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Scott Vernon August 21st 04 10:10 PM

Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees against

yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the country.

In Hoboken?















Scout August 21st 04 10:45 PM

Scotty,
I promise you no one at Lehigh University is focusing on Hoboken. Don't take
it personally.
I guessed Lancaster because you live near there.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees against

yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the country.

In Hoboken?

















Scout August 21st 04 11:13 PM

and Scotty, a big p.s. to set the record straight right here, as you seem
to have made a small, understandable but incorrect assumption. I've never
claimed to be an engineer in anything. I said I studied at one of the best
Engineering schools in the country, and I did. (according to US News & World
Reports 2005 "America's Best Colleges" Lehigh is tied with Yale and
Dartmouth in Engineering. I've had enough science to ace the teaching
science and technology exams (2 separate certs), but most of what I know
comes from working so many years as a technician with mechanical engineering
firms. Before teaching, my job had always been to show engineers where they
went wrong. They're not a lot different than high school kids.

Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees against

yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the country.

In Hoboken?

















Scout August 21st 04 11:18 PM

of course, you should have known that since I told you that privately a year
ago!
Scout

"Scout" wrote in message
...
and Scotty, a big p.s. to set the record straight right here, as you seem
to have made a small, understandable but incorrect assumption. I've never
claimed to be an engineer in anything. I said I studied at one of the best
Engineering schools in the country, and I did. (according to US News &

World
Reports 2005 "America's Best Colleges" Lehigh is tied with Yale and
Dartmouth in Engineering. I've had enough science to ace the teaching
science and technology exams (2 separate certs), but most of what I know
comes from working so many years as a technician with mechanical

engineering
firms. Before teaching, my job had always been to show engineers where

they
went wrong. They're not a lot different than high school kids.

Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees against

yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the country.

In Hoboken?



















gonefishiing August 22nd 04 12:33 AM

finally! an idea.
good luck to ya.
do you smoke?

gf

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yikes, there's a big T-storm rolling thru here right now. I better put
my foil beanie on and go outside and pray.





gonefishiing August 22nd 04 12:54 AM

you know my dad?!
i know he vacations in PA, so its possible.

zeus! thats funny
i think dad only deals with union reps.

i just called the insurance company, as any reasonable person would do.

gf.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Did you have Big Tony put a contract out on Zeus after that?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Scout August 22nd 04 01:21 AM

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What systems are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scout August 22nd 04 01:23 AM

that was a different experiment!


OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
Nah, he was right!
He put a lightning rod up and found lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:21:02 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What systems are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scout August 22nd 04 01:30 AM

The idea is to provide an alternative, low resistance path to ground.
The concept is proven to work well on buildings, why not on sailboats?


OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
Yeah, but the results show that if you stick a lightning rod up into a
thunderstorm, it is very likely that you will find lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:23:24 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

that was a different experiment!


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Nah, he was right!
He put a lightning rod up and found lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:21:02 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What systems

are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scout August 22nd 04 01:39 AM

but you're not "looking for it"
the idea that lightning rods 'attract' a hit is a misconception. If
lightning hits your l.rods, it would have hit your mast anyway. Most of the
lightning protections systems I've seen, on commercial buildings, use copper
cable no more than 1/2" diameter.


OooooozeOne wrote in message
...

Big difference between the mass of a building and a skinny little ally
mast.
Lighting conductors on buildings are thick, wide straps of copper, a
far cry from the cables or strips that boats use.
Can't remember ever seeing a lightning protected yacht that didn't
suffer extensive damage from a direct strike.

For my money..why go looking for it.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:30:59 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

The idea is to provide an alternative, low resistance path to ground.
The concept is proven to work well on buildings, why not on sailboats?


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Yeah, but the results show that if you stick a lightning rod up into a
thunderstorm, it is very likely that you will find lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:23:24 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

that was a different experiment!


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Nah, he was right!
He put a lightning rod up and found lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:21:02 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"


scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What

systems
are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scout August 22nd 04 01:52 AM

Thanks for the input though. I wasn't looking to start a flamewar with this
topic, and I had already done my own research and formed my own opinions, I
just wanted to know how some of you interpreted the available evidence.
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
...

Big difference between the mass of a building and a skinny little ally
mast.
Lighting conductors on buildings are thick, wide straps of copper, a
far cry from the cables or strips that boats use.
Can't remember ever seeing a lightning protected yacht that didn't
suffer extensive damage from a direct strike.

For my money..why go looking for it.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:30:59 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

The idea is to provide an alternative, low resistance path to ground.
The concept is proven to work well on buildings, why not on sailboats?


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Yeah, but the results show that if you stick a lightning rod up into a
thunderstorm, it is very likely that you will find lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:23:24 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

that was a different experiment!


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Nah, he was right!
He put a lightning rod up and found lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:21:02 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"


scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What

systems
are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Flying Tadpole August 22nd 04 09:57 AM



gonefishiing wrote:

finally! an idea.
good luck to ya.
do you smoke?


Not yet...


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Flying Tadpole August 22nd 04 10:01 AM



Scout wrote:

snip I wasn't looking to start a flamewar with this
topic,


Goodness me, a virtual pacifist on a.s.asa????

snip
just wanted to know how some of you interpreted the available evidence.


In our time-honoured fashion: hit, and mis-.

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Scout August 22nd 04 12:30 PM


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
snip I wasn't looking to start a flamewar with this
topic,

Goodness me, a virtual pacifist on a.s.asa????


Welllll, I wasn't looking not to start a flamewar either.

snip
just wanted to know how some of you interpreted the available evidence.

In our time-honoured fashion: hit, and mis-.


For some, this proved to be a mental stress test. Jaxie collapsed on the
treadmill.

Scout



Flying Tadpole August 22nd 04 01:20 PM



Scout wrote:

For some, this proved to be a mental stress test. Jaxie collapsed on the
treadmill.


Hmmm. An n-ring flea circus. Scout the trickster, Scotty the
roadster, Tadpole the jokester, gonefishing the gangster,
Katysails the songster, Seahag the hipster, Mooron the forester,
Oz the napster and then, sandwiched in the middle, uncured and
smoking, Jax the hamster...
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Go south instead.
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtdpolemusic.htm

Scout August 22nd 04 01:37 PM

hehe, that's good stuff!
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

For some, this proved to be a mental stress test. Jaxie collapsed on the
treadmill.


Hmmm. An n-ring flea circus. Scout the trickster, Scotty the
roadster, Tadpole the jokester, gonefishing the gangster,
Katysails the songster, Seahag the hipster, Mooron the forester,
Oz the napster and then, sandwiched in the middle, uncured and
smoking, Jax the hamster...
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Go south instead.
http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtdpolemusic.htm




Scott Vernon August 22nd 04 02:56 PM

Thad. Stevens is a trade school college. Stevens IT is second only to
MIT for engineering.

SV

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Scotty,
I promise you no one at Lehigh University is focusing on Hoboken.

Don't take
it personally.
I guessed Lancaster because you live near there.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message

...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to

hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees

against
yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the

country.

In Hoboken?



















Scott Vernon August 22nd 04 02:57 PM

You did? Oh, yeah, now I remember.


"Scout" wrote in message
...
of course, you should have known that since I told you that

privately a year
ago!
Scout

"Scout" wrote in message
...
and Scotty, a big p.s. to set the record straight right here, as

you seem
to have made a small, understandable but incorrect assumption.

I've never
claimed to be an engineer in anything. I said I studied at one of

the best
Engineering schools in the country, and I did. (according to US

News &
World
Reports 2005 "America's Best Colleges" Lehigh is tied with Yale

and
Dartmouth in Engineering. I've had enough science to ace the

teaching
science and technology exams (2 separate certs), but most of what

I know
comes from working so many years as a technician with mechanical

engineering
firms. Before teaching, my job had always been to show engineers

where
they
went wrong. They're not a lot different than high school kids.

Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by

common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message

...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message

...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message


...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to

hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in

message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees

against
yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the

country.

In Hoboken?





















Scott Vernon August 22nd 04 03:01 PM

"gonefishiing" wrote ...
you know my dad?!
i know he vacations in PA, so its possible.


Yes , I know everone that's ever been in PA.


zeus! thats funny
i think dad only deals with union reps.


Vito? I hate unions.



i just called the insurance company, and threatened the CEO with

cement shoes..

gf.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Did you have Big Tony put a contract out on Zeus after that?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_







Scout August 22nd 04 03:04 PM

yes it is, but it's a very good trade school, and I wouldn't have thought
less of you for sending your son there.
Some of its graduates are every bit as capable as the IT.
Not to bust your bubble or anything, but Stevens IT, while a great school,
is a bit further down the most recent list than #2.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Thad. Stevens is a trade school college. Stevens IT is second only to
MIT for engineering.

SV

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Scotty,
I promise you no one at Lehigh University is focusing on Hoboken.

Don't take
it personally.
I guessed Lancaster because you live near there.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Bahhhhhhhhhh! As in Hoboken. A common error made by common
folk, but not by real engineers.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
as in Lancaster?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I used to go parking up there.

BTW, my son went to Stevens.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message

...
yep, classes on the hill, football in the valley.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
up on the hill, eh?

"Scout" wrote in message

...
nah, that place in Bethlehem where the Eagles like to

hold
pre-season camp.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote
But I'll tell you what, I'll match my degrees

against
yours
any
day.
I went
to one of the best Engineering schools in the

country.

In Hoboken?





















Scott Vernon August 22nd 04 03:17 PM

"Scout" wrote ...
yes it is, but it's a very good trade school, and I wouldn't have

thought
less of you for sending your son there.
Some of its graduates are every bit as capable as the IT.


You're right. We have a few friends that went there (and know 2 kids
that are there now).


Not to bust your bubble or anything, but Stevens IT, while a great

school,
is a bit further down the most recent list than #2.



Well, that's what the Stevens people told us.
He only went to SIT for 1 year, then transfered to Penn State.

SV






Scout August 22nd 04 03:22 PM

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Well, that's what the Stevens people told us.

Ah geez! Lehigh told us we wuz the best! Now I don't know who to believe!!

He only went to SIT for 1 year, then transfered to Penn State.

Another great engineering school. When I was stationed at the nuclear plant,
I was surrounded by Penn State engineers. Man, could they drink!

Scout



katysails August 22nd 04 08:50 PM

Seeing there's no one to report the experience...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout

"katysails" wrote
I have had so many experiences with lightning near misses over the

years,
boat and otherwise, that I am positive that is how I am going to end it
all....






katysails August 22nd 04 08:58 PM

My Dad went to Penn State for meteorology way back in the olden days after
the War....but he never said anything about the drinking...maybe it was
limited to the Engineering Dept.

"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wrote

Well, that's what the Stevens people told us.

Ah geez! Lehigh told us we wuz the best! Now I don't know who to believe!!

He only went to SIT for 1 year, then transfered to Penn State.

Another great engineering school. When I was stationed at the nuclear

plant,
I was surrounded by Penn State engineers. Man, could they drink!

Scout





katysails August 22nd 04 09:00 PM

So's a;algae...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
It's alive ~~~ IT'S ALIVE!!

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Oops...
Strike on, strike on, electric pen!
And from these golems, make us men!

(Igor, tonight we must recreate a FLying Tadpole, but this time
we'll leave out the hubris and just stick with the green bubbling
stuff. Now quickly, raise the platform and the lightning rod,
hnnf hnnnf)

Scout wrote:

What's with this new proclivity for posting negativity?
It seems a bit beneath the Tim I know,
If you deem your recent luck, means your boat cannot be struck,
I dare you to rename her, The Trevino!

I beseech you do not boast, with arrogance don't toast,
Hubristically inferring volts won't find you,
For I've seen what's left of men, when God trickle charges them,
A smoking heap of flesh, the smell of stew.

By other posters I've been jolted, though you're first to wish me

bolted,
For bringing up the topic of this force,
Just remember if I'm gaffed,
I'll still have the final laugh,
'Cause your CD buying public's just been halved.

Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote
If there were any justice, lightning would strike you for firing
this topic up again. What's next...guns?


--
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Scout August 22nd 04 09:02 PM

the 60s changed everything. ; )
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
My Dad went to Penn State for meteorology way back in the olden days after
the War....but he never said anything about the drinking...maybe it was
limited to the Engineering Dept.

"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wrote

Well, that's what the Stevens people told us.

Ah geez! Lehigh told us we wuz the best! Now I don't know who to

believe!!

He only went to SIT for 1 year, then transfered to Penn State.

Another great engineering school. When I was stationed at the nuclear

plant,
I was surrounded by Penn State engineers. Man, could they drink!

Scout







katysails August 22nd 04 09:03 PM

The horse down the street disintegrated and all that was left were his shoes
and the molten bits left of his halter...and a big greasy stinky black char
mark...


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout


All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
--
Flying Tadpole

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Scout August 22nd 04 09:04 PM

all of the survivor reports I've seen looked something like this: "I didn't
feel a thing, I woke up and my shirt was smoking."
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Seeing there's no one to report the experience...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout

"katysails" wrote
I have had so many experiences with lightning near misses over the

years,
boat and otherwise, that I am positive that is how I am going to end

it
all....








Scout August 22nd 04 09:05 PM

maybe he "bolted"
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
The horse down the street disintegrated and all that was left were his

shoes
and the molten bits left of his halter...and a big greasy stinky black

char
mark...


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout


All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Join the chorus:
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Scout August 22nd 04 09:06 PM

I think that was a different movie: ~ what's it alllll about ... Algae? ~
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
So's a;algae...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
It's alive ~~~ IT'S ALIVE!!

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Oops...
Strike on, strike on, electric pen!
And from these golems, make us men!

(Igor, tonight we must recreate a FLying Tadpole, but this time
we'll leave out the hubris and just stick with the green bubbling
stuff. Now quickly, raise the platform and the lightning rod,
hnnf hnnnf)

Scout wrote:

What's with this new proclivity for posting negativity?
It seems a bit beneath the Tim I know,
If you deem your recent luck, means your boat cannot be struck,
I dare you to rename her, The Trevino!

I beseech you do not boast, with arrogance don't toast,
Hubristically inferring volts won't find you,
For I've seen what's left of men, when God trickle charges them,
A smoking heap of flesh, the smell of stew.

By other posters I've been jolted, though you're first to wish me

bolted,
For bringing up the topic of this force,
Just remember if I'm gaffed,
I'll still have the final laugh,
'Cause your CD buying public's just been halved.

Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote
If there were any justice, lightning would strike you for firing
this topic up again. What's next...guns?

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katysails August 22nd 04 09:08 PM

Well, that was truly gross.....was your psyche affected forever? And Mr.
Sails wants to know "Where is this bar?"

"Scout" wrote in message
...
It was 30 years ago, almost to the day. I was an 18 year old tough guy
working a summer job to make some book money for college. I was working

the
7AM-3PM shift at a factory called Strick Trailer. An August storm, born of
high heat and humidity, was upon us. A co-worker had ridden his Harley
motorcycle to the factory that morning, but his wife, concerned for his
safety, had driven the 60 miles from their home at the Jersey Shore to

pick
up him and his bike with their truck.
Ah, irony. At 3:05, as we ran to our cars to avoid the drenching, I saw

him
loading his bike on the truck, when a flash was seen and a boom was heard,
so loud that all the War Vets instinctively dropped to the asphalt. It

took
a second or two before I heard the screams of his wife. I ran over to the
truck to help, as did a few others.
I'm no doctor, but this man was dead dead dead. His eyes looked like big
fried eggs. He smelled like a cross between burning chemicals and roast
beef. His hair and his clothes were smoking. His bike was charred, as was
the back of his truck.
The ambulance showed up and took him away. I made my way across Rt 1 to a
go-go bar known for serving minors. I drank heavily and played pool,

vaguely
aware that naked girls were smiling at me for dollars. I looked at their
bare breasts and saw only his big fried egg eyes. Somehow I got home,

puked
in the driveway, slept out back in a lawn chair and woke up in time for

work
the next morning.
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout


All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
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katysails August 22nd 04 09:11 PM

That theory doesn't work...lightning does strike the same place twice, three
times, four times...our former peach tree is the now non-living truth....

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?.

I've already had one boat hit by lightning so I don't have to worry about

it
anymore.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"




Scout August 22nd 04 09:12 PM

The doc said I'm fine except for the fact that I tend to want to talk about
lightning a lot, which can really **** off a lot of people.
The bar is still open for business, although they have new girls there now -
it's called The Red Raven and it's on Rt 1 in Fairless Hills.
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Well, that was truly gross.....was your psyche affected forever? And Mr.
Sails wants to know "Where is this bar?"

"Scout" wrote in message
...
It was 30 years ago, almost to the day. I was an 18 year old tough guy
working a summer job to make some book money for college. I was working

the
7AM-3PM shift at a factory called Strick Trailer. An August storm, born

of
high heat and humidity, was upon us. A co-worker had ridden his Harley
motorcycle to the factory that morning, but his wife, concerned for his
safety, had driven the 60 miles from their home at the Jersey Shore to

pick
up him and his bike with their truck.
Ah, irony. At 3:05, as we ran to our cars to avoid the drenching, I saw

him
loading his bike on the truck, when a flash was seen and a boom was

heard,
so loud that all the War Vets instinctively dropped to the asphalt. It

took
a second or two before I heard the screams of his wife. I ran over to

the
truck to help, as did a few others.
I'm no doctor, but this man was dead dead dead. His eyes looked like big
fried eggs. He smelled like a cross between burning chemicals and roast
beef. His hair and his clothes were smoking. His bike was charred, as

was
the back of his truck.
The ambulance showed up and took him away. I made my way across Rt 1 to

a
go-go bar known for serving minors. I drank heavily and played pool,

vaguely
aware that naked girls were smiling at me for dollars. I looked at their
bare breasts and saw only his big fried egg eyes. Somehow I got home,

puked
in the driveway, slept out back in a lawn chair and woke up in time for

work
the next morning.
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout

All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
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katysails August 22nd 04 09:13 PM

So that becomes the only protection...to put up something else for the
lightning to find so it won't find you...we should have put a flagpole up
next to the peach tree....

OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
Yeah, but the results show that if you stick a lightning rod up into a
thunderstorm, it is very likely that you will find lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:23:24 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

that was a different experiment!


OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
Nah, he was right!
He put a lightning rod up and found lightning.

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:21:02 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

So you're saying Ben Franklin was wrong?
Scout

OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 10:58:14 GMT, "Scout"
scribbled thusly:

How many folks have lightning "proofed" their boat?
Did you make your own modifications or buy a package? What systems

are
better than others?
Have you ever been hit?
Scout


No such thing as lightning protection, just attraction.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails August 22nd 04 09:31 PM

bad...very bad....
"Scout" wrote in message
...
maybe he "bolted"
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
The horse down the street disintegrated and all that was left were his

shoes
and the molten bits left of his halter...and a big greasy stinky black

char
mark...


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout

All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
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katysails August 22nd 04 09:33 PM

I'll be sure not to tell him...he was reading over my shoulder and has now
left to go pound on rocks in the backyard (at least, that's what it sounds
like he's doing...) I give him these little projects so he'll stay
happy...Busy hands are happy hands, you know....

"Scout" wrote in message
...
The doc said I'm fine except for the fact that I tend to want to talk

about
lightning a lot, which can really **** off a lot of people.
The bar is still open for business, although they have new girls there

now -
it's called The Red Raven and it's on Rt 1 in Fairless Hills.
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Well, that was truly gross.....was your psyche affected forever? And

Mr.
Sails wants to know "Where is this bar?"

"Scout" wrote in message
...
It was 30 years ago, almost to the day. I was an 18 year old tough guy
working a summer job to make some book money for college. I was

working
the
7AM-3PM shift at a factory called Strick Trailer. An August storm,

born
of
high heat and humidity, was upon us. A co-worker had ridden his

Harley
motorcycle to the factory that morning, but his wife, concerned for

his
safety, had driven the 60 miles from their home at the Jersey Shore to

pick
up him and his bike with their truck.
Ah, irony. At 3:05, as we ran to our cars to avoid the drenching, I

saw
him
loading his bike on the truck, when a flash was seen and a boom was

heard,
so loud that all the War Vets instinctively dropped to the asphalt. It

took
a second or two before I heard the screams of his wife. I ran over to

the
truck to help, as did a few others.
I'm no doctor, but this man was dead dead dead. His eyes looked like

big
fried eggs. He smelled like a cross between burning chemicals and

roast
beef. His hair and his clothes were smoking. His bike was charred, as

was
the back of his truck.
The ambulance showed up and took him away. I made my way across Rt 1

to
a
go-go bar known for serving minors. I drank heavily and played pool,

vaguely
aware that naked girls were smiling at me for dollars. I looked at

their
bare breasts and saw only his big fried egg eyes. Somehow I got home,

puked
in the driveway, slept out back in a lawn chair and woke up in time

for
work
the next morning.
Scout

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

well, from what I've seen, it's ugly but quick.
Scout

All right, I'll bite. Who was it, where, when, how, aftermath,
who cleaned up? SPare us none of the crusty crispy details.
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John Cairns August 23rd 04 12:41 AM

Where's the pity? AFAIK, if your boat is damaged by lightning your insurance
should cover it, a great way to upgrade your electronics without spending
any of your own money.
John Cairns
OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
The strikes in the marina, though very few, have all as far as I
recall been on protected boats.

Pity the ones alongside are affected by the discharge and also suffer
some damage to electronics.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




John Cairns August 23rd 04 12:56 AM

Depends on your policy. Even if you had to pay a $250 deductible, you would
be way ahead on the deal, especially if you have original equipment
electronics, like I have on my boat. In fact, I'm waiting for a strike,
being the cheapskate type that I am!
John Cairns
OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
True I guess..except for the excess....you call it a deductable,
right?

On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:41:40 GMT, "John Cairns"
scribbled thusly:

Where's the pity? AFAIK, if your boat is damaged by lightning your

insurance
should cover it, a great way to upgrade your electronics without spending
any of your own money.
John Cairns
OooooozeOne wrote in message
.. .
The strikes in the marina, though very few, have all as far as I
recall been on protected boats.

Pity the ones alongside are affected by the discharge and also suffer
some damage to electronics.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




katysails August 23rd 04 01:47 AM

Not so, says a voice of experience....when we had out little problem, the
adjustor said that they would only replace at the cost of 1986 instruments,
because that's what they were, and would not replace at the current
replacement cost. We were very PO'd (one of the reasons we've just now
finally got everything replaced).
"John Cairns" wrote in message
m...
Where's the pity? AFAIK, if your boat is damaged by lightning your

insurance
should cover it, a great way to upgrade your electronics without spending
any of your own money.
John Cairns
OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
The strikes in the marina, though very few, have all as far as I
recall been on protected boats.

Pity the ones alongside are affected by the discharge and also suffer
some damage to electronics.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.






John Cairns August 23rd 04 02:22 AM

Again, I think it depends on your policy. The first guy I used to crew with
had all of his instruments replaced free of charge by his insurer after a
lightning strike. You might consider looking at your policy and considering
replacing it with an another that covers replacement. I sailed with a gal on
"Quetzal" this past March that lost her boat in Isabel, she ddin't have an
agreed value policy, didn't collect enough money to replace the boat.
John Cairns
"katysails" wrote in message
...
Not so, says a voice of experience....when we had out little problem, the
adjustor said that they would only replace at the cost of 1986

instruments,
because that's what they were, and would not replace at the current
replacement cost. We were very PO'd (one of the reasons we've just now
finally got everything replaced).
"John Cairns" wrote in message
m...
Where's the pity? AFAIK, if your boat is damaged by lightning your

insurance
should cover it, a great way to upgrade your electronics without

spending
any of your own money.
John Cairns
OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
The strikes in the marina, though very few, have all as far as I
recall been on protected boats.

Pity the ones alongside are affected by the discharge and also suffer
some damage to electronics.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.









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