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Bobsprit August 13th 04 04:15 PM

IF you care....
 
IF YOU care about stem cell research and the eventual cures of thousands of
ailments...
IF YOU care about our environment and the waters we sail in....
IF YOU care about those less fortunate....
IF YOU care about equality....

VOTE KERRY!!!!

Sorry for the outburst. I know quite a few republicans and NONE are voting Bush
again. Things are looking up.

RB

John Deere August 13th 04 06:06 PM

IF you care....
 
Bobsprit wrote:

IF YOU care about stem cell research and the eventual cures of thousands

of
ailments...


You can still do whatever with embryonic stem cells and private money, just
not with US taxpayer funds. You can also do the research in Europe. No
problem. You can also do all the adult stem cell and cord blood stem cell
research you want, which actually looks more promising now.

IF YOU care about our environment and the waters we sail in....


The cleanest (populated) countries in the world are also the wealthiest
countries in the world. That's not a coincidence. The first priority for
any environmentalist therefo keep your country wealthy, because wealthly
people are the only ones who have the time to care about preserving nature.

IF YOU care about those less fortunate....


Just don't impoverish their employers with high taxes. Nobody ever got a
good job from a poor person. Business owners (the rich) don't hide their
money in a mattress. They expand their business or invest it in another
business somehow. That's where jobs come from, moron.

IF YOU care about equality....


Republicans don't give extra points for black, brown, and red skin, and
take away points for yellow skin, as the liberal administration of UC
Berkeley once did, and would like to do again.


VOTE KERRY!!!!

Sorry for the outburst. I know quite a few republicans and NONE are

voting Bush
again.


I know you wouldn't intentionally mislead us, but the best pollsters all
say that disgruntled Republicans will stay home, rather than vote for John
Kerry. That, or they were never really Republicans. Most Republicans
staying home would say that Bush is too soft on immigration and federal
spending, and that's why he doesn't deserve a second term, cutting off
their noses to spite their faces. The Bush-haters on the right are
disgusted with him because he's a "reckless spendthrift" and refuses "clamp
down on" (deport) illegal Mexican immigrants fast enough. That's the bug up
their ass.


Things are looking up.


Were you in Cambodia too?


RB





SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 07:23 PM

IF you care....
 
,,,I know quite a few republicans and NONE are voting Bush again.

That's a boldface lie. Things are looking bleak for the phony from Mass.
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SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 07:30 PM

IF you care....
 
What a joke.

IF YOU care about stem cell research and the eventual cures of thousands of
ailments...

Even the people who do the research state that they are a long way from
needing lots of stem sells.

IF YOU care about our environment and the waters we sail in....

Like Kerry cares more. He flys in a private jet every day wasting fuel and
smoking up the air.

IF YOU care about those less fortunate....

How many homeless have the WEALTHY Kerry's had over for dinner? How many
ketchup plants has Ms. Kerry moved to Mexico?

IF YOU care about equality....

Yea, everybody other than Democrats are racists. I'll bet the steward on the
Kerry's private jet is black. Go away.
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Jonathan Ganz August 13th 04 09:30 PM

IF you care....
 
In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
,,,I know quite a few republicans and NONE are voting Bush again.

That's a boldface lie. Things are looking bleak for the phony from Mass.


Things are looking so bleak that Kerry is ahead in just about every
pole, including the snapshot of the electoral vote. Even the press is
starting to realize it.

The economy is slowing down, the markets are down, unemployment isn't
recovering, the war is going badly.... Bush is outta here.



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Jonathan Ganz August 13th 04 09:34 PM

IF you care....
 
You're the joke if you believe this... it's just not factually
accurate. In fact, the opposite is true.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
What a joke.

IF YOU care about stem cell research and the eventual cures of thousands of
ailments...

Even the people who do the research state that they are a long way from
needing lots of stem sells.


Like Bush and Cheney who would have us drill in the Alaskan wilderness
preserve, or like their friends in the oil industry, or riding around
in AF1 or AF2 back and forth to Crawford instead of taking care of
business. Or, were you talking about criss-crossing the country to
campaign?

IF YOU care about our environment and the waters we sail in....

Like Kerry cares more. He flys in a private jet every day wasting fuel and
smoking up the air.

IF YOU care about those less fortunate....

How many homeless have the WEALTHY Kerry's had over for dinner? How many
ketchup plants has Ms. Kerry moved to Mexico?


How about Bush? Cheney? How many of their supporters have? (Maybe
their athletic supporters.)

IF YOU care about equality....

Yea, everybody other than Democrats are racists. I'll bet the steward on the
Kerry's private jet is black. Go away.


This is just plain stupid.

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SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 11:14 PM

IF you care....
 
You're the joke if you believe this... it's just not factually
accurate. In fact, the opposite is true.

If your talking about the stem cell issue you don't know what your talking
about. There was just a piece done on the news that interviewed reserchers
involved in the stem cell business who admitted they didn't need loads of fetus
tissue at this point. Read up on the topic.
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SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 11:17 PM

IF you care....
 
The economy is slowing down, the markets are down, unemployment isn't
recovering, the war is going badly.... Bush is outta here.

The only truth here is that the market is down. Oh wait, it finished up today.
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SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 11:19 PM

IF you care....
 
Like Bush and Cheney who would have us drill in the Alaskan wilderness
preserve, or like their friends in the oil industry, or riding around
in AF1 or AF2 back and forth to Crawford instead of taking care of
business.

Read up man. The amount of space that's desired in Alaska for drilling amounts
to a pin prick on a basketball court. Typical tree hugger scare tactics.
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SAIL LOCO August 13th 04 11:21 PM

IF you care....
 
Kerry is a Mass. blueblood. Grew up wealthy, married wealthier twice. He's a
big ass phony pretending to relate to the common middle class folk. That's as
phony as his war medals.
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Capt. Mooron August 13th 04 11:35 PM

IF you care....
 
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| Read up man. The amount of space that's desired in Alaska for drilling
amounts
| to a pin prick on a basketball court. Typical tree hugger scare tactics.

As usual you have no friggin' clue about the subject... you don't have the
faintest idea of the logistics or development required to set up these
units.

If you did have any notion whatsoever regarding Arctic Exploration and
Geo-Thermally Sensitive Soils in the Permafrost Regions.... let alone the
scope of the project and it's wide ranging effect on the Flora & Fauna ....
you wouldn't once agin find yourself waxing idiotic on this topic.

....and yes Loco... I do friggin' well know what I'm talking about! You on
the other hand would be laughed off the site with comments like that. Even
the Push & the Roughnecks on the rigs know better..... never mind the supply
and support teams.

Pin Prick... Bwahahahahahahahahaaa

CM



Jonathan Ganz August 13th 04 11:56 PM

IF you care....
 
SL, they don't need fetus material because they want to use
cord material. This has nothing to do with a fetus.

You need to read up on the topic.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
You're the joke if you believe this... it's just not factually
accurate. In fact, the opposite is true.

If your talking about the stem cell issue you don't know what your talking
about. There was just a piece done on the news that interviewed reserchers
involved in the stem cell business who admitted they didn't need loads of fetus
tissue at this point. Read up on the topic.
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"Trains are a winter sport"



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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 12:00 AM

IF you care....
 
Assuming that's true, which it isn't, then why drill at all?
It makes no sense. A much better solution is to improve the
fuel efficiency of cars. That alone would have dramatic
changes in our dependence on foreign oil. We need to move
away from an oil-based dependency, and as typical capitalist
entities, the oil companies are spending big $$ for research
just along those lines. They *know* that oil is a limited
resource and that the prices will probably continue to rise
over time. They're hedging their bets quite rightly.

Your comments smack of right-wing tactics, which have little
or nothing to do with the realities of the situation. Totally
fear-based, must worse than any tree hugger as you put it.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
Like Bush and Cheney who would have us drill in the Alaskan wilderness
preserve, or like their friends in the oil industry, or riding around
in AF1 or AF2 back and forth to Crawford instead of taking care of
business.

Read up man. The amount of space that's desired in Alaska for drilling amounts
to a pin prick on a basketball court. Typical tree hugger scare tactics.
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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 12:01 AM

IF you care....
 
Exactly! Nothing to say when confronted with actual facts.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
,,How about Bush? Cheney? How many of their supporters have? (Maybe
their athletic supporters.)

No answer!
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Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 12:01 AM

IF you care....
 
At least you don't deny it. :-)

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
This is just plain stupid.


No answer either.
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Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 12:03 AM

IF you care....
 
As opposed to the Bushs? He was not particularly well off compared
to his classmates, and especially not compared to the Bushs. Bush
is from Mass also, but pretends to be from Texas.

Bush has no war medals, but he's got a DUI. No bull**** there.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
Kerry is a Mass. blueblood. Grew up wealthy, married wealthier twice. He's a
big ass phony pretending to relate to the common middle class folk. That's as
phony as his war medals.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"



--
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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 12:06 AM

IF you care....
 
The economy is definitely slowing, every respectable economist
says so, as does the gov't itself. The markets are way, way down,
but I can see how you'd think a single day being slightly up
means that the market is now up. There were only 32K jobs created
recently, and the previous high numbers have been or will be
revised down. The trend is down, as anyone can see if you bother
to look. The war is out of control. Thanks Bush.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
The economy is slowing down, the markets are down, unemployment isn't
recovering, the war is going badly.... Bush is outta here.

The only truth here is that the market is down. Oh wait, it finished up today.
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"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath August 14th 04 12:34 AM

IF you care....
 
On 13 Aug 2004 15:15:12 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

IF YOU care about stem cell research and the eventual cures of thousands of
ailments...
IF YOU care about our environment and the waters we sail in....
IF YOU care about those less fortunate....
IF YOU care about equality....

VOTE KERRY!!!!

Sorry for the outburst. I know quite a few republicans and NONE are voting Bush
again. Things are looking up.


If they're voting for Bush, they're not republicans, dumbass.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 01:32 AM

IF you care....
 
Never hear of Reagan democrats? If you're going to
continue to be stupid, please do it in private.

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
If they're voting for Bush, they're not republicans, dumbass.


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"If there's no wind, row."


SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:22 AM

IF you care....
 
Exactly! Nothing to say when confronted with actual facts..

What a dummy. My "no answer" posts were in response to your waste "This is
just plain stupid." comments. I posted facts.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:23 AM

IF you care....
 
How about Bush? Cheney? How many of their supporters have? (Maybe
their athletic supporters.

That's another inteligent response. That's why I posted "no answer"
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:25 AM

IF you care....
 
,As usual you have no friggin' clue about the subject... you don't have
the
faintest idea of the logistics or development required to set up these
units.

If you did have any notion whatsoever regarding Arctic Exploration and
Geo-Thermally Sensitive Soils in the Permafrost Regions.... let alone the
scope of the project and it's wide ranging effect on the Flora & Fauna ....
you wouldn't once agin find yourself waxing idiotic on this topic.

....and yes Loco... I do friggin' well know what I'm talking about! You on
the other hand would be laughed off the site with comments like that.

Horse****. You don't know more than the experts I've seen interviewed and
read about.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:27 AM

IF you care....
 
Your comments smack of right-wing tactics, which have little
or nothing to do with the realities of the situation. Totally
fear-based, must worse than any tree hugger as you put it.

Ain't you calling the kettle ..........
Nobody uses scare tactics more than the liberal left. Oh gee if the repubs get
in old people will be on the streets, kids will starve and be kicked out of
school and Alaska will melt. Get off that horse.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:28 AM

IF you care....
 
A much better solution is to improve the fuel efficiency of cars.

Hell with that. I want 10 cyl. Vipers to come down in price so everyone can
afford one.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:29 AM

IF you care....
 
,Bush has no war medals, but he's got a DUI. No bull**** there.

Right. At least he earned it.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 02:31 AM

IF you care....
 
Job growth has been up every month in the US except at Heinz.
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Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 03:06 AM

IF you care....
 
No you didn't. You posted nothing. You're the dummy, apparently.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
Exactly! Nothing to say when confronted with actual facts..

What a dummy. My "no answer" posts were in response to your waste "This is
just plain stupid." comments. I posted facts.
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Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 03:07 AM

IF you care....
 
You're right. They don't need athletic supporters... they
have no balls.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
How about Bush? Cheney? How many of their supporters have? (Maybe
their athletic supporters.

That's another inteligent response. That's why I posted "no answer"
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"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 03:13 AM

IF you care....
 
Reminds me of another joke...

A mouse gets caught in the mud. Finally an elephant hears
his crys for help, leans over and lets the mouse climb up
his dick to safety. Several weeks go by, and coincidently
the very same elephant himself gets caught in the mud and
the very same mouse hears his crys for help. So, the mouse
runs into town, gets in a porshe, roars back, and pulls
the elephant free. The moral of the story is that if you
have big dick, you don't need a porshe.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
A much better solution is to improve the fuel efficiency of cars.

Hell with that. I want 10 cyl. Vipers to come down in price so everyone can
afford one.
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"Trains are a winter sport"



--
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"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 03:14 AM

IF you care....
 
Well, at least you admit that the current President
of the United States is a drunk.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
,Bush has no war medals, but he's got a DUI. No bull**** there.

Right. At least he earned it.
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"Trains are a winter sport"



--
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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 14th 04 03:15 AM

IF you care....
 
Sure... but has not improved to the point where there
are more jobs than when Bush took office... the only
other president was Hoover who allowed this to happen.

In article ,
SAIL LOCO wrote:
Job growth has been up every month in the US except at Heinz.
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--
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"If there's no wind, row."


Capt. Mooron August 14th 04 04:03 AM

IF you care....
 

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| Horse****. You don't know more than the experts I've seen interviewed
and
| read about.

You sound like Horvath now Loco... truly fitting to see you reduced to
babbling such nonsense.

That you've "seen interviewed"... Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

Is it your policy to open your yap just to change feet??

Come on Loco... come up with another gem of verbal excrement.

That you've "read about"???... Too Choice!!!

Now you want to argue Arctic Exploration with a Senior Geotechnician
specializing in remote logistics and permafrost engineering!!??? .... all
because you saw something about it on the tube and read a magazine??!!!
I've got over 20 years of on the ground arctic experience in exploration,
engineering logistics, project supervision, geotechnical engineering,
drilling, and construction.... you friggin' simpleton!

Bar none you are one of the dumbest posters on this group.

It would have been better for you just to shut your friggin' mouth in the
first place... because it's obvious you are brain dead!

Now run off and play with your cat.... you IDIOT!

CM



SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 05:59 AM

IF you care....
 
,You're right. They don't need athletic supporters... they have no balls.

LOL.................. Kerry got out of Viet Nam in 4 months. He's the only
living person that I know of who pulled that off.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 06:01 AM

IF you care....
 
It would have been better for you just to shut your friggin' mouth in the
first place... because it's obvious you are brain dead!.

LOL................. Why not take your liberal political whining to another
board.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 06:03 AM

IF you care....
 
,Well, at least you admit that the current President
of the United States is a drunk.


No, what I'll admit is that he is a regular guy who got loaded in college.
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SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 06:06 AM

IF you care....
 
Sure... but has not improved to the point where there
are more jobs than when Bush took office... the only
other president was Hoover who allowed this to happen.

You gotta be a real nitwit to believe Bush got into office and turned the
economy south. It takes a while for policy to have an effect on the economy.
EVERY economist has stated the economy was on it's way down before Clinton
left. As far as your Hoover comment goes I guess you never heard of a fellow
named Carter.
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Capt. Mooron August 14th 04 03:28 PM


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| LOL................. Why not take your liberal political whining to
another
| board.

Woooooo...... such biting wit!
Did you see that reply format in an interview ... or read about it
somewhere?

I see you once again dropped your jaw to change feet since I posted no
political agenda in my reply. .... it was only you who posted political
Loca. Unlike your paltry attempt at intelligent discourse..... I simply
felt obligated to once more correct you on yet another topic you have no
clue about..... but feel strangely compelled to comment on despite your
blindingly obvious ignorance.

It's no wonder Bobsprit dedicated so much time to slap you around all these
years.
You are without doubt as dumb as a sack of hammers!

No off you go... maybe your wife will make you some more Crabcakes!

CM




SAIL LOCO August 14th 04 07:56 PM

Posting that someone is dumb after they post facts that make you look silly is
always the thing to do when your a whining liberal.
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Capt. Mooron August 14th 04 09:49 PM


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Posting that someone is dumb after they post facts that make you look
silly is
| always the thing to do when your a whining liberal.

Considering your facts amount to listening to an interview and reading a
magazine... I think I'll just comfortably stand ground and allow you to
choke on your own verbal vomitus. At least Horvath occasionally posts
something that can be generously interpreted as having some bearing in fact.
You on the other hand are totally clueless on all subjects.

BTW - why do you assume I am a Liberal? I've been the one out in the field,
gleefully raping the environment and cashing in on the profits. You're just
a house bound consumer of no significance who couldn't tell a lacustrine
deposit from a seismic line. Just don't try and pass off bull**** you think
might be correct and then question your betters when they courteously try
and set you straight on some obvious facts.

In other words Loco..... keep your yap shut and your ears open... if you
have any questions just ask me and I'll set you straight as usual.

CM



SAIL LOCO August 15th 04 01:33 AM

,In other words Loco..... keep your yap shut and your ears open... if you
have any questions just ask me and I'll set you straight as usual.

LOL................ your too full of yourself telling me to keep my yap
shut. I'd like to meet your little ass in a bar some night.
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