Difference between Lake and Salt water Sailing
 

Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on
my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can
see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps
and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could
be a learning time for the "Teacher"

Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in
place. Out we went.

Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and
heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a
Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop.

Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about
100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to
Zero.

We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a
great sail!

We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we
neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My
chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down
into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into
harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint.
necessary.)
I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other
hand am dam well happy for the able body crew

Ole Thom

Biggest differences, IMHO, lack of swell, just chop here in the Lakes, lack
of tides, and the huge difference, lack of corrosion. And, at least on our
end of this Great Lake, lack of "clear" horizons. You have to go east of
Cleveland before you can see an empty horizon.
John Cairns
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on
my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can
see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps
and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could
be a learning time for the "Teacher"

Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in
place. Out we went.

Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and
heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a
Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop.

Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about
100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to
Zero.

We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a
great sail!

We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we
neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My
chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down
into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into
harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint.
necessary.)
I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other
hand am dam well happy for the able body crew

Ole Thom

Excellent Thom.... I too am an avid fan of full batten main and lazy jacks.
I believe you went to loose footed main as well didn't you? I have mine set
up that way... except I envy you your roller furling Jib!

Of course when anyone asks if I have one I generally leap deftly into my
"Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female
furling. ;-)

CM



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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| Went out sailing last evening with my new crewman. He came knocking on
| my door to inform me there was good wind blowing out on the Bay. We can
| see it from our house on the hill. It was blowing like stink. White Caps
| and about a 2 ft Chop. I wouldn't have gone out but figured this could
| be a learning time for the "Teacher"
|
| Let him set sail at the slip. Just eased the Lazy Jacks but left them in
| place. Out we went.
|
| Cleared the harbor mark and into wind. "Pneuma" lifted her skirt and
| heeled about 35 degrees. My lake sailor turned white. A capsize on a
| Hobie isn't the same as on a 29 foot pilothouse sloop.
|
| Showed him about Main Sail twist and furled the head sail down to about
| 100% from the 154. Pneuma came up on her lines (15 degrees) helm to
| Zero.
|
| We sailed about 21/2 hrs, dodging gill nets from the fishermen. It was a
| great sail!
|
| We headed in Wing on Wing, with the preventer set on the boom. As we
| neared the harbor he wanted to head into the wind to drop sail. My
| chance to teach about Lazy Jacks, He pulled the full batten main down
| into the jacks, Started the engine and left in neutral and sail into
| harbor with head sail (My furler isn't working to well. Little Maint.
| necessary.)
| I have another convert to full batten--Lazy Jack system) I on the other
| hand am dam well happy for the able body crew
|
| Ole Thom
|

Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than
that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn.....

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Now Katy . ..be nice. You KNOW Lake Michigan is really an inland sea. Thom
converted me a long time ago. Full batten, loose foot, the works. That's
why I'm taking the boat to Bellingham for haul out and hauling to GL. I
want the 'teacher' to check me out on my new rig and give advice.

/s/ Grasshopper


"katysails" wrote in message
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Yeah, Thom...your "lake" sailor sails itty bitty lakes...we get worse than
that on Lake Michigan all the time...yawn.....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Katie,

Don't get your tit caugth in the ringer. I'm not knocking Lake sailing.
I'm pointing out the difference between small lake craft and larger
vessels, Hell, you have a larger boat than mine!

Ot

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of female
furling. ;-)

Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else?

LP ;-D

Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else?

LP ;-D


it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less
chafe.

LP is telling us she likes to be tied up. Gentlemen practice
your knots!

"Lady Pilot" wrote

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Purist" mode and go on endlessly about hank-ons and the dangers of
female
furling. ;-)

Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something else?

LP ;-D

You and LP need to hook up, and then give us a trip report later
with your findings.

"JAXAshby" wrote

Why would any sailor want to roll up and secure a woman to something
else?

LP ;-D

it makes for interesting foreplay. btw, use velcro fender straps for less
chafe.