Hey I hear lots of talk about how Kerry's voting record is very Liberal and
grounds for not voting for him.
I have not been able to find a list of the record, that is considered to be
bad.

Anyone know what they are talking about or a link that lists them?

I have heard one or two specific ones, but nothing that would constitute a
list.

Inquiring Minds What to Know!!

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 11:06:29 -0500, "FamilySailor" wrote:

Hey I hear lots of talk about how Kerry's voting record is very Liberal and
grounds for not voting for him.
I have not been able to find a list of the record, that is considered to be
bad.

Anyone know what they are talking about or a link that lists them?

I have heard one or two specific ones, but nothing that would constitute a
list.

Inquiring Minds What to Know!!


One of the better places to look that I have come across is

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...sig_id=002927M

If you click on the individual's name, it will provide you with a fair
amount of detail that you might find helpful.

Those actual "rankings" are compiled by the National Journal, as I
understand it, but I think you have to be a subscriber to get their
details.

On 04 Aug 2004 17:40:09 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

You want to see his voting record.

JOHN KERRY VOTING RECORD: THE LIST

The list as compiled and described by whom? You clearly fall into the
group, "you can fool some of the people all of the time". If you
really think you are getting a "fair and balanced" look at Kerry
through whatever Fox News/Ralph Reed/Sean Hannity/Karl Rove group that
put that together then you need to steer clear of sharp objects.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=177

By the way, what was the source of your "list"?

Excellent! ;-)

An excellent, well not so excellent, fabrication.

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Excellent! ;-)

Now the liberals are saying his voting record doesn't
matter? Huh? That is the most solid evidence of
who he is.

Librals only think we can only get a "Fair and balanced"
view of Kerry from his web site.

It just proves how stupid liberals are to believe in a Kook
like Kerry.

His voting record proves what an extremist liberal Kerry is.


"felton" wrote

On 04 Aug 2004 17:40:09 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

You want to see his voting record.

JOHN KERRY VOTING RECORD: THE LIST

The list as compiled and described by whom? You clearly fall into the
group, "you can fool some of the people all of the time". If you
really think you are getting a "fair and balanced" look at Kerry
through whatever Fox News/Ralph Reed/Sean Hannity/Karl Rove group that
put that together then you need to steer clear of sharp objects.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=177

By the way, what was the source of your "list"?

Bart Senior wrote:
Now the liberals are saying his voting record doesn't
matter? Huh? That is the most solid evidence of
who he is.

I'd say his voting record *does* matter, as does his authorship &
sponsorship of bills. However, lies about his (or any other candidates)
voting record ought to not matter much, unless of course you are going
to hold the liar accountable.

But then, you are on record as believing that any horrible distortion of
fact is "true" as long it slanders somebody you consider "liberal" or
compliments somebody you consider "conservative." Observable facts from
the real world don't seem to enter the picture.



His voting record proves what an extremist liberal Kerry is.

Actually, his *real* voting record proves nothing of the kind.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103

On scale where 0= very conservative and 100= very liberal, Kerry is
ranked at 63. Elizabeth Dole is ranked 22. John Edwards is ranked 93, if
you're going to rant about "extremist liberals" he is a much more likely
target. Our Congressman David Price, who is a money-grubbing weasel with
few peers, rates 73.

DSK

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:13:54 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

Now the liberals are saying his voting record doesn't
matter? Huh? That is the most solid evidence of
who he is.

Librals only think we can only get a "Fair and balanced"
view of Kerry from his web site.

It just proves how stupid liberals are to believe in a Kook
like Kerry.

His voting record proves what an extremist liberal Kerry is.

As I was reading one of these sites today, there was a quote from the
late Sen. Patrick Moynihan...

"Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

That is the glaring problem with the sort of simple minded crap that
you right wing kooks put forth. You are so afraid of opinions formed
on *actual* facts that you put forth this sort of silliness and claim
it to be factual. It doesn't bother me if others reach different
conclusions about the *actual* facts, but the obvious efforts to
disguise and hide the true facts leads to the inescapable conclusion
that the truth frightens you.

Why don't you make some minimal effort to check these claims..

http://www.factcheck.org/default.aspx

That might prove interesting to those with the intellectual integrity
to actually read and think rather than just parrot. It is a
nonpartisan group and puts both sides under the microscope.




"felton" wrote

On 04 Aug 2004 17:40:09 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote:

You want to see his voting record.

JOHN KERRY VOTING RECORD: THE LIST

The list as compiled and described by whom? You clearly fall into the
group, "you can fool some of the people all of the time". If you
really think you are getting a "fair and balanced" look at Kerry
through whatever Fox News/Ralph Reed/Sean Hannity/Karl Rove group that
put that together then you need to steer clear of sharp objects.

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=177

By the way, what was the source of your "list"?

Not true. The facts speak for themselves.

Liberalism is based on lies. The end justifies the means,
so there are no holds bared.

Kerry's record proves he is not only an extremist liberal,
but solidly at the far edge of the spectrum and his voting
record proves it--even using your own rating system the
guy had mostly 100's and 0's in the ratings.

Think about what 0's and 100's mean! It means he either
extremist conservative or extremist liberal. And we know
which one he is--extremist liberal. He never sees the
middle ground.

"DSK" wrote
Bart Senior wrote:
Now the liberals are saying his voting record doesn't
matter? Huh? That is the most solid evidence of
who he is.

I'd say his voting record *does* matter, as does his authorship &
sponsorship of bills. However, lies about his (or any other candidates)
voting record ought to not matter much, unless of course you are going
to hold the liar accountable.

But then, you are on record as believing that any horrible distortion of
fact is "true" as long it slanders somebody you consider "liberal" or
compliments somebody you consider "conservative." Observable facts from
the real world don't seem to enter the picture.



His voting record proves what an extremist liberal Kerry is.

Actually, his *real* voting record proves nothing of the kind.

http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rati...an_id=S0421103

On scale where 0= very conservative and 100= very liberal, Kerry is
ranked at 63. Elizabeth Dole is ranked 22. John Edwards is ranked 93, if
you're going to rant about "extremist liberals" he is a much more likely
target. Our Congressman David Price, who is a money-grubbing weasel with
few peers, rates 73.

DSK

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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Not true. The facts speak for themselves.

....

Think about what 0's and 100's mean! It means he either
extremist conservative or extremist liberal. And we know
which one he is--extremist liberal. He never sees the
middle ground.

Doesn't that mean the Republicans are lying when they call him a flip-flopper?