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Jonathan Ganz August 23rd 04 07:40 AM

Dole should be ashamed of himself. He should know that it's
not the degree of injury that qualifies someone for a Purple
Heart.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 11:39:31 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Even McCain is calling for Bush to condemn the group's ads. So far
he hasn't done it.




DSK August 23rd 04 11:26 AM

You and Dave & Bart & Joe
really really really want to believe all sorts of horrible things about
Kerry... he's bad, evil, communist, satanist, etc etc..


SAIL LOCO wrote:
Is it true or not that there is a memorial in HoChiMin City thanking J. Kerry
for helping end the war?


I don't know, but I doubt it. Do you believe there is? Who told you so,
and what do they gain by getting you to believe it?

You've been sold a bill of goods, and are angry at the rest of us for
not getting swindled too.

DSK


Scout August 23rd 04 11:45 AM

I'm not sure. I heard he won the Deep Purple Award for Smoke on the Water.
Scout

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
You and Dave & Bart & Joe
really really really want to believe all sorts of horrible things about
Kerry... he's bad, evil, communist, satanist, etc etc..

Is it true or not that there is a memorial in HoChiMin City thanking J.

Kerry
for helping end the war?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"




Horvath August 23rd 04 12:12 PM

On 23 Aug 2004 01:59:06 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote this
crap:

You and Dave & Bart & Joe
really really really want to believe all sorts of horrible things about
Kerry... he's bad, evil, communist, satanist, etc etc..

Is it true or not that there is a memorial in HoChiMin City thanking J. Kerry
for helping end the war?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"




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40357545

Kerry Honored by Vietnamese Communists

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Communist Vietnamese Honor John Kerry, the War Protestor, as a Hero
in the Communist Victory over the United States in the Vietnam War.

In the Vietnamese Communist War Remnants Museum (formerly known as
the "War Crimes Museum") in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon), a photograph
of John Kerry hangs in a room dedicated to the anti-war activists who
helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War. The photograph
shows then-Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry being greeted by
the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Comrade Do
Muoi.

Jeffrey M. Epstein of Vietnam Vets for the Truth acquired the
photograph over the Memorial Day weekend as America was commemorating
its military heroes. Epstein's organization, Vietnam Vets for the
Truth, had issued a general request last week for photographs
documenting Kerry's activities on behalf of the enemy. Bob Shirley, a
Vietnam Swift Boat veteran (www.pcf45.com), sent the photograph to
Epstein in response to that call. Shirley recently joined over 200
other Swift Boat veterans in signing an open letter questioning
Kerry's fitness to serve as Commander-in-Chief.

Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General
Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam, July 15-18,
1993. Photo taken in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War
Crimes Museum") in Saigon in May 2004.

Jeff Epstein explains the importance of the photograph:

"This photograph's unquestionable significance lies in its placement
in the American protestors' section of the War Crimes Museum in
Saigon. The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's
contributions to their victory. This find can be compared to the
discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of
honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."

War Remnants Museum, Saigon, May 2004. The uniformed sailor is from
an Australian minesweeper docked in the Saigon River.

Photographer Bill Lupetti, who is currently visiting Vietnam, took
the photographs in Saigon during his recent visit there. Lupetti, a
former Hospital Corpsman, is also a Swift Boat veteran.

Below the photograph of John Kerry are explanatory placards in
English, French, Vietnamese, and Chinese. The English placard reads:

"Mr. Do Muoi, Secretary General of the Vietnamese Communist Party
met with Congressman and Veterans Delegation in Vietnam (July 15-18,
1993)"

Senator Kerry may argue today that his anti-war protests did not
render support to the enemy in time of war and that his activities
did not violate the definition of treason given in Article III,
Section 3, of the US Constitution. This exhibit paying tribute to
Kerry in the War Protestors Hall of the War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi
Minh City tells a very different story. The Vietnamese communists
clearly feel that the American anti-war protestors were a very
important force in undermining support in the United States for
American war efforts, a force that contributed materially to ultimate
communist victory in 1975.

On Fox News' Hannity and Colmes show on Friday, May 28, 2004, Rear
Admiral Roy Hoffman (USN, Retired) accused John Kerry of being a
traitor because of his anti-war activities. This photo, which
demonstrates the extent to which the Vietnamese communists
acknowledge that he supported them during the Vietnam War,
corroborates this charge. (Hoffman, the former commander of the Swift
Boat force and one-time Kerry's superior officer, is Chairman of
Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth (SwiftVets.com).

Vietnam Vets for the Truth (KerryLied.com) was established for the
sole purpose of organizing a rally pointing up Kerry's lies during
the so-called "Winter Soldier" hearings in the US Senate in 1971. The
rally, appropriately called "Kerry Lied," will be held on Capitol
Hill on September 12th.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

DSK August 23rd 04 12:48 PM

Horvath wrote:

X-URL:
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/st...page=200405311
40357545

... Vietnam Vets for the Truth (KerryLied.com) was established for the
sole purpose of organizing a rally pointing up Kerry's lies during
the so-called "Winter Soldier" hearings in the US Senate in 1971. The
rally, appropriately called "Kerry Lied," will be held on Capitol
Hill on September 12th.


So, they're 34 years too late?

Actually, if that is true then they are a group of Nixon stooges, paid
out of his slush fund. Maybe they've been out of the public eye for so
long because they were in jail?

It's just more of the same slander & character assassination, from the
same group of paid shills & proven liars... don't you have anything good
to say about Bush & Cheney instead?

DSK


Walt August 23rd 04 02:19 PM

Scout wrote:

I'm not sure. I heard he won the Deep Purple Award for Smoke on the Water.


And Fire in the Sky. Don't forget the fire in the sky.

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Solo August 23rd 04 02:49 PM

"Phil Morris" wrote in message link.net...
snip In the case of Ted Sampley, the same guy who did Bush's dirty work in
going after Sen. John McCain in the 2000 Republican primaries is doing
the job against Kerry this year. Sampley dared compare McCain, who
spent five years as a Vietnam POW, with 'the Manchurian Candidate.'"
[Dionne op-ed, Washington Post, 4/27/04]

Sampley Called McCain a Coward and a Traitor.
Sampley accused McCain of being a weak-minded coward who had escaped
death by collaborating with the enemy. Sampley claimed that McCain had
first been compromised by the Vietnamese, then recruited by the
Soviets." [Salon.com]snip

Actually this what Sampley said about McCain:
http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm

SAIL LOCO August 23rd 04 03:52 PM

I don't know, but I doubt it. Do you believe there is? Who told you so,
and what do they gain by getting you to believe it?.

It's been on the news and in the papers........... the liberal papers.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Walt August 23rd 04 04:00 PM

SAIL LOCO wrote:

I don't know, but I doubt it. Do you believe there is? Who told you so,
and ...

It's been on the news and in the papers........... the liberal papers.


Got a citation? I mean a real publication, not just some wingnut kook
website.

what do they gain by getting you to believe it?.


Another sucker. One born every minute.

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Jonathan Ganz August 23rd 04 05:45 PM

We should be calling him Stumpy anyway!

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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:48:33 -0400, DSK wrote:

It's just more of the same slander & character assassination, from the
same group of paid shills & proven liars... don't you have anything good
to say about Bush & Cheney instead?

DSK


Poor Horvath! Now you've really stumped him.

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