Michael wrote:
With the valiant exceptions of a few, notably Bart Senior, Thom and Katy
(and a few others so don't feel slighted I just picked on those of us who
have been around the longest) the majority of .asa has denigrated into a
pale and for the most part useless comparison of it's glory days.

Which "glory days" were those?

... The
sailing content is vastly overshadowed by insipid political commentary which
in itself is of no merit.

Actually there is more sailing content in this discussion group than
most others I've sampled.

.... Bart does a good job of holding his finger in
the dike

Not what I'd call a good choice of words there.


....It takes more than
quantity to be a leader especially in a free society

Yes, it does.


... For the majority of the spam propaganda posts
it's just Neal wannabes. He knew when to push a button or ring chimes or
zing in a barbed conversation starting content but the majority of it was
always about sailing.

Which ones were those? The ones where he bragged about imaginary
voyages, pontificated on Jaxxian laws of physics applied to sailing, or
the ones where he displayed total ignorance about common sailing
equipment & it's employment (for example, jib sheets).



... And you ain't Neal.

Thank goodness.

DSK

Doug,

The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle down
and re-develop a Style.

I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

Ole Thom

Thom Stewart wrote:
The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

??? I remember the Mickey Mouse theme song too, but I wish I didn't.
There are lots of better things to expend brain cells on.



The group is pretty much a creation of his

???

I beg to differ. This newsgroup was around before the Crapton found it,
and it was much the same as it is now... sailing discussion on a wide
range of topics and lots of banter & blather.



Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle down
and re-develop a Style.

I hope that after the November elections, whoever wins, the divisive
spirit will subside. I don't call other people traitors and do not
appreciate being called on myself.

It looks to me like some people mistake the insults & propaganda for the
issues, and for them, it will never subside. But maybe, they'll leave
the rest of us alone.



I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Agreed.



Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

I dunno, this group is my favorite example of positivistic anarchy. OTOH
one of the things that keep it that way is that nobody here can do
anybody else any real harm, so those with malevolent intent can only
seethe & stew.

It would be nice to have Tadpole back more often, but OTOH maybe you
should appreciate Scout & Wally, both relative newcomers with something
to contribute... sense of humor too.

My advice is to ignore Boobsie more, and start a few sailing threads of
your own. That discussion of keels you got going some time ago was
great... encore!


Fresh Breezes- Doug King

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

True, but we also remember Hitler and Stalin.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Not really. Several of us were here long before he showed up.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

If we nominated you for bartender, could we trust you not to drink the
profits?
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I want the real Gilligan back.....
and the monkeys....
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Doug,

The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle down
and re-develop a Style.

I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

Ole Thom

katysails wrote:
I want the real Gilligan back.....
and the monkeys....

I've often wondered where he went. I guess his work here was done.

DSK

ASA may be dead, but Gilligan's not!

I've been exceptionally busy for almost the last two years, but for you dear
Katy, I'll return with all the monkeys too. I miss all my ASA friends and
fell out of touch with a few. This week I'm off to exude my manliness by
hunting North American big game with archery equipment at extreme altitudes!
In the fresh snow! Manly!! After that I'll take a rest by climbing some
large peak.

I've even been out sailing! Unbelievable - especially considering the
drought and my sailing abilities!

So fret not Katy, Gilligan's here and I'm wearing styrofoam shoes. Get the
Crisco ready!

Gilligan


"katysails" wrote in message
news
I want the real Gilligan back.....
and the monkeys....
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Doug,

The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle down
and re-develop a Style.

I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

Ole Thom

Prove ot...email me using the secret code words.....
"Gilligan" wrote in message
nk.net...
ASA may be dead, but Gilligan's not!

I've been exceptionally busy for almost the last two years, but for you
dear
Katy, I'll return with all the monkeys too. I miss all my ASA friends and
fell out of touch with a few. This week I'm off to exude my manliness by
hunting North American big game with archery equipment at extreme
altitudes!
In the fresh snow! Manly!! After that I'll take a rest by climbing some
large peak.

I've even been out sailing! Unbelievable - especially considering the
drought and my sailing abilities!

So fret not Katy, Gilligan's here and I'm wearing styrofoam shoes. Get the
Crisco ready!

Gilligan


"katysails" wrote in message
news
I want the real Gilligan back.....
and the monkeys....
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Doug,

The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your
lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle down
and re-develop a Style.

I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a
Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

Ole Thom

It's really me. Don't you remember that deep fryer you won on Queen for a
Day?

Gilligan

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Prove ot...email me using the secret code words.....
"Gilligan" wrote in message
nk.net...
ASA may be dead, but Gilligan's not!

I've been exceptionally busy for almost the last two years, but for you
dear
Katy, I'll return with all the monkeys too. I miss all my ASA friends
and
fell out of touch with a few. This week I'm off to exude my manliness by
hunting North American big game with archery equipment at extreme
altitudes!
In the fresh snow! Manly!! After that I'll take a rest by climbing some
large peak.

I've even been out sailing! Unbelievable - especially considering the
drought and my sailing abilities!

So fret not Katy, Gilligan's here and I'm wearing styrofoam shoes. Get
the
Crisco ready!

Gilligan


"katysails" wrote in message
news
I want the real Gilligan back.....
and the monkeys....
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Doug,

The Crapton (Neal) was all those thing you've said BUT by God you
remembered them.

The group is pretty much a creation of his and without him we' re
struggling for a personality.

Michael seem to like Bart's way, I've kind of been following your
lead.
Nutsy gets to much, "I am" into his style. We are in a state of
change
right now. I'm hoping that after the Nov elections we will settle
down
and re-develop a Style.

I have great faith in the un-monitored formate and a loose
leadership,
with a sense of humor is needed.

Let's face it, we are a group of sailors in a Bull Session as in a
Bar.
What we need is a Bartender as a leader

Ole Thom

Although the newsgroup's hanging on the ropes
Do not attempt revival with false hopes!

Gilligan wrote:

ASA may be dead, but Gilligan's not!

I've been exceptionally busy for almost the last two years, but for you dear
Katy, I'll return with all the monkeys too.

--
Flying Tadpole

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