OooooozeOne wrote in message
| Most waterways are wide and easy to navigate and those that aren't
| usually have steep hills either side making radar virtually useless
| because you can easily see your path.

Okay,,, now you are sounding like Nav.... what you stated makes no sense at
all Ozzy!

Good radar will clear up that mess of lights and buoys you can't spot at
night in a hurry.

CM

OooooozeOne wrote in message
| Yep, but radar can't see around corners.

I call BULL****!

CM

OooooozeOne wrote:
On 20 Aug 2004 17:12:51 GMT, (Shen44) scribbled
thusly:


Nope... that I can't understand even at night... you folks have radar down
there? Does the sweep turn counter-clockwise? ;-)

Radar??
What for, we rarely have anything but clear skys.

G Interestin statement......


Yep, interesting alright.
Our waters are virtually free of traffic compared to yours, weather
conditions are clear all but a few days of the year, and even a thick
fog is nowhere near as thick as some of yours.
Most waterways are wide and easy to navigate and those that aren't
usually have steep hills either side making radar virtually useless
because you can easily see your path.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Either you've never used radar, or used it, but never learned how to use
it or make use of it.

otn

Subject: Docking Situation Question #1
From: "OooooozeOne
Date: 08/20/2004 16:49 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On 20 Aug 2004 17:12:51 GMT, (Shen44) scribbled
thusly:

Nope... that I can't understand even at night... you folks have radar down
there? Does the sweep turn counter-clockwise? ;-)

Radar??
What for, we rarely have anything but clear skys.

G Interestin statement......

Yep, interesting alright.
Our waters are virtually free of traffic compared to yours, weather
conditions are clear all but a few days of the year, and even a thick
fog is nowhere near as thick as some of yours.
Most waterways are wide and easy to navigate and those that aren't
usually have steep hills either side making radar virtually useless
because you can easily see your path.


In other words, you don't know much about radar. Ever used one?

Shen

OooooozeOne wrote in message
...
| On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:47:21 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| scribbled thusly:
|
|
| OooooozeOne wrote in message
| | Yep, but radar can't see around corners.
|
| I call BULL****!
|
| CM
|
| It can?
| WOW!
| I'd always though it would only return what it can 'see'

Well there you go.... that's your problem. It can "see" much more from it's
vantage 20 feet above the deck.

CM

Umm yep, and if you can see a path thru the returns then it'd be
great.
Unfortunately in that area there is no discernable path without the
colours of the nav aids. the rest are unmaked piles and other jun

Looking at the "chartlet" you sent, I can see your problem. However, it's no
different than many other places.
My only suggestion would be to run the area with radar in good conditions so
that you can get a feel for what the radar is showing versus what you see.
This can help to draw a "mind" picture of how your set shows various objects
and where the buoys are versus other junk.
Since they appear to be buoyed channels with nearby land, there should be a
visible path through.
Don't get hung up on using the lowest range scale .... use the one which shows
you the the greatest area (within reason ... i.e. you might want to be on 1.5
or 3 mi scale at times) so that so that your screen more closely resembles you
chart.

Shen

One other point here.
Although I'd normally agree that the radar should help show the buoys
against a land background and make your "path" clear, it's hard to judge
what you "do" see on "your" set against what we think you should see.
The point I'd stress, is "practice". Don't just use the radar when
conditions are bad. You need to use it frequently when conditions are
good, so that you learn to interpret what you see .... probably the
biggest problem most recreational (and a lot of professional) boaters
have using radar.

otn

Shen44 wrote:
Umm yep, and if you can see a path thru the returns then it'd be
great.
Unfortunately in that area there is no discernable path without the
colours of the nav aids. the rest are unmaked piles and other jun


Looking at the "chartlet" you sent, I can see your problem. However, it's no
different than many other places.
My only suggestion would be to run the area with radar in good conditions so
that you can get a feel for what the radar is showing versus what you see.
This can help to draw a "mind" picture of how your set shows various objects
and where the buoys are versus other junk.
Since they appear to be buoyed channels with nearby land, there should be a
visible path through.
Don't get hung up on using the lowest range scale .... use the one which shows
you the the greatest area (within reason ... i.e. you might want to be on 1.5
or 3 mi scale at times) so that so that your screen more closely resembles you
chart.

Shen

"Shen44" wrote in message

| My only suggestion would be to run the area with radar in good conditions
so
| that you can get a feel for what the radar is showing versus what you see.
| This can help to draw a "mind" picture of how your set shows various
objects
| and where the buoys are versus other junk.
| Since they appear to be buoyed channels with nearby land, there should be
a
| visible path through.
| Don't get hung up on using the lowest range scale .... use the one which
shows
| you the the greatest area (within reason ... i.e. you might want to be on
1.5
| or 3 mi scale at times) so that so that your screen more closely resembles
you
| chart.

Excellent Advise...... even though we all know you are usually down in the
engine room playing crib while the Wheel House sits unmanned! ;-)

CM

Excellent Advise...... even though we all know you are usually down in the
engine room playing crib while the Wheel House sits unmanned! ;-)

CM


Nah. Too bloody noisy down there.
We play in the "lounge" ..... where we have wired the alarms from the radar and
AIS to a bell. G

Shen

Spoken like a powerboater who "needs" radar on a sunny day.
You only need to run it once in a while, and understand how it
works. Most power boaters run it constantly for ego gratification.

"otnmbrd" wrote

The point I'd stress, is "practice". Don't just use the radar when
conditions are bad. You need to use it frequently when conditions are
good, so that you learn to interpret what you see .... probably the
biggest problem most recreational (and a lot of professional) boaters
have using radar.