On 7 Sep 2004 11:36:10 -0500, Dave wrote this crap:

On 30 Aug 2004 17:04:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how?

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the bucket.


What a poor design.




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On 7 Sep 2004 13:51:12 -0500, Dave wrote this crap:

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 17:37:11 GMT, felton said:

Put one in. Don't you have a drain opening in the low point of your
ice box? My last boat had a small electric pump that I could use to
empty the standing water in the icebox. My current boat has a hand
operated pump that sort of resembles a bicycle pump.

Yes, it does have a drain opening, with a valve to open, but the valve leads
to just a section of flexible pipe I have to lead to the bucket. I'll
probably end up installing a hand operated pump and lead the hose to the
sink. Certainly not a major problem, but a regular annoyance.


Put in a longer hose, and run it to a through-hull fitting that will
dump it outside.




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In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 7 Sep 2004 11:36:10 -0500, Dave wrote this crap:

On 30 Aug 2004 17:04:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

Now, what aspect of
your boat's performance and ergonomics would you change and how?

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the bucket.


What a poor design.

Horass knows all about poor design! He owns a hunter!
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

On 7 Sep 2004 21:28:10 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:50:09 -0400, Horvath said:

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the bucket.


What a poor design.

Actually, most of the Camper and Nicholson designs, including this one (the
smallest they ever designed, I believe) are pretty well-regarded. A matter
of design priorities. My last boat had a small icebox with a nice drain to a
thru-hull. Never occurred to me that that wasn't almost universal. What it
didn't have is the capacity for as much food and beer as I'd ever need to
store, and a nice rack to hold a block of ice near the top of the box above
the food and drink. Not sure the trade-off is the best one, but it was a
valid design choice.

You know for a couple of grand or so you could install refrigeration
and the related electrical improvements and eliminate that drippy old
ice. Or you could spend the $15 and install a small pump. Most
sailors go the refrigeration route

So your ice isn't sitting IN the water?

Scotty

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 19:50:09 -0400, Horvath
said:

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The
CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time
first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the
bucket.


What a poor design.

Actually, most of the Camper and Nicholson designs, including this
one (the
smallest they ever designed, I believe) are pretty well-regarded. A
matter
of design priorities. My last boat had a small icebox with a nice
drain to a
thru-hull. Never occurred to me that that wasn't almost universal.
What it
didn't have is the capacity for as much food and beer as I'd ever
need to
store, and a nice rack to hold a block of ice near the top of the
box above
the food and drink. Not sure the trade-off is the best one, but it
was a
valid design choice.

On 7 Sep 2004 17:04:18 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

A pump for emptying the water that collects in the icebox. The CS27 has a
huge icebox, but after a few days I have to spend a lot of time first
draining the water into a small bucket and then emptying the bucket.


What a poor design.

Horass knows all about poor design! He owns a hunter!


I don't have to pump out the cooler.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I'd opt for eliptical foils and a carbon spar.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

I'd opt for eliptical foils and a carbon spar.


You should opt for a brain and sex with a woman without using your debit card.

RB

Dork.

"Bobsprit" wrote


I'd opt for a brain and sex with a man without using my debit card.

RB

He can't help it. He's a looser that's disgusted with his lot in life. He'd
opt for a better boat, a better car, a pretty women and some friends.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"