Buying for Charm?
 

Again Scotty Potti has questioned one of my posts after learning that many of
the folks here had been through quite an upgrade curve...or were still planning
one. Beat on that point he then worried over my comment that "I'd never met a
sailor with zero consideration for the look of the boat." In addition to that
Katy stated that looks shouldn't matter to a sailor.
What a load of crap, I say!
For me, the looks of a boat are worth about 20-30% of my final decision. It's
not more or less important than performance, but there's no reason to own a
ugly boat like Loco's or Capt. Neal's. Perhaps Loco "thinks" his boat is
attractive and that's fine. Some guys prefer women shaped like mailboxes too.
So....how did the beauty of your boat effect your decision to buy. Would you
have bought a boat that offended your eye if she crunched the numbers well?

RB

I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles, RV, and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters between Bob
and Scotty. But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out the gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he runs off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to replace the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one of the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to take the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?
Scout


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Again Scotty Potti has questioned one of my posts after learning that many
of
the folks here had been through quite an upgrade curve...or were still
planning
one. Beat on that point he then worried over my comment that "I'd never
met a
sailor with zero consideration for the look of the boat." In addition to
that
Katy stated that looks shouldn't matter to a sailor.
What a load of crap, I say!
For me, the looks of a boat are worth about 20-30% of my final decision.
It's
not more or less important than performance, but there's no reason to own
a
ugly boat like Loco's or Capt. Neal's. Perhaps Loco "thinks" his boat is
attractive and that's fine. Some guys prefer women shaped like mailboxes
too.
So....how did the beauty of your boat effect your decision to buy. Would
you
have bought a boat that offended your eye if she crunched the numbers
well?

RB

I'll bite:

Flying Tadpole II: built for style 1/3rd, simplicity 1/3rd, speed
1/3rd, read the website http://www.ace.net.au/schooner

Lady Kate: looks didn't come into it at all for purchase. i'd
watched her professionally built, seen her on the water, knew
what she was capable of, understood the design philosphy, and
grabbed her for spare change in a receivership sale because I
knew people locally would be deterred by her difference. They
were, and there wasn't time for the Sydney push to muscle in.
However, I did know what she looked like on the water, quite
different from the packingcaseatthedock effect, so there may
still have been a subliminal "looks" effect. Say, 2%. So at a
5% fiducial limit, not significant.

Again, lurkers see the website
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/sbhome.htm

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at http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm , thank you
and please keep doing it!!!!!)
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Bobsprit wrote:


For me, the looks of a boat are worth about 20-30% of my final decision. It's
not more or less important than performance, but there's no reason to own a
ugly boat like Loco's or Capt. Neal's. Perhaps Loco "thinks" his boat is
attractive and that's fine. Some guys prefer women shaped like mailboxes too.
So....how did the beauty of your boat effect your decision to buy. Would you
have bought a boat that offended your eye if she crunched the numbers well?

RB

You already know the answer to that....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles, RV, and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters between
Bob
and Scotty. But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he runs off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to replace the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one of the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to take the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?
Scout


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Again Scotty Potti has questioned one of my posts after learning that
many
of
the folks here had been through quite an upgrade curve...or were still
planning
one. Beat on that point he then worried over my comment that "I'd never
met a
sailor with zero consideration for the look of the boat." In addition to
that
Katy stated that looks shouldn't matter to a sailor.
What a load of crap, I say!
For me, the looks of a boat are worth about 20-30% of my final decision.
It's
not more or less important than performance, but there's no reason to
own
a
ugly boat like Loco's or Capt. Neal's. Perhaps Loco "thinks" his boat is
attractive and that's fine. Some guys prefer women shaped like mailboxes
too.
So....how did the beauty of your boat effect your decision to buy. Would
you
have bought a boat that offended your eye if she crunched the numbers
well?

RB

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles, RV,
and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters
between Bob
and Scotty.


Really? That's too bad, about selling your toys. Back in the '70s I
sold some guns and some bikes, including a 1948 Harley, to buy my
first truck. Man I wish I still had them.


But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he runs
off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to replace
the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one of
the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to take
the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?

Are you 100% sure he did it? I would confront him. Demand he pay.
After he paid I'd return the wallet.

Scotty

I may hold onto the 1100cc, but the 600cc is going. It's all preparations
for moving in a few/several months. My wife hasn't ridden her bike since her
car accident 2 years ago. I can't see keeping it if she doesn't ride. After
we move, I plan to upgrade all to the best of my financial ability.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles, RV,
and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters
between Bob
and Scotty.


Really? That's too bad, about selling your toys. Back in the '70s I
sold some guns and some bikes, including a 1948 Harley, to buy my
first truck. Man I wish I still had them.


But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he runs
off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to replace
the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one of
the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to take
the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?

Are you 100% sure he did it? I would confront him. Demand he pay.
After he paid I'd return the wallet.

Scotty

fait accompli - : )
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You already know the answer to that....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles, RV, and
so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters between
Bob
and Scotty. But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board
her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he runs off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to replace the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one of the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to take the
cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?
Scout


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Again Scotty Potti has questioned one of my posts after learning that
many
of
the folks here had been through quite an upgrade curve...or were still
planning
one. Beat on that point he then worried over my comment that "I'd
never
met a
sailor with zero consideration for the look of the boat." In addition
to
that
Katy stated that looks shouldn't matter to a sailor.
What a load of crap, I say!
For me, the looks of a boat are worth about 20-30% of my final
decision.
It's
not more or less important than performance, but there's no reason to
own
a
ugly boat like Loco's or Capt. Neal's. Perhaps Loco "thinks" his boat
is
attractive and that's fine. Some guys prefer women shaped like
mailboxes
too.
So....how did the beauty of your boat effect your decision to buy.
Would
you
have bought a boat that offended your eye if she crunched the numbers
well?

RB

You find a house yet?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I may hold onto the 1100cc, but the 600cc is going. It's all
preparations
for moving in a few/several months. My wife hasn't ridden her bike
since her
car accident 2 years ago. I can't see keeping it if she doesn't
ride. After
we move, I plan to upgrade all to the best of my financial ability.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles,
RV,
and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters
between Bob
and Scotty.


Really? That's too bad, about selling your toys. Back in the '70s
I
sold some guns and some bikes, including a 1948 Harley, to buy my
first truck. Man I wish I still had them.


But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out
the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he
runs
off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to
replace
the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one
of
the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to
take
the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?

Are you 100% sure he did it? I would confront him. Demand he pay.
After he paid I'd return the wallet.

Scotty

I'll email you.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You find a house yet?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I may hold onto the 1100cc, but the 600cc is going. It's all
preparations
for moving in a few/several months. My wife hasn't ridden her bike
since her
car accident 2 years ago. I can't see keeping it if she doesn't
ride. After
we move, I plan to upgrade all to the best of my financial ability.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys (motorcycles,
RV,
and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the waters
between Bob
and Scotty.


Really? That's too bad, about selling your toys. Back in the '70s
I
sold some guns and some bikes, including a 1948 Harley, to buy my
first truck. Man I wish I still had them.


But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check out
the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then he
runs
off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to
replace
the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in one
of
the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to
take
the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?

Are you 100% sure he did it? I would confront him. Demand he pay.
After he paid I'd return the wallet.

Scotty

Right, wouldn't want the riff-raff here to know where you live.
;)


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'll email you.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
You find a house yet?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I may hold onto the 1100cc, but the 600cc is going. It's all
preparations
for moving in a few/several months. My wife hasn't ridden her
bike
since her
car accident 2 years ago. I can't see keeping it if she doesn't
ride. After
we move, I plan to upgrade all to the best of my financial
ability.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message

...
I'm selling my boat, and several of my other toys
(motorcycles,
RV,
and so
on). I want a bigger boat to sail in more comfort in the
waters
between Bob
and Scotty.


Really? That's too bad, about selling your toys. Back in the
'70s
I
sold some guns and some bikes, including a 1948 Harley, to
buy my
first truck. Man I wish I still had them.


But that's beside the point. Naturally I let people board her
and look around, inspect the sails, flush the toilet, check
out
the
gadgets,
yadda yadda. So some idiot forces open my forward hatch
without
releasing
one of the locks and rips the hardware off the hatch. Then
he
runs
off
without owning up. Since it's molded plastic, I'll have to
replace
the
hatch.
Well what do ya know, his wallet fell out and I found it in
one
of
the
berths. It's got close to $50 cash in it. Is it dishonest to
take
the cash
to fix my hatch (and then mail him his wallet)?

Are you 100% sure he did it? I would confront him. Demand he
pay.
After he paid I'd return the wallet.

Scotty