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Difference between Lake and Salt water Sailing
Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on
my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could be a learning time for the "Teacher" Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in place. Out we went. Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop. Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about 100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to Zero. We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a great sail! We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint. necessary.) I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other hand am dam well happy for the able body crew Ole Thom |
Biggest differences, IMHO, lack of swell, just chop here in the Lakes, lack
of tides, and the huge difference, lack of corrosion. And, at least on our end of this Great Lake, lack of "clear" horizons. You have to go east of Cleveland before you can see an empty horizon. John Cairns "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could be a learning time for the "Teacher" Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in place. Out we went. Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop. Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about 100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to Zero. We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a great sail! We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint. necessary.) I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other hand am dam well happy for the able body crew Ole Thom |
Excellent Thom.... I too am an avid fan of full batten main and lazy jacks.
I believe you went to loose footed main as well didn't you? I have mine set up that way... except I envy you your roller furling Jib! Of course when anyone asks if I have one I generally leap deftly into my "Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female furling. ;-) CM "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... | Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on | my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can | see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps | and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could | be a learning time for the "Teacher" | | Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in | place. Out we went. | | Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and | heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a | Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop. | | Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about | 100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to | Zero. | | We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a | great sail! | | We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we | neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My | chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down | into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into | harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint. | necessary.) | I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other | hand am dam well happy for the able body crew | | Ole Thom | |
Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than
that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
Now Katy . ..be nice. You KNOW Lake Michigan is really an inland sea. Thom
converted me a long time ago. Full batten, loose foot, the works. That's why I'm taking the boat to Bellingham for haul out and hauling to GL. I want the 'teacher' to check me out on my new rig and give advice. /s/ Grasshopper "katysails" wrote in message ... Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
Katie,
Don't get your tit caugth in the ringer. I'm not knocking Lake sailing. I'm pointing out the difference between small lake craft and larger vessels, Hell, you have a larger boat than mine! Ot |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female furling. ;-) Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D |
Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less chafe. |
LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice
your knots! "Lady Pilot" wrote "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female furling. ;-) Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D |
You and LP need to hook up, and then give us a trip report later
with your findings. "JAXAshby" wrote Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less chafe. |
It's obvious Jaxxies suffers from "Porn Droop" and the entire tale would be
a flaccid accounting of a woman's dreams unfulfilled. CM "Bart Senior" wrote in message . net... | You and LP need to hook up, and then give us a trip report later | with your findings. | | "JAXAshby" wrote | | Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something | else? | | LP ;-D | | it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less | chafe. | | |
Which one is most appropriate for the situation?
Value = 1 pointy thing In article , Bart Senior wrote: LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice your knots! -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
A single-hand bowline....
CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | In article , | Bart Senior wrote: | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | your knots! | | -- | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | http://www.sailnow.com | "If there's no wind, row." | |
Be careful gentlemen,
You're talking knots she maybe refering to the; "BIG HITCH" |
There are two types of single hand bowlines. One is when you pass the line
behind you when, say, mountain climbing and tie it off with the strong hand only. In this case the line is fairly supported. The other is the tugboat bowline which is a marvel of flipping the running end in a magical motion that results in a bowline. People who can do the tugboat bowline are the pinnacle of knottists. But now name all the types of bowlines and don't forget. hint hint the Dragon Bowline. M. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... A single-hand bowline.... CM "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | In article , | Bart Senior wrote: | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | your knots! | | -- | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | http://www.sailnow.com | "If there's no wind, row." | |
A. for the subject below you got the wrong lady. B. For the original
topic: some years ago we had a discussion on the Great Lakes. Because of course Michigan has the longest coastline after Alaska. The Great Lakes qualify as 'inland seas.' For (points assigned by Bart) who can define the two requirements that make that a true statement? Katysails you sit this one out I KNOW you remember that conversation lo these many years ago. M. "Bart Senior" wrote in message . net... LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice your knots! "Lady Pilot" wrote "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female furling. ;-) Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D |
Did you mis spell the second word. I think it wnts a "B". But 'big' is
accurate. "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Be careful gentlemen, You're talking knots she maybe refering to the; "BIG HITCH" |
and pictures.
;) "Bart Senior" wrote in message . net... You and LP need to hook up, and then give us a trip report later with your findings. "JAXAshby" wrote Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less chafe. |
"John Cairns" wrote
. You have to go east of Cleveland before you can see an empty horizon. Is that where Horvath lives? |
I've only been to Lakes Erie and Ontario, but I'm wondering if navigation
from Erie to all but Ontario is possible. Could one sail from Western Pennsylvania to say, Chicago? or to Duluth? Anyone here done it? Scout "katysails" wrote in message ... Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
Well I'm not a pinnacle of marlinspike seamanship... but Old Capt. Haines
taught me the single hand bowline... told me it would be one of the most useful skills in knots to master. He was right. [What you refer to as the Tugboat Bowline] I've taught my crew and even my 6 year old niece can tie one now. CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | There are two types of single hand bowlines. One is when you pass the line | behind you when, say, mountain climbing and tie it off with the strong hand | only. In this case the line is fairly supported. The other is the tugboat | bowline which is a marvel of flipping the running end in a magical motion | that results in a bowline. People who can do the tugboat bowline are the | pinnacle of knottists. But now name all the types of bowlines and don't | forget. hint hint the Dragon Bowline. | | M. | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | A single-hand bowline.... | | CM | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | ... | | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | | | In article , | | Bart Senior wrote: | | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | | your knots! | | | | -- | | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | | http://www.sailnow.com | | "If there's no wind, row." | | | | | | |
"Capt. Mooron" wrote even my 6 year old niece can tie one on. runs in the family, eh? |
"Scout" wrote ... I've only been to Lakes Erie and Ontario, but I'm wondering if navigation from Erie to all but Ontario is possible. Could one sail from Western Pennsylvania to say, Chicago? or to Duluth? Nobody wants to. SV |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote | | even my 6 year old niece can tie one on. | | runs in the family, eh? Yup.... ;-) CM |
You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, including all of the
Great Lakes. John Cairns "Scout" wrote in message ... I've only been to Lakes Erie and Ontario, but I'm wondering if navigation from Erie to all but Ontario is possible. Could one sail from Western Pennsylvania to say, Chicago? or to Duluth? Anyone here done it? Scout |
"John Cairns" wrote in message ... You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. or Plowville, Scotty |
Well I thought that was understood, anywhere you can SAIL to.
John Cairns "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote in message ... You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. or Plowville, Scotty |
I'm seriously jealous. Took me 54 years to learn how. Getting to be a lost
art in my workplace though along with splicing etc. We don't do wire splices anymore at all. Hard to find younger deck crew who really learned the knots and how to splice. It's a constant teaching chore. Seriously you can tell who sails 'sails' and who sails steam and diesel by watching how they handle lines. The 'real' sailors shine and the others stick out like a sore thumb. M. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Well I'm not a pinnacle of marlinspike seamanship... but Old Capt. Haines taught me the single hand bowline... told me it would be one of the most useful skills in knots to master. He was right. [What you refer to as the Tugboat Bowline] I've taught my crew and even my 6 year old niece can tie one now. CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | There are two types of single hand bowlines. One is when you pass the line | behind you when, say, mountain climbing and tie it off with the strong hand | only. In this case the line is fairly supported. The other is the tugboat | bowline which is a marvel of flipping the running end in a magical motion | that results in a bowline. People who can do the tugboat bowline are the | pinnacle of knottists. But now name all the types of bowlines and don't | forget. hint hint the Dragon Bowline. | | M. | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | A single-hand bowline.... | | CM | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | ... | | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | | | In article , | | Bart Senior wrote: | | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | | your knots! | | | | -- | | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | | http://www.sailnow.com | | "If there's no wind, row." | | | | | | |
No one knows why the Great Lakes are inland seas? C'mon guys . . .. one
more day and I'll open the gates for that superior sailor and fount of nautical knowledge, the one the only Katysails! M. "John Cairns" wrote in message m... Well I thought that was understood, anywhere you can SAIL to. John Cairns "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote in message ... You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. or Plowville, Scotty |
I start all the "kids" out on basic knots. I test them on a regular basis.
Most of the young'uns have mastered the basic knots and are fluent by age 5. My nephew Jacob [13 years old] just impressed me last week with his first Turks head and Monkey's Fist. He can splice braid and I started him splicing triple strand hemp at 7 years old when he showed interest. He wants to learn how to braid a hemp fender now. That's beyond my ability.... Marlinspike Seamanship is indeed a dying art. I don't know about you guys but I do all my own splicing and rope work. All the young ones have been taught a real respect for rope. They will automatically coil and secure any loose rope ... even at the dock when it's not our cordage. No spaghetti on the Overproof.... lines are coiled and hung, ends are wound and stitched. I also teach them the art of rowing... not with the oarlocks .. but with pins.. you have to flair the blade to maintain it's bite and secure it to the gunwale under stroke. Now I have to master sculling.... and teach them before they learn by themselves and outdo me. They have a real thirst for knowledge if you make it fun. Most of them started sailing while in diapers... now they can handle the boat while I give the orders..... I've got 13 crew of dedicated sailors most of which can outsail their parents... that's a real bonus for me with a reserve crew trained.. up and coming. ;-) CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | I'm seriously jealous. Took me 54 years to learn how. Getting to be a lost | art in my workplace though along with splicing etc. We don't do wire | splices anymore at all. Hard to find younger deck crew who really learned | the knots and how to splice. It's a constant teaching chore. Seriously you | can tell who sails 'sails' and who sails steam and diesel by watching how | they handle lines. The 'real' sailors shine and the others stick out like a | sore thumb. | | M. | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | Well I'm not a pinnacle of marlinspike seamanship... but Old Capt. Haines | taught me the single hand bowline... told me it would be one of the most | useful skills in knots to master. He was right. | [What you refer to as the Tugboat Bowline] | | I've taught my crew and even my 6 year old niece can tie one now. | | CM | | | | | "Michael" wrote in message | ... | | There are two types of single hand bowlines. One is when you pass the | line | | behind you when, say, mountain climbing and tie it off with the strong | hand | | only. In this case the line is fairly supported. The other is the | tugboat | | bowline which is a marvel of flipping the running end in a magical | motion | | that results in a bowline. People who can do the tugboat bowline are | the | | pinnacle of knottists. But now name all the types of bowlines and don't | | forget. hint hint the Dragon Bowline. | | | | M. | | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | | ... | | A single-hand bowline.... | | | | CM | | | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | | ... | | | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | | | | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | | | | | In article , | | | Bart Senior wrote: | | | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | | | your knots! | | | | | | -- | | | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | | | http://www.sailnow.com | | | "If there's no wind, row." | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
The following are classified as Inland Seas:
Caspian Sea - 371,000sq km Lake Superior - 82.100 sq km Lake Victoria - 69,490 sq km Lake Huron - 59,600 sq km Lake Michigan - 57,800 sq km Lake Tanganyika - 32,900 sq km Great Bear Lake - 31,790 sq km Lake Baikal - 31,500 sq km Aral Sea - 31, 220 sq km Great Slave Lake - 28,570 sq km ;-)~~~~ come on folks... what's the tie between all of them? CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | No one knows why the Great Lakes are inland seas? C'mon guys . . .. one | more day and I'll open the gates for that superior sailor and fount of | nautical knowledge, the one the only Katysails! | | M. | | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | m... | Well I thought that was understood, anywhere you can SAIL to. | John Cairns | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message | ... | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | ... | You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, | | Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. | | or Plowville, Scotty | | | | | | |
water?
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... The following are classified as Inland Seas: Caspian Sea - 371,000sq km Lake Superior - 82.100 sq km Lake Victoria - 69,490 sq km Lake Huron - 59,600 sq km Lake Michigan - 57,800 sq km Lake Tanganyika - 32,900 sq km Great Bear Lake - 31,790 sq km Lake Baikal - 31,500 sq km Aral Sea - 31, 220 sq km Great Slave Lake - 28,570 sq km ;-)~~~~ come on folks... what's the tie between all of them? CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | No one knows why the Great Lakes are inland seas? C'mon guys . . ... one | more day and I'll open the gates for that superior sailor and fount of | nautical knowledge, the one the only Katysails! | | M. | | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | m... | Well I thought that was understood, anywhere you can SAIL to. | John Cairns | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message | ... | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | ... | You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, | | Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. | | or Plowville, Scotty | | | | | | |
TMI
"Capt. Mooron" wrote Most of them started sailing while in diapers... now I'm wearing them. CM |
Brilliant... now you sound like Jax... in diapers!
CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | water? | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | The following are classified as Inland Seas: | | Caspian Sea - 371,000sq km | Lake Superior - 82.100 sq km | Lake Victoria - 69,490 sq km | Lake Huron - 59,600 sq km | Lake Michigan - 57,800 sq km | Lake Tanganyika - 32,900 sq km | Great Bear Lake - 31,790 sq km | Lake Baikal - 31,500 sq km | Aral Sea - 31, 220 sq km | Great Slave Lake - 28,570 sq km | | ;-)~~~~ come on folks... what's the tie between all of them? | | CM | | | "Michael" wrote in message | ... | | No one knows why the Great Lakes are inland seas? C'mon guys . . | .. one | | more day and I'll open the gates for that superior sailor and | fount of | | nautical knowledge, the one the only Katysails! | | | | M. | | | | | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | | m... | | Well I thought that was understood, anywhere you can SAIL to. | | John Cairns | | "Scott Vernon" wrote in message | | ... | | | | "John Cairns" wrote in message | | ... | | You can sail to anywhere in the world from Lake Erie, | | | | Can't get to Bah Hahbah, not from there. | | | | or Plowville, Scotty | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
Capt. Mooron wrote:
;-)~~~~ come on folks... what's the tie between all of them? That you'd be unwise to eat fish from them? Well, except for Great Slave Lake, probably. Not much population density around it... oh wait do they dump the uranium mine tailings into it? Never mind............ DSK |
maybe that's why I've taken to sailing. my family seal is "ropemakers"
Scout "Michael" wrote in message ... I'm seriously jealous. Took me 54 years to learn how. Getting to be a lost art in my workplace though along with splicing etc. We don't do wire splices anymore at all. Hard to find younger deck crew who really learned the knots and how to splice. It's a constant teaching chore. Seriously you can tell who sails 'sails' and who sails steam and diesel by watching how they handle lines. The 'real' sailors shine and the others stick out like a sore thumb. M. "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Well I'm not a pinnacle of marlinspike seamanship... but Old Capt. Haines taught me the single hand bowline... told me it would be one of the most useful skills in knots to master. He was right. [What you refer to as the Tugboat Bowline] I've taught my crew and even my 6 year old niece can tie one now. CM "Michael" wrote in message ... | There are two types of single hand bowlines. One is when you pass the line | behind you when, say, mountain climbing and tie it off with the strong hand | only. In this case the line is fairly supported. The other is the tugboat | bowline which is a marvel of flipping the running end in a magical motion | that results in a bowline. People who can do the tugboat bowline are the | pinnacle of knottists. But now name all the types of bowlines and don't | forget. hint hint the Dragon Bowline. | | M. | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | A single-hand bowline.... | | CM | | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message | ... | | Which one is most appropriate for the situation? | | | | Value = 1 pointy thing | | | | In article , | | Bart Senior wrote: | | LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice | | your knots! | | | | -- | | Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) | | http://www.sailnow.com | | "If there's no wind, row." | | | | | | |
Cripes. Can't ANY of you lot recognise when you're being told to
get knotted? Bart Senior wrote: LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice your knots! "Lady Pilot" wrote "Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female furling. ;-) Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else? LP ;-D -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Join the chorus: http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
katysails wrote: Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn..... Katy, I get far worse than THom's tiddlers in my lake, and it's a helluva lot smaller than yours. AND the catamaran and skiff sailors love it, what's more... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Join the chorus: http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
OooooozeOne wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 21:56:51 +0930, Flying Tadpole scribbled thusly: Cripes. Can't ANY of you lot recognise when you're being told to get knotted? Merkins Timmy.... Well, that would explain the woolly views expressed here... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Henpecked? Harrassed? Harangued? Join the chorus: http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
OK Group,
I'll try to make myself understood about the difference between Lake and Salt water sailing. I, in no way, meant to put down the ability of Lake sailors. My friend Don, is a damn good sailor. He is a Hobie sailor. I have no dought in my mind that he has sailed in conditions much more severe than those I described and enjoyed the hell out of it. What the difference was the vessel being sailed. In his lake sailing he didn't have to worry about a capsize. That was part of the fun. The unknown was putting a boat with a galley, sleeping quarters, An inboard engine etc over. He is just learning what a Keel boat can take. Sorry, again a cruising keel boat. He is new to that type of sailing. You Great Lake sailors and Inland Lake Cruising sailors weren't meant to be slighted Ole Thom |
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