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gonefishiing August 1st 04 04:44 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
was anyone else out on long island sound yesterday?
it was blowing like stink all day.
just returned last night. spent the night aboard only to wake up to rain
today.

if i didn't have to be back, we could have made block island in record time.
as it was, we spun the boat around and headed for home on a close haul all
day.

something i have encounter a number of times on the sound: when the wind is
out of the west--south west, it always seems to gain strength the closer i
get to the western edge of the sound. i suspect it has to do with how narrow
the area around throgs neck is, relative to the rest of the sound.

has anyone else experienced this



Jonathan Ganz August 1st 04 05:30 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
Fishboy, what kind of sailboat?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
was anyone else out on long island sound yesterday?
it was blowing like stink all day.
just returned last night. spent the night aboard only to wake up to rain
today.

if i didn't have to be back, we could have made block island in record

time.
as it was, we spun the boat around and headed for home on a close haul all
day.

something i have encounter a number of times on the sound: when the wind

is
out of the west--south west, it always seems to gain strength the closer i
get to the western edge of the sound. i suspect it has to do with how

narrow
the area around throgs neck is, relative to the rest of the sound.

has anyone else experienced this





gonefishiing August 1st 04 09:47 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
didn't get near CT and so didn't see the kites
closed we came was one long tack which placed us outside larchmont.
stuck along the long island side (fewer rocks to deal with!........aka: lazy
man's navigation)
from coldspring harbor we headed to seacliff to hang out at the yacht club
there and use the swimming pool only to find out they had no moorings
available, i believe it was due to the end of the around long island race.

given the weather, i didn't have the temerity to drop anchor, and pointed
for home (city island). by this time (4:00 pm or so) there where few boats
out and most that were out, were motoring with bare poles.
gf

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 11:44:35 -0400, "gonefishiing" wrote:
The LIS was indeed honking yesterday. We got a late start at around 11:00

AM.
The first hour or two it was blowing about 12 knots more or less, with

fairly
flat seas. By 3:00, it was blowing about 20 knots, with frequent higher

gusts,
and the seas picked up accordingly.

It was a great sail from near Milford, up to Hammonassett Beach and back

with
beautiful weather. Tons of sailboats were out. At Hammonassett Beach,

someone
was flying a giant kite that resembled an octopus. Rough guess is that,

with
tentacles, it must have been about 50 feet long and 10 feet high. There

were
other, much smaller kites doing aerobatics.

BB




gonefishiing August 1st 04 10:07 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

gf.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, what kind of sailboat?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





SamSpade August 1st 04 10:37 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
gonefishiing wrote:
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

ghost? Are you boobie's evil twin?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, I have no need of a sailboat in my gay lifestyle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





Scott Vernon August 2nd 04 12:37 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
didn't get near CT and so didn't see the kites
closed we came was one long tack which placed us outside larchmont.
stuck along the long island side (fewer rocks to deal with!........aka:

lazy
man's navigation)


Yup, gotta watch out for them LIS rocks. I hear they can bite.


from coldspring harbor we headed to seacliff to hang out at the yacht club
there and use the swimming pool only to find out they had no moorings
available, i believe it was due to the end of the around long island race.



Funny, there was a ****** who used to post here, bragged and bragged about
doing the ALI race, but then chickened out on it.


out and most that were out, were motoring with bare poles.



Were any of them sailing up wind?

SV


gonefishiing August 2nd 04 03:10 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
oops a typo: 1976 pearson 30 hull #840

no not a bobsprit twin
but i do know bob----sailing neighbor so to speak, although i have not seen
him for about 2 years.
BTW: i thought bob sold ghost?
gf.


"SamSpade" wrote in message
.. .
gonefishiing wrote:
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

ghost? Are you boobie's evil twin?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, I have no need of a sailboat in my gay lifestyle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com







gonefishiing August 2nd 04 03:53 AM

a honking day on LIS
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

Yup, gotta watch out for them LIS rocks. I hear they can bite.


can and do. not any different than anywhere else: just didn't feel like
dealing with it, as i don't know the CT coast well.and it was the last
weekend with my daughter (crew) for the next month and a half: thought i'd
rather enjoy the sail with her: and a serious sail it was. this thirteen
year old can steer a course with ease. knows every piece of gear on the
boat, and understands when something has a sense of urgency and simply does
what needs to get done. although she was disapointed when she realized being
on deck was not the thing to do this day--some time at the helm offered some
alternate enthusiam.

i suspect she is a reasonable republican, but she'll decide that on her
own. in any event she can sail circles around the logic of a ganz.

Funny, there was a ****** who used to post here, bragged and bragged about
doing the ALI race, but then chickened out on it.


ahh ok..........the bait?
nah but thanks.

Were any of them sailing up wind

.......more bait, i see.
think it was a combination of things: dark storm clouds to the
northwest----flying to the north of where we were, and the water ahead was
being cut by the wind sending spray into the air and looking nearly like fog
to the west. actually at one point forming a rainbow just south of
manhasset.
the skies and weather patterns have been crazy lately????
sailing? no: they were motoring home at the end of the weekend (wind on the
nose)

me/us?....we chose to have some fun and beat home.
excellent way to end my time with her........and i would highly recomend it
to anyone.
gf.



Scott Vernon August 2nd 04 04:16 AM

a honking day on LIS
 

"gonefishiing" wrote

in any event she can sail circles around the logic of a ganz.


probably beat him in a cat fight, too.





gonefishiing August 2nd 04 04:25 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
nah.she takes after me in that regard: prefers to avoid idiocy, whenever
possible.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"gonefishiing" wrote

in any event she can sail circles around the logic of a ganz.


probably beat him in a cat fight, too.







Bart Senior August 2nd 04 04:55 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
With bare poles?

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Were any of them sailing up wind?




gonefishiing August 2nd 04 05:23 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
BB,
meant to ask:
how is milford for a weekend stay?
thanks
gf.

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 11:44:35 -0400, "gonefishiing" wrote:

was anyone else out on long island sound yesterday?
it was blowing like stink all day.
just returned last night. spent the night aboard only to wake up to rain
today.

if i didn't have to be back, we could have made block island in record

time.
as it was, we spun the boat around and headed for home on a close haul

all
day.

something i have encounter a number of times on the sound: when the wind

is
out of the west--south west, it always seems to gain strength the closer

i
get to the western edge of the sound. i suspect it has to do with how

narrow
the area around throgs neck is, relative to the rest of the sound.

has anyone else experienced this


The LIS was indeed honking yesterday. We got a late start at around 11:00

AM.
The first hour or two it was blowing about 12 knots more or less, with

fairly
flat seas. By 3:00, it was blowing about 20 knots, with frequent higher

gusts,
and the seas picked up accordingly.

It was a great sail from near Milford, up to Hammonassett Beach and back

with
beautiful weather. Tons of sailboats were out. At Hammonassett Beach,

someone
was flying a giant kite that resembled an octopus. Rough guess is that,

with
tentacles, it must have been about 50 feet long and 10 feet high. There

were
other, much smaller kites doing aerobatics.

BB




gonefishiing August 2nd 04 05:33 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
have any interest in a perpetual motion machine?
gf.



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
With bare poles?

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Were any of them sailing up wind?






Scott Vernon August 2nd 04 02:25 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
Oh my, forgot gf is a newbee.

SV


"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
have any interest in a perpetual motion machine?
gf.



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
With bare poles?

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Were any of them sailing up wind?







Jonathan Ganz August 2nd 04 08:06 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
He did... 77 was a good year... think glass, forward
looking design. See... you're not a total loser.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
oops a typo: 1976 pearson 30 hull #840

no not a bobsprit twin
but i do know bob----sailing neighbor so to speak, although i have not

seen
him for about 2 years.
BTW: i thought bob sold ghost?
gf.


"SamSpade" wrote in message
.. .
gonefishiing wrote:
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

ghost? Are you boobie's evil twin?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, I have no need of a sailboat in my gay lifestyle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com









Jonathan Ganz August 2nd 04 08:07 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
It's from an old thread...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
have any interest in a perpetual motion machine?
gf.



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
With bare poles?

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Were any of them sailing up wind?








[email protected] August 2nd 04 08:32 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, "gonefishiing" wrote:

was anyone else out on long island sound yesterday?
it was blowing like stink all day.
just returned last night. spent the night aboard


We had a wonderful although somewhat aimless time, but certainly a
comparatively fast and sometimes also challenging one -- to/near
Execution Rocks and Manhassett Bay then to above Stamford with some
back-and-forth crossing in between. Unfortunately, however, we saw a
neighbor from our marina get dismasted (safely helped by fast-arriving
police and some others).

something i have encounter a number of times on the sound:
when the wind is out of the west--south west, it always seems
to gain strength the closer i get to the western edge of
the sound. i suspect it has to do with how narrow
the area around throgs neck is, relative to the rest of the sound.
has anyone else experienced this


Especially in such wind conditions, it is frequently as you say
below/near Throgs Neck to beyond Hempstead, but not necessarily more
on "the western edge of the sound" compared with the other side
further up the sound. But, sure (i.e.: obviously!) - one learns to
look for differing conditions on This compared with That side
depending on wind direction and velocity and the tides, etc., etc.


[email protected] August 2nd 04 11:28 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, "gonefishiing" wrote:

didn't get near CT and so didn't see the kites
closed we came was one long tack which placed us
outside larchmont. stuck along the long island
side (fewer rocks to deal with!........aka: lazy
man's navigation)


The rocks near Larchmont are all clearly marked on the charts and by
long-established buoys. OTOH, early last week, the owner of an older
J boat long moored off Larchmont evidently decided to go on a late
night sail and to return at comparatively low tide over exactly those
well-known/well-marked rocks, and his boat sank leaving just a portio
nof the mast exposed above water (though it was refloated the
following morning by a SeaTow barge/grappler and two other SeaTow
boats).


gonefishiing August 2nd 04 11:47 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
thanks-- i guess
gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
He did... 77 was a good year... think glass, forward
looking design. See... you're not a total loser.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
oops a typo: 1976 pearson 30 hull #840

no not a bobsprit twin
but i do know bob----sailing neighbor so to speak, although i have not

seen
him for about 2 years.
BTW: i thought bob sold ghost?
gf.


"SamSpade" wrote in message
.. .
gonefishiing wrote:
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

ghost? Are you boobie's evil twin?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, I have no need of a sailboat in my gay lifestyle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com










gonefishiing August 2nd 04 11:59 PM

a honking day on LIS
 
the weather patterns have been unlike i have experienced in the 10 or so
years on the sound.
i was watching the clouds saturday night and they appeared to be many
differnt systems at differnet altiitudes, moving in different directions at
a fast rate. the same saturday during the day, although i can't say if they
were at different altitudes.

i do recall one day sailing eastward while a line of thunderstroms hung over
just the south portion of the sound and we were in sun light for the day.

sorry to hear about the dismasting.
gf.


wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, "gonefishiing" wrote:


We had a wonderful although somewhat aimless time, but certainly a
comparatively fast and sometimes also challenging one -- to/near
Execution Rocks and Manhassett Bay then to above Stamford with some
back-and-forth crossing in between. Unfortunately, however, we saw a
neighbor from our marina get dismasted (safely helped by fast-arriving
police and some others).

something i have encounter a number of times on the sound:
when the wind is out of the west--south west, it always seems
to gain strength the closer i get to the western edge of
the sound. i suspect it has to do with how narrow
the area around throgs neck is, relative to the rest of the sound.
has anyone else experienced this


Especially in such wind conditions, it is frequently as you say
below/near Throgs Neck to beyond Hempstead, but not necessarily more
on "the western edge of the sound" compared with the other side
further up the sound. But, sure (i.e.: obviously!) - one learns to
look for differing conditions on This compared with That side
depending on wind direction and velocity and the tides, etc., etc.




Jonathan Ganz August 3rd 04 12:08 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
Well, thanks for not KFing me--I guess.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
thanks-- i guess
gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
He did... 77 was a good year... think glass, forward
looking design. See... you're not a total loser.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
oops a typo: 1976 pearson 30 hull #840

no not a bobsprit twin
but i do know bob----sailing neighbor so to speak, although i have not

seen
him for about 2 years.
BTW: i thought bob sold ghost?
gf.


"SamSpade" wrote in message
.. .
gonefishiing wrote:
well lets see
its got one of those keel thingies on the bottom
a sail in the front and one in the back
sails well for its vintage and does what i need it to do for now
a 1977 pearson 30

ghost? Are you boobie's evil twin?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Fishboy, I have no need of a sailboat in my gay lifestyle.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com












Horvath August 6th 04 12:30 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:30:26 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Fishboy, what kind of sailboat?



Better than yours.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz August 6th 04 05:45 AM

a honking day on LIS
 
Ah, you speak from experience... yes, hunters are crap.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 09:30:26 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Fishboy, what kind of sailboat?



Better than yours.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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