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Maxprop July 27th 04 03:02 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

But you like it right? :-)


Guess I should have said, "Oh, hurt me, please."

Max
:-)



Maxprop July 27th 04 03:03 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"katysails" wrote in message

Have I ever got a story for you. I'll email it if you're interested.
Concerns a couple from down your way. Sordid.

Max

Ih my...email me....can it be the famous lady of the painted sails has

risen
on her high heeled pumps again????


Nope. These folks make Ms. Ruthie look like a kindergarten teacher. I'll
send you a synopsis.

Max



Jonathan Ganz July 27th 04 05:47 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
The proper response to this is "No, you wimpering slimeball." :-)

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

But you like it right? :-)


Guess I should have said, "Oh, hurt me, please."

Max
:-)





DSK July 27th 04 06:38 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote...
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles




Joe wrote:
What are you towing?
And you left out Pelican hooks.


For a rope/chain connection on something like a tow (ie where the
ability to undo it quickly is important) a pelican hook would be best
IMHO. I'm not sure I'd want to use a chain on a tow line, unless it was
something really big, tow duration a couple of days, and chafe could not
be guarded well enough.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe July 27th 04 06:39 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message . net...
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


Ok, I'll give it a go.

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe

katysails July 27th 04 10:19 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Nope. These folks make Ms. Ruthie look like a kindergarten teacher. I'll
send you a synopsis.

Max

Can't wait...I thought Ms. Ruthie was about as weird as it gets....and I
know LOTS of stories about her....

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Bart Senior July 28th 04 05:40 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe




Joe July 28th 04 11:15 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message t...
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.


They are...... assuming you worm the pin so it can not back out. A
pin shackle in running gear can have it's cotter pin severed and lost,
But in a bind they are easier to remove quickly. A pelican on your end
is for your safety.

I think on anything under 50 foot a good bowline will do the trick,
and a sharp knife for safety.

That question needed more specific application information IMO.
Perhaps Capt. Neal needs to give the test's aurthor a call.

I will file an offical ASA protest with the test graders if you do not
award my point :0(


Joe






Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe


Jeff Morris July 28th 04 11:19 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed you the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe






Bart Senior July 29th 04 03:08 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
I never got your email. What address did you use? My old one?

Jeff Morris wrote

You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed you

the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote


This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe









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