In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
The only cars that have
Kerry bumper stickers are battered little old economy cars..

That fits in with the bunch of protesters that were in N.Y. The mob looked
like a bunch of 60s era unemployed dirtballs all over again.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Yeah, all several 100 thousand of them.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

you may be interested to know this
i have been involved in a number of projects up and down the hudson river
and taking the trian just about everyday.

during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed at
the major train stops (day and night)
the purpose being two fold (my understanding)
first to scare off any terrorists (!)
second to pluck roving gangs of protesters off the trains before they
reached penn station.


gf.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
The only cars that have
Kerry bumper stickers are battered little old economy cars..

That fits in with the bunch of protesters that were in N.Y. The mob
looked
like a bunch of 60s era unemployed dirtballs all over again.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Yeah, all several 100 thousand of them.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article , gonefishiing wrote:
you may be interested to know this
i have been involved in a number of projects up and down the hudson river
and taking the trian just about everyday.

during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed at
the major train stops (day and night)
the purpose being two fold (my understanding)
first to scare off any terrorists (!)

A good thing, assuming they would know a terrorist when they saw one,
which is doubtful.

second to pluck roving gangs of protesters off the trains before they
reached penn station.

Not a good thing...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"gonefishiing" wrote.

during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed at
the major train stops (day and night) ....
.... to pluck ... protesters off the trains .....

IIRC Hitlers Brown Shirts used to do the same thing.

"gonefishiing" wrote.
during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed at
the major train stops (day and night) ....
.... to pluck ... protesters off the trains .....


Vito wrote:
IIRC Hitlers Brown Shirts used to do the same thing.


That's OK by me, as long as the Bush-Cheney goons don't start using
Mussolini's tactic... you know with the castor oil...

BTW does anybody else find it ominous that President Bush is buddying up
to the Russians and talking admiringly about their system? Can't he at
least wait until after the (cough) election?


"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear"
--Harry S. Truman

In article ,
DSK wrote:
"gonefishiing" wrote.
during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed at
the major train stops (day and night) ....
.... to pluck ... protesters off the trains .....


Vito wrote:
IIRC Hitlers Brown Shirts used to do the same thing.


That's OK by me, as long as the Bush-Cheney goons don't start using
Mussolini's tactic... you know with the castor oil...

BTW does anybody else find it ominous that President Bush is buddying up
to the Russians and talking admiringly about their system? Can't he at
least wait until after the (cough) election?


"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear"
--Harry S. Truman

I was listening to NPR last night. Daniel Shore was giving his
commentary, but I tuned in about 1/2 way through. He was talking about
restricting civil liberties, the president asking the people to put up
with several moderately heavy-handed techniques to combat domestic
terrorism, etc. I was thinking that this was a bit much even for
Shore, even though he is quite liberal. I thought he was a bit over
the top, since Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft hadn't really gone that far (yet).

Then, I realized he was talking about Putin. Scary.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Daniel Shore liberal?
NPR is about the most balanced journalism around
except in the mornings here in NYC when they broadcast that idiot (talbit
smiley something or other) from WNYC with his racist bull****.

in fact about a year ago (or 2............my mind wonders) they produced a
full page ad in the NY times regarding the israeli and palestinian mess.
the israelis responded with force
the palistinians were silent.
interesting.

gf.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DSK wrote:
"gonefishiing" wrote.
during the republican convention here in NY, the police were stationed
at
the major train stops (day and night) ....
.... to pluck ... protesters off the trains .....


Vito wrote:
IIRC Hitlers Brown Shirts used to do the same thing.


That's OK by me, as long as the Bush-Cheney goons don't start using
Mussolini's tactic... you know with the castor oil...

BTW does anybody else find it ominous that President Bush is buddying up
to the Russians and talking admiringly about their system? Can't he at
least wait until after the (cough) election?


"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear"
--Harry S. Truman

I was listening to NPR last night. Daniel Shore was giving his
commentary, but I tuned in about 1/2 way through. He was talking about
restricting civil liberties, the president asking the people to put up
with several moderately heavy-handed techniques to combat domestic
terrorism, etc. I was thinking that this was a bit much even for
Shore, even though he is quite liberal. I thought he was a bit over
the top, since Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft hadn't really gone that far (yet).

Then, I realized he was talking about Putin. Scary.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article , gonefishiing wrote:
Daniel Shore liberal?
NPR is about the most balanced journalism around

I was trying to offer an olive branch to the right-wing wackos.

except in the mornings here in NYC when they broadcast that idiot (talbit
smiley something or other) from WNYC with his racist bull****.

Yeah, he's not worth listening to.

in fact about a year ago (or 2............my mind wonders) they produced a
full page ad in the NY times regarding the israeli and palestinian mess.
the israelis responded with force
the palistinians were silent.
interesting.

Who is "they?"

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."