Welcome Back...to ME!!!!
 

Note that this group has now returned to sailing discussions now that I've
returned.
There is no doubt that I'm the captain & leader of this group and that it
swirls out of control when I'm off for a season of sailing. Look at the
threads!!! Mostly sailing related now!

Welcome back to me!!!!

Robert B
Alt.Sailing.Asa Captain

You??? Bah!

Look at the work I've done.... I 've gotten you back to slammin' Loco and
bickering with Scotty
Doug is now engaged in his favourite pastime of discussing engineering
intricacies with Nav.
Joe is picking on Ozzy
Ganz is practicing his wit...

The universe is unfolding as it should once more

I believe my work here may be done!

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
|
| Note that this group has now returned to sailing discussions now that I've
| returned.
| There is no doubt that I'm the captain & leader of this group and that it
| swirls out of control when I'm off for a season of sailing. Look at the
| threads!!! Mostly sailing related now!
|
| Welcome back to me!!!!
|
| Robert B
| Alt.Sailing.Asa Captain

You??? Bah!

Look at the work I've done.... I 've gotten you back


The point is...nothing happens without ME.
ME, ME, ME & ME!!!!

M.E.

P-U-U-U-R-R-R-F-F-E-E-C-C-T-T!!

Thank You Bob... that was the piece that was missing.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
| The point is...nothing happens without ME.
| ME, ME, ME & ME!!!!
|
| M.E.

P-U-U-U-R-R-R-F-F-E-E-C-C-T-T!!


Finally he admits it. Yes, my return has been nothing less than that. I have
you and just about everyone (except Katy) else back at work. Even John is
starting threads about me and Scotty Potti is really on a tear!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| P-U-U-U-R-R-R-F-F-E-E-C-C-T-T!!
|
|
| Finally he admits it. Yes, my return has been nothing less than that. I
have
| you and just about everyone (except Katy) else back at work. Even John is
| starting threads about me and Scotty Potti is really on a tear!

Now Bob... I've always paid attention to your posts these many years. I've
always been hard at work on this group whenever time and work allowed.
Nothing new there.

CM

Now Bob... I've always paid attention to your posts these many years. I've
always been hard at work on this group whenever time and work allowed.
Nothing new there.

C'mon, Mooron. You act as though I wasn't watching the group from time to time
over the summer. It was DEAD and DULL in here. A high spot was how you utterly
dismantled Loco, but that was about it. Look how many threads I got going...all
sailing related as well. I've got a lot of cool sailing thread ideas..so hang
on!
Give credit, my boy!

RB AKA M.E.

Bob.... I was gone between mid May and mid July. Posted occasionally on
Saturdays when it was raining.... and it rained most every Saturday.


CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Now Bob... I've always paid attention to your posts these many years. I've
| always been hard at work on this group whenever time and work allowed.
| Nothing new there.
|
| C'mon, Mooron. You act as though I wasn't watching the group from time to
time
| over the summer. It was DEAD and DULL in here. A high spot was how you
utterly
| dismantled Loco, but that was about it. Look how many threads I got
going...all
| sailing related as well. I've got a lot of cool sailing thread ideas..so
hang
| on!
| Give credit, my boy!
|
| RB AKA M.E.

Bobsprit wrote:

You??? Bah!

Look at the work I've done.... I 've gotten you back

The point is...nothing happens without ME.
ME, ME, ME & ME!!!!

M.E.

Better get something done about your schizophrenia, Bob, before
you suffer a population explosion.
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
The Dead Drummer briefly reincarnated
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

You??? Bah!

Look at the work I've done....snip
The universe is unfolding as it should once more

I believe my work here may be done!


No wonder it's drawn back the Blob:
Mooron states he's Done a Job.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
The Dead Drummer briefly reincarnated
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm

Most flowers need manure of some type top survive....
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
P-U-U-U-R-R-R-F-F-E-E-C-C-T-T!!

Thank You Bob... that was the piece that was missing.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
| The point is...nothing happens without ME.
| ME, ME, ME & ME!!!!
|
| M.E.

Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.


"Bobsprit" wrote

Note that this group has now returned to sailing discussions now that I've
returned.
There is no doubt that I'm the captain & leader of this group and that it
swirls out of control when I'm off for a season of sailing. Look at the
threads!!! Mostly sailing related now!

Welcome back to me!!!!

Robert B
Alt.Sailing.Asa Captain

I second that vote.

In article ,
Bart Senior wrote:
Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Bart Senior wrote:

Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.

I second that vote.

Ok. It's been an hour and Doug hasn't declined the nomination. So
he's in.

ALL HAIL THE NEW CAPTAIN OF ASA! DOUGLAS S. KING!!

(Poor sap. I wouldn't take that gig for all the rum in Jamaica.)

--
// Walt
//
// There is no Volkl Conspiracy

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
P-U-U-U-R-R-R-F-F-E-E-C-C-T-T!!

Thank You Bob... that was the piece that was missing.

You looking for a piece Big Boy?

Call me, any time.

Suzy

Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.



Uh, Doug sails a Trawler.

RB

Bart Senior wrote:
Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.



Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I second that vote.

Walt wrote:
Ok. It's been an hour and Doug hasn't declined the nomination. So he's in.

ALL HAIL THE NEW CAPTAIN OF ASA! DOUGLAS S. KING!!

(Poor sap. I wouldn't take that gig for all the rum in Jamaica.)


Well, if I had managed to object in time, I would decline... but so be it.

My first official act is to double everybody's taxes... You must each
send me a bottle of rum every week. Alternative minimum tax is a bottle
of Irish whiskey every three weeks. The penalty for non-payment is that
I come to visit.

DSK

Bart,

You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Spare Me :^)

You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

I'd rather have a Sailor :^p~~..

Well Bart, this is a Democratic Group. You can ship out with any Skipper
You Choose;

Bon Voyage :^))

Ole Thom

Oh ****;-----IT"S NUTSY :^((

There is some hope. He'll soon be busy changing diapers.

Don't forget to ease the Topping Lift, Nutsy, Give the Kid some dancing
room
(Ball Room)

Let's let Nutsy learn to be a Daddy before a Captain of ASA

Ole Thom

To do that you'll need to post your address on the ng....my share of the
taxes will be forthcoming as soon as you do that...
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart Senior wrote:
Are voting for Captain? Then we should pick someone that
knows something about sailing. I vote for Doug.



Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I second that vote.

Walt wrote:
Ok. It's been an hour and Doug hasn't declined the nomination. So he's
in.

ALL HAIL THE NEW CAPTAIN OF ASA! DOUGLAS S. KING!!

(Poor sap. I wouldn't take that gig for all the rum in Jamaica.)


Well, if I had managed to object in time, I would decline... but so be it.

My first official act is to double everybody's taxes... You must each
send me a bottle of rum every week. Alternative minimum tax is a bottle
of Irish whiskey every three weeks. The penalty for non-payment is that
I come to visit.

DSK

For shame, Thomas Stewart... I never thought I would see the day that you
would denigrate any person who SAILS any type of boat (other than nutsy...)
Doug has proven time and time again that he has more than adequate knowledge
of sailing. Just because you disagree on technical things here and there
does not mean he is not just as well received a sailor as any of the rest of
us (except nutsy...). So it's water for you, bucko...DRINK THAT!
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Bart,

You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Spare Me :^)

You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

I'd rather have a Sailor :^p~~..

Well Bart, this is a Democratic Group. You can ship out with any Skipper
You Choose;

Bon Voyage :^))

Ole Thom

katysails wrote:
.... So it's water for you, bucko...DRINK THAT!

How could you be so cruel?

"Thom Stewart" wrote
You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Which Doug is that? I believe it was Navvie who was trying to claim that
an "I" section boom would be stronger, it was Capt Mooron who said that
cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.


You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

As opposed to your motorsailer?

Maybe he means the Doug who owned & raced custom 2-Tonner before he had
the trailerable Hunter... surely you're not falling into Boobsie's folly
of thinking that having the biggest boat means the best sailor? If that
were true I believe Bart would win... although maybe Oz1's fleet would
count for more...

I can't keep track, this newsgroup needs a Prime Minister. I nominate
Katysails. Ol' Thom can be the Minister of Liquid Resources.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Hey Doug,

That Storm heading for you looks bad!
Sail or power,man and beast looks like they better head for secure cover

What a time to get promoted to Capt. Good luck, old friend

Ole Thom

Thom Stewart wrote:
Hey Doug,

That Storm heading for you looks bad!

Yes it sure does!

Sail or power,man and beast looks like they better head for secure cover

We're in one of the best places to be for many miles around. If you
happen to pick up a copy of this months "Passagemaker" magazine, there's
an article in it about hurricane preparation that features our marina.


What a time to get promoted to Capt. Good luck, old friend

Thank you... about this time of year I reflect on how nice it would be
to live in a place where hurricanes are not such a threat. I couold sure
live with early sunsets, for example!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I beg to differ, Doug does not discuss engineering but blusters. Look at
the "cosine" issue to demonstrate this! He's really shown how little he
knows with that error!

Cheers



Capt. Mooron wrote:

You??? Bah!

Look at the work I've done.... I 've gotten you back to slammin' Loco and
bickering with Scotty
Doug is now engaged in his favourite pastime of discussing engineering
intricacies with Nav.
Joe is picking on Ozzy
Ganz is practicing his wit...

The universe is unfolding as it should once more

I believe my work here may be done!

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
|
| Note that this group has now returned to sailing discussions now that I've
| returned.
| There is no doubt that I'm the captain & leader of this group and that it
| swirls out of control when I'm off for a season of sailing. Look at the
| threads!!! Mostly sailing related now!
|
| Welcome back to me!!!!
|
| Robert B
| Alt.Sailing.Asa Captain

Nav wrote:
I beg to differ, Doug does not discuss engineering but blusters. Look at
the "cosine" issue to demonstrate this! He's really shown how little he
knows with that error!

It is not an error.

You never managed to identify all the forces on a free body diagram,
much less discuss how they might resolve.

Looks like you're clueless again. Didn't you ask for help down the hall,
or won't any of the other professors speak to you?

And you still owe me money.

DSK

I don't wanna be a Prime Minister...I wanna be the Empress.....
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
katysails wrote:
.... So it's water for you, bucko...DRINK THAT!

How could you be so cruel?

"Thom Stewart" wrote
You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Which Doug is that? I believe it was Navvie who was trying to claim that
an "I" section boom would be stronger, it was Capt Mooron who said that
cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.


You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

As opposed to your motorsailer?

Maybe he means the Doug who owned & raced custom 2-Tonner before he had
the trailerable Hunter... surely you're not falling into Boobsie's folly
of thinking that having the biggest boat means the best sailor? If that
were true I believe Bart would win... although maybe Oz1's fleet would
count for more...

I can't keep track, this newsgroup needs a Prime Minister. I nominate
Katysails. Ol' Thom can be the Minister of Liquid Resources.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"katysails" wrote in message

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

**** You Doug.... where did he prove that?

I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I proved
that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!

So.. BITE ME!

CM

DSK wrote:
Nav wrote:

I beg to differ, Doug does not discuss engineering but blusters. Look
at the "cosine" issue to demonstrate this! He's really shown how
little he knows with that error!


It is not an error.


And you claim to be an engineer. LOL

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"katysails" wrote in message

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

**** You Doug.... where did he prove that?

I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I proved
that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!

So.. BITE ME!


In Doug's world he's never wrong. Even cosines take on new meaning and I
beams are replaced by triangle box sections to save steel. It's
pointless trying to discuss any science or engineering with him.

Cheers

Tell you the truth... I like discussing any subject with either of you!

If nothing else you both keep me thinking !

....that alone places both of you in the top ranks of the group!

Probably lends much to the fact I'm prone to debate almost any topic of
interest with either of you.

Also explains why both of you are so much alike!

Now tell me again Nav.... can I dance or What!!?? :-)


CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Tell you the truth... I like discussing any subject with either of you!

If nothing else you both keep me thinking !

...that alone places both of you in the top ranks of the group!

Probably lends much to the fact I'm prone to debate almost any topic of
interest with either of you.

Also explains why both of you are so much alike!

Now tell me again Nav.... can I dance or What!!?? :-)


Well I'd call that a tango for Doug and Jive for me...

;-)

Cheers

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

Capt. Mooron wrote:
**** You Doug....

A little touchy, are we?

... where did he prove that?

:Scott Vernon
:alt.sailing.asa
:8/28/2004 11:10 AM
"Capt. Mooron" wrote

Quit toying with the damn boom.... look think of it this way... how
many
lifting devices utilize a support located under the boom at less
than 25% of
the boom length? NONE!


Wrong, kanook.
Have you never seen an engine crane?
A bascule type draw bridge?
Any hydraulic crane with the boom out?
An excavator?

need more?

Scotty





I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load.

And that's wrong. It's not a case for *always*. Did you ever realize
that the tension on the topping lift was greater than the weight, and
the forces on the mast were also multiples of the weight load?

I don't think you tried to understand what I was trying to explain. I am
not a particularly good explainer, but your mind seems to be made up
regardless of the above facts.

DSK

DSK wrote:


I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load.


And that's wrong. It's not a case for *always*. Did you ever realize
that the tension on the topping lift was greater than the weight, and
the forces on the mast were also multiples of the weight load?

Did you ever realize the shear and bending forces on the boom are far
higher if a vang were used to lift the weight? That the vang attachemnt
to the boom is not desined for compression?

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Good Grief.... don't make me show you the pictures of the big cranes again
Doug!! :-)

You mean the ones with the rams at about 20% of their length? Yeah,
let's take a look at them again!

Regards
Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| Good Grief.... don't make me show you the pictures of the big cranes
again
| Doug!! :-)
|
| You mean the ones with the rams at about 20% of their length? Yeah,
| let's take a look at them again!


Nope not those piddly things... the real lifters that realize rams just
don't cut it.

CM

Sober up Mooron and stop lying.


"Capt. MooronSprit" wrote


| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry
to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

**** You Doug.... where did he prove that?

I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I
proved
that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!

So.. BITE ME!

CM

Don't make me have to repost that reply in which you most certainly agreed
that a topping lift was more effective than a vang to lift objects ... Just
don't make me do it Man!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| Sober up Mooron and stop lying.
|
|
| "Capt. MooronSprit" wrote
|
|
| | cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry
| to solid
| | vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.
|
| **** You Doug.... where did he prove that?
|
| I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I
| proved
| that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!
|
| So.. BITE ME!
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

If you did, I'd have to repost the pics of engine jacks and excavators
that proved your '25%' statement erroneous.

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Don't make me have to repost that reply in which you most certainly
agreed
that a topping lift was more effective than a vang to lift objects
.... Just
don't make me do it Man!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| Sober up Mooron and stop lying.
|
|
| "Capt. MooronSprit" wrote
|
|
| | cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar
geometry
| to solid
| | vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.
|
| **** You Doug.... where did he prove that?
|
| I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a
load. I
| proved
| that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!
|
| So.. BITE ME!
|
| CM
|
|
|
|

Oh Yeah... and I'd have to repost the pictures of the big cranes that are
used for serious lifting... which don't have rams!!

So there!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| If you did, I'd have to repost the pics of engine jacks and excavators
| that proved your '25%' statement erroneous.
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Don't make me have to repost that reply in which you most certainly
| agreed
| that a topping lift was more effective than a vang to lift objects
| ... Just
| don't make me do it Man!
|
| CM
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | Sober up Mooron and stop lying.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. MooronSprit" wrote
| |
| |
| | | cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar
| geometry
| | to solid
| | | vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.
| |
| | **** You Doug.... where did he prove that?
| |
| | I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a
| load. I
| | proved
| | that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!
| |
| | So.. BITE ME!
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
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