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High Hurricane Tides
Are here in Galveston bay.
Ivan must be pushing mucho aqua. Tides have been 1 -2 ft higher than normal since yesterday. The highest Ive seen it here in the marina is 5 foot above the docks. And that was a cat 1. With a 5 we would expect 11-12 foot above the docks. And here comes Jene next week. Wonder when one's going to fire up in the Gulf? Usually its in October but.....this years seems pretty intense and early. Joe |
And that was a cat 1. With a 5 we would expect 11-12 foot above the
docks. Move to a marina with floating piers. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Move to a marina with floating piers.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" A message from the Pier Master!! When it comes to docks...see Loco! CM |
,Yeah, Lulu! Most marinas with floating DOCKS, have pilings more than
12 feet above mean high water. Sure they do! You tell 'em! You not only know nothing about boats, we now know you know nothing about piers, docks, pilings, marinas, tides... The list keeps growing.. I don't know the reason for the attempted slam Bud but most of the marinas I've seen allow for MORE than 15 foot tides. When Isabel hit the Chesapeake last summer I moved my boat to a marina that has floating piers. The pilings before the storm were approx 15 feet above the pier. During the height of the storm they were a foot above the pier. So before you tell someone they know nothing check into the topic first hand. You are aparently the fool here who knows nothing about boats or floating docks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
Yeah, at LOW tide, LuLu!!! Where I keep my boat the pilings are about
15 feet above Low tide, too. But then, we have about a 6 foot tide here. It's about the same at every Marina in my area.. Get lost. Your backpeddeling. Since tides are different you should have skipped trying to slam me. Floating marinas work in a storm surge. Period. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
wrote in message ... Yeah, at LOW tide, LuLu!!! Where I keep my boat the pilings are about 15 feet above Low tide, too. But then, we have about a 6 foot tide here. It's about the same at every Marina in my area. How often do you get hit by hurricanes? Regards Donal -- |
So, your position is that docks have never floated up and off of their
pilings during a storm surge? That's odd, because Insurance companies all know this, even though many of their employees have never set foot on a dock, or sailed. Apparently even filing clerks at Allstate know more about boats than you. Hey dimwit I never said never. A few years ago one marina near Baltimore did float over the pilings during a surge. Because it happens to one does not mean it will happen to all. Keep making the smart comments if that makes you feel like a big man. Doesn't prove you know anything however. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
wrote So, your position is that docks have never floated up and off of their pilings during a storm surge? Did Loco write that. I seem to have missed that post. Scotty |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:13:07 +0100, "Donal" wrote: wrote in message .. . Yeah, at LOW tide, LuLu!!! Where I keep my boat the pilings are about 15 feet above Low tide, too. But then, we have about a 6 foot tide here. It's about the same at every Marina in my area. How often do you get hit by hurricanes? Every few years. I must admit that I thought that you were not in the hurricane zone. Aren't you somewhere around NY? Our pilings are about 21 ft above low water. Our HW can be 16 feet above LWS, so you have more scope built in. Regards Donal -- |
"Joe" wrote in message om... (SAIL LOCO) wrote in message ... And that was a cat 1. With a 5 we would expect 11-12 foot above the docks. Move to a marina with floating piers. NO. 9 reasons why 1 I would have to walk down most likely a long pier to get to deep enough water for my boat. Now I park my car and truck 25 feet from the boat 2 I would have to pay for electricity. Here it is included with my slip 3 I would have to leave the best view on the lake. Ask Jim Cate he knows I have an awesome view of the lake and sunsets. 4 I would not have room on the dock for my swimming pool, picnic tables, lawn furnature, two large dock boxes, dog cage, ect..... Uh ...Oh! Trailer trash is an American term, so I don't really know what it means. 5 I have lived in a marina with floating docks and I worried about the whole marina floating above the pilons and destroying everyones boats. 6 I have a nice yard, palm trees, aloe plants, cactus, ect. As I said, I don't know what "trailer trash" really means. 7 here I have a 10X20 tent over my picnic table just in front of the boat. I'm really confused. Why does the term "trailer trash" keep coming to mind? 8 it only floods one or twice a year so its not that big of a deal. I'm beginning to understand ..... 9 here Im right next to a cut between 2 lakes and I can castnet enough Shrimp for dinner in about 30 min anyday. Some East European assylum seekers(economic refugees!) catch most of their food in a local lake. They aren't called trailer trash, ... they are called gypsies. Besides a good flood cleans the place up a bit, all the ants get washed out and the dumb ass powerboaters leave some much gear adrift you find some nice stuff floating by. At last! I think I understand. Regards Donal -- Joe S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:24:32 +0100, "Donal" wrote: Our pilings are about 21 ft above low water. Our HW can be 16 feet above LWS, so you have more scope built in. So if there was a storm surge that cause the water to rise 9 feet above normal high tide, what would happen? Thank you. Last year we had a F9 which didn't cause a problem in the marinas. AFAIK, the biggest storm that has hit us was in 1989. IIRC, only one marina had a pontoon float free of it's pilings. Regards Donal -- |
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Did Loco write that. I seem to have missed that post. Scotty It's not at all unusual for you to miss something. True, so, could you show me where Loco wrote that? Scotty |
I heard on the news that storm surge could be as high as 15 or 18
feet. Y0W! Scotty |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... (SAIL LOCO) wrote in message ... And that was a cat 1. With a 5 we would expect 11-12 foot above the docks. Move to a marina with floating piers. NO. 9 reasons why 1 I would have to walk down most likely a long pier to get to deep enough water for my boat. Now I park my car and truck 25 feet from the boat 2 I would have to pay for electricity. Here it is included with my slip 3 I would have to leave the best view on the lake. Ask Jim Cate he knows I have an awesome view of the lake and sunsets. 4 I would not have room on the dock for my swimming pool, picnic tables, lawn furnature, two large dock boxes, dog cage, ect..... Uh ...Oh! Trailer trash is an American term, so I don't really know what it means. Jelious......why is that popping in my mind 5 I have lived in a marina with floating docks and I worried about the whole marina floating above the pilons and destroying everyones boats. 6 I have a nice yard, palm trees, aloe plants, cactus, ect. As I said, I don't know what "trailer trash" really means. Yes .........but we know what jelious means. 7 here I have a 10X20 tent over my picnic table just in front of the boat. I'm really confused. Why does the term "trailer trash" keep coming to mind? Because your so jelious you try to de-grade a good thing that you can not obtain? Serious. The tent is nice. like the one that windshield repair men use. Its great with the steady breeze. 8 it only floods one or twice a year so its not that big of a deal. I'm beginning to understand ..... 9 here Im right next to a cut between 2 lakes and I can castnet enough Shrimp for dinner in about 30 min anyday. Some East European assylum seekers(economic refugees!) catch most of their food in a local lake. They aren't called trailer trash, ... they are called gypsies. Id rather hang with a group of skilled Gypsies than a gaggle of ****** snobs. Pip pip. Living off the sea or land is a skill and privelege we value here in Texas. It's cool if they enjoy what they are eating. I'd rather catch it fresh coming out of the lakes than pay some shrimper 6 USD a pound for it. But I understand how such actions are frowned upon by snobbish irish fox hunting british ******s that need 200 foxhounds, 50 horses, horns, and a tea party to kill anything. At least the Gypsies eat and use what they kill. Besides a good flood cleans the place up a bit, all the ants get washed out and the dumb ass powerboaters leave some much gear adrift you find some nice stuff floating by. At last! I think I understand. Keep trying if it dont hurt your head to much Lanod. Last hurricane that came thru I saved several whole dock boxes that the powerboaters here failed to secure. I tied them of and kept them from floating out to sea. Not one thank you, just a dirty looks from a snob asshole that would of rather filed an inflated insurance claim. Now I just shoot holes in them before they bump into my hull Joe Regards Donal -- Joe S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "Trains are a winter sport" |
"Joe" wrote in message om... Last hurricane that came thru I saved several whole dock boxes that the powerboaters here failed to secure. I tied them of and kept them from floating out to sea. Wel done! I wish that we had people like you here. Not one thank you, just a dirty looks from a snob asshole that would of rather filed an inflated insurance claim. That's America for you! Over here, you would have been compensated for your efforts. Most people on my pontoon would have offered you the use of a Rubenesque female for at least 45 minutes. Regards Donal -- |
You don't? Most people who are around marinas when there are problems look
out for each others boats... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message om... Last hurricane that came thru I saved several whole dock boxes that the powerboaters here failed to secure. I tied them of and kept them from floating out to sea. Wel done! I wish that we had people like you here. Not one thank you, just a dirty looks from a snob asshole that would of rather filed an inflated insurance claim. That's America for you! Over here, you would have been compensated for your efforts. Most people on my pontoon would have offered you the use of a Rubenesque female for at least 45 minutes. Regards Donal -- |
Donal wrote:
... Most people on my pontoon would have offered you the use of a Rubenesque female for at least 45 minutes. I don't think Joe would have any use for one for more than about 4 minutes, much less 45. As for Rubenesque, think positive. That's a lot better than Daliesque. DSK |
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om... Last hurricane that came thru I saved several whole dock boxes that the powerboaters here failed to secure. I tied them of and kept them from floating out to sea. Wel done! I wish that we had people like you here. Not one thank you, just a dirty looks from a snob asshole that would of rather filed an inflated insurance claim. That's America for you! Over here, you would have been compensated for your efforts. Im talking about the millionaire cigar boat dickheads. One guy in the next slip over had a cabin cruiser and I tended his lines while he was out of town. He insisted on giving me a 100 bucks. I did not want to take it but he said he would throw it in the water if I did not. Was a nice dinner for Terry and I. Joe Most people on my pontoon would have offered you the use of a Rubenesque female for at least 45 minutes. Regards Donal -- |
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Joe wrote: One guy in the next slip over had a cabin cruiser and I tended his lines while he was out of town. He insisted on giving me a 100 bucks. I did not want to take it but he said he would throw it in the water if I did not. Was a nice dinner for Terry and I. Joe Joe, just so you know... the sentence fragment is also grammatically incorrect. It should read "Terry and me" not "Terry and I." -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
"Donal" wrote
..... Most people on my pontoon would have offered you the use of a Rubenesque female for at least 45 minutes. And just what can get done in 45 minutes? Why that's barely to do the dishes and laundry .... (c: |
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So, you believe that only secretaries and office assistants should
be able to write correctly? Got it. That's pretty low brow Joe. I was just trying to give you the benefit of my education. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message m... (Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ... In article , Joe wrote: One guy in the next slip over had a cabin cruiser and I tended his lines while he was out of town. He insisted on giving me a 100 bucks. I did not want to take it but he said he would throw it in the water if I did not. Was a nice dinner for Terry and I. Joe Joe, just so you know... the sentence fragment is also grammatically incorrect. It should read "Terry and me" not "Terry and I." Why thank you Jon, BTW we are looking for a new secretary....Opps I mean admin assistant. Do you make coffee? Will you pick up dry cleaning, empty the waste baskets?. can you type 35 WPM..If so... send me a resume we pay 3.25 an hour. Joe |
"Donal" wrote in message ...
wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 23:24:32 +0100, "Donal" wrote: Our pilings are about 21 ft above low water. Our HW can be 16 feet above LWS, so you have more scope built in. So if there was a storm surge that cause the water to rise 9 feet above normal high tide, what would happen? Thank you. Last year we had a F9 which didn't cause a problem in the marinas. AFAIK, the biggest storm that has hit us was in 1989. IIRC, only one marina had a pontoon float free of it's pilings. Regards Donal -- Here in Apalachee bay (NE corner of Gulf of Mexico), predicted storm surges for a category 4 hurricane is over 20 feet. In the 1800s there was apparently at least one hurricane here with such a surge. I have read there are indications of storm surges as high as 25 feet before 1600. A category 5 could easily produce a surge in excess of 25' due to the very shallow water here. Oddly, there are many houses built on the ground and even many mobile homes that have been here for 40 years. This just means that the surge area is limited and large surges do not occur often. However, even the march 1993 Storm of the Century caused a 15' surge at Steinhatchee and that was only about a category 2 level. |
wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:51:00 +0100, "Donal" wrote: Our pilings are about 21 ft above low water. Our HW can be 16 feet above LWS, so you have more scope built in. So, at high tide, you have pilings that are 21minus16 feet above the surface. That sounds like 5 feet above the surface to me. Top marks! So if there was a storm surge that cause the water to rise 9 feet above normal high tide, what would happen? Thank you. Let's see now... Your pilings are 5 feet above the surface of the water at high tide, and a storm surge makes the tide an extra 9 feet above that. Hmmmm... Emmmm ... we don't get storm surges like that. Last year we had a F9 which didn't cause a problem in the marinas. Forget wind, how high was the storm surge. This thread is not about the Beaufort scale. AFAIK, the biggest storm that has hit us was in 1989. IIRC, only one marina had a pontoon float free of it's pilings. Then your storm surges must generally be less than 5 feet for the most part. You are a genius! Otherwise your docks would all rise over their pilings and take off. Correct. You have confirmed that in your area, pilings are not equipped to deal with more than a 5 or 6 foot storm surge. Yes. Thanks for confirming that Loco is a lubber. Idiot! How do you think that the degree of storm surge in my locality has any affect on Loco's abilities as a seaman? I think that you have just confirmed that you are a bit stupid. Please feel free to prove me wrong by demonstrating how the Portsmouth "storm surge" is related to Loco's abilities. Regards Donal -- |
"Donal" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:51:00 +0100, "Donal" wrote: Our pilings are about 21 ft above low water. Our HW can be 16 feet above LWS, so you have more scope built in. So, at high tide, you have pilings that are 21minus16 feet above the surface. That sounds like 5 feet above the surface to me. Top marks! So if there was a storm surge that cause the water to rise 9 feet above normal high tide, what would happen? Thank you. Let's see now... Your pilings are 5 feet above the surface of the water at high tide, and a storm surge makes the tide an extra 9 feet above that. Hmmmm... Emmmm ... we don't get storm surges like that. Last year we had a F9 which didn't cause a problem in the marinas. Forget wind, how high was the storm surge. This thread is not about the Beaufort scale. AFAIK, the biggest storm that has hit us was in 1989. IIRC, only one marina had a pontoon float free of it's pilings. Then your storm surges must generally be less than 5 feet for the most part. You are a genius! Otherwise your docks would all rise over their pilings and take off. Correct. You have confirmed that in your area, pilings are not equipped to deal with more than a 5 or 6 foot storm surge. Yes. Thanks for confirming that Loco is a lubber. Idiot! How do you think that the degree of storm surge in my locality has any affect on Loco's abilities as a seaman? I think that you have just confirmed that you are a bit stupid. Please feel free to prove me wrong by demonstrating how the Portsmouth "storm surge" is related to Loco's abilities. Regards Donal -- Watch it Donal, BB is going to start complaining to your ISP. John Cairns |
"John Cairns" wrote in message m... Watch it Donal, BB is going to start complaining to your ISP. John Cairns heh heh, You might be right! If my ISP forwards any complaints to me, then I'll report them to the group. Sadly, I suspect that BB will mark his complaints "Confidential". sigh Regards Dona-- |
wrote in message ... On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:26:45 +0100, "Donal" wrote: Donald is a complete dope. Is he dumber than you? Regards Donal -- |
Perhaps there should be a permit required to use the Internet. And
fines for those who mispeel words. Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... So, you believe that only secretaries and office assistants should be able to write correctly? Got it. Your wrong Jonboy, I think everyone should be able to write correctly. That's pretty low brow Joe. Hey I admit I'm not the best speller, and I'm lousy at proper grammer. Thats why I hire a secretary to write letters when the grammer and correct spelling is important. Id rather focus on other skills. I was just trying to give you the benefit of my education. Thats mighty nice of you there Jonboy. I will try to do better. Please keep up the grammer Nazi role to motivate I. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message m... (Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ... In article , Joe wrote: One guy in the next slip over had a cabin cruiser and I tended his lines while he was out of town. He insisted on giving me a 100 bucks. I did not want to take it but he said he would throw it in the water if I did not. Was a nice dinner for Terry and I. Joe Joe, just so you know... the sentence fragment is also grammatically incorrect. It should read "Terry and me" not "Terry and I." Why thank you Jon, BTW we are looking for a new secretary....Opps I mean admin assistant. Do you make coffee? Will you pick up dry cleaning, empty the waste baskets?. can you type 35 WPM..If so... send me a resume we pay 3.25 an hour. Joe |
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Scott Vernon wrote: Perhaps there should be a permit required to use the Internet. And fines for those who mispeel words. I would go fer tat. -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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