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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Thom, did you see the graph Pony posted? It backs up my statement 98%. Except for the part where Scotty claimed 25 knots SUSTAINED, LIAR then admitted he lied a "wee bit." $1,000 says I didn't. By his OWN ADMISSION, winds were 18 knots or 25% less!!! More lies. |
Except for the part where Scotty claimed 25 knots SUSTAINED,
LIAR Here's Scotty Potti's POST...from the idiot's own keyboard, folks! and.....I had a great time. Sunday was blowing like 25 sustained, all day. Came out of the anchorage with 1/2 the genny out, main still tied down, got up to 6kts instantly. left the sails like this the whole day, never got below 5 kts. Nice, wet, fun ride. ;)))))))) Scotty, the liar, exposed AGAIN. RB |
notice the word, ''like'' in my post, and not in yours?
See the word ''wee'' anywhere? you're busted, again. SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Except for the part where Scotty claimed 25 knots SUSTAINED, LIAR Here's Scotty Potti's POST...from the idiot's own keyboard, folks! and.....I had a great time. Sunday was blowing like 25 sustained, all day. Came out of the anchorage with 1/2 the genny out, main still tied down, got up to 6kts instantly. left the sails like this the whole day, never got below 5 kts. Nice, wet, fun ride. ;)))))))) Scotty, the liar, exposed AGAIN. RB |
A piece of weather advice that's always proven true is "All weather is local."
Regardless of what the weather is at one place, a few miles away the wind can be stronger or weaker. What one person gets as a gust, may hold for a longer period just around the corner. Many is the time I've had strong winds, 25+ outside the harbor, while those inside said it was flat. In Scotty's case, estimating 25 when it was 18 to 22 with gusts to 25 isn't too bad. Especially when you consider there could have been a current of 2 to 3 knots that could effectively increase the apparent wind. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... A reduction of a litle over 25% Now tell us of what the hell value that figure is to a sailor? Thom, Scotty lied, then claimed he only lied "a wee bit." 25% is NOT a wee bit. He's busted and you really should stop defending him. It's embarassing! RB |
notice the word, ''like'' in my post, and not in yours?
Oh, so now 18 knots is like 25? I see!!!! I guess you're a LOT like an idiot. Bwahahahahaha! RB |
See the word ''wee'' anywhere?
you're busted, again. Oh, so 25% is a "bit" of difference? Oh, okay!!! RB |
In Scotty's case, estimating 25 when it was 18 to 22 with gusts to 25 isn't too
bad. Especially when you consider there could have been a current of 2 to 3 knots that could effectively increase the apparent wind. Scotty reported 25 knots SUSTAINED. The real report for his area shows 25% less. He never mentioned currents and the pinhead has no instruments. Some trip report. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... notice the word, ''like'' in my post, and not in yours? Oh, so now 18 knots is like 25? I see!!!! I guess you're a LOT like an idiot. Bwahahahahaha! Fatherhood hasn't tempered your aggression. Are you surprised that some of us don't believe that the little one is actually your's? Regards Donal -- |
Most of us believe that you have a little one, though! A very little one.
My guess is that he had it removed and has a lot of Rupaul pix in his room. RB |
Nutsy,
OK Salty, to stamp Scotts statement as a serious lie, why don't you explain the differences in Wind and Sea conditions between 18 and 25 knots. Just what you'd do to adjust your boat to the difference? Old Thom |
OK Salty, to stamp Scotts statement as a serious lie,
In only said it was a "lie" which it was. RB |
Here ya go, Tom.
http://www.r-p-r.co.uk/beaufort.htm Scotty claimed Force 6 sustained which would have meant larger gusts. Never happened, except very briefly. NOT sustained. Scotty MIGHT have seen force 4. Maybe. RB |
Yeah Nutsy,
Sure looks like you are both talking about Beaufort 5 (18 to 24) on my Dwyer Wind Scale. Now, if you are using Sea condition to sail by, Tell me how you can tell the difference of a Force 6 white cap with a Force 5 white cap within 3 to 4 knots without a lie as you call it? AND; This whole post begs to question the ability of the vessels to handle these condition or the ability of the sailors on the helm. Siedlemann over C&C or Nutsy over Potti? Damn, Wish the new Harkens Furler would get here so I can sail rather than troll :^) Ole Thom |
Tell
me how you can tell the difference of a Force 6 white cap with a Force 5 white cap within 3 to 4 knots without a lie as you call it? Tom, you miss the point. If Scotty didn't know the real windspeed, why guess? He didn't estimate or backpedal until he was caught, then he claimed he had no instruments. Still worse, I know how differently my boat behaves in 25 knots vs. 18. I guess you're also saying that Scotty doesn't. And that wouldn't surprise me at all. RB |
Damn, Wish the new Harkens Furler would get here so I can sail rather
than troll :^) Cheer up. Suzanne and I went to the club today, but she's still pretty weak. It'll be a few more days before we can sail. Thomas seemed to enjoy the fresh air all the same and the owner of the club bought him some nice clothes. I hope to go for a sail on Monday. RB |
This whole post begs to question the ability of the vessels to
handle these condition or the ability of the sailors on the helm. Siedlemann over C&C or Nutsy over Potti? As I pointed out, I can certainly ID 25 knots over 18. And even Potti's crappy Siedlemann can handle 25 knots. RB |
wrote in message ... Most of us believe that you have a little one, though! A very little one. Bill is short for Willy!! dammit, I'm good Regards Donal -- |
"Jeff Morris" wrote
In Scotty's case, estimating 25 when it was 18 to 22 with gusts to 25 isn't too bad. Thanks Jeff, I know you and the rest of the sailors here realize that , without wind instruments, we will generally err on the plus side of wind strength. Even though Ponys' graph showed that I was damn close, I see no need to justify myself to a non-sailor like bob. Anyway, the point was that it was windy, and I had a great sail. Scotty |
You think Hunters are better than Benetoes?
S wrote Bear in mind that Donald also thinks Beneteaus are "good" BB |
You think Hunters are better than Benetoes?
Over the last few years Hunter has done much to improve fit and finish. Compare and see, the Hunters are now clearly better than the Beneteaus in quality. RB |
we will generally err on the plus side of
wind strength. No, only YOU err on the plus side. Liar, liar! RB |
You think Hunters are better than Benetoes?
S I wouldn't own either. They are the botomm of the barrel Bill, I actually think Hunter is doing much better with quality these days, but you're right about Beneteau. They were among the first boats I was warned about. Donal's boat might be a better boat as it was built elsewhere. RB |
I imagine Yugos are better than they were a few years ago, as well. The
question is, "Better than what?" Better than the current crop from Beneteau and on par with what I saw from Catalina and Bavaria Yachts. The Hunter's like Horvath's were built badly, no doubt about it, but Hunter seems to have cleaned up their act somewhat. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I imagine Yugos are better than they were a few years ago, as well. The question is, "Better than what?" Better than the current crop from Beneteau and on par with what I saw from Catalina and Bavaria Yachts. The Hunter's like Horvath's were built badly, no doubt about it, but Hunter seems to have cleaned up their act somewhat. I wonder if young Thomas will agree with his dad? Will Thomas feel that his father's old "stepping stone" gives him any street cred? I can just picture the scene (in a few years): Thomas: "That's my dad's boat!" Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa. It's an old wreck. It's only a stepping stone" Thomas: "My daddy says that it is better than a new Hunter.! Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa." .......[Thomas runs home in tears] Regards Donalfish -- |
Bavaria Yachts, Nutsy?
Have you walked thru one of them without cracking you head? There is more headroom in most American 22 footers, than in their 35. Nutsy, you have taste for S--t Ole Thom |
Have you walked thru one of them without cracking you head? There is
more headroom in most American 22 footers, than in their 35. Nutsy, you have taste for S--t You're off topic again, Tom. We were talking build quality, not quantity or boats "we like. I don't recall bumping my head on the 38 below. RB |
"Donal" wrote in message ... Will Thomas feel that his father's old "stepping stone" gives him any street cred? I can just picture the scene (in a few years): Thomas: "That's my dad's boat!" Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa. It's an old wreck. It's only a stepping stone" Thomas: "My daddy says that it is better than a new Hunter.! Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa." ......[Thomas runs home in tears] At last!! I've reduced Bob to silence! . Scotty, take note! Regards Donal -- |
"Donal" wrote ... Will Thomas feel that his father's old "stepping stone" gives him any street cred? I can just picture the scene (in a few years): Thomas: "That's my dad's boat!" Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa. It's an old wreck. It's only a stepping stone" Thomas: "My daddy says that it is better than a new Hunter.! Schoolfriends: "Bwahahahaaa." ......[Thomas runs home in tears] At last!! I've reduced Bob to silence! . Scotty, take note! My eternal gratefulness, oh wise master. Scotty |
At last!!
I've reduced Bob to silence! Sorry, Donal. I was sailing most of the day aboard a friend's J29. Now, what was that? RB |
My eternal gratefulness, oh wise master.
Scotty Potti will crawl up anyone's butt, it would appear. He should give Horvath a call. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... At last!! I've reduced Bob to silence! Sorry, Donal. I was sailing most of the day aboard a friend's J29. Now, what was that? Speak up, please! I can barely hear you. BTW, you failed to notice that there was TWO days between my posts. So your pathetic excuse is exposed.... what a fraud! Regards Donal -- |
BTW, you failed to notice that there was TWO days between my posts.
That's because we had Thomas out on the Tayana. Today I was out again, this time setting up a new radar head. I won't sail again until Friday. Not bad considering we have a newborn, but I'm happy to get him aboard. Pics to come shortly! RB |
Can't you just enjoy the piece and quiet and let it be?
Scotty "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... At last!! I've reduced Bob to silence! Sorry, Donal. I was sailing most of the day aboard a friend's J29. Now, what was that? Speak up, please! I can barely hear you. BTW, you failed to notice that there was TWO days between my posts. So your pathetic excuse is exposed.... what a fraud! Regards Donal -- |
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