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Bart Senior July 26th 04 02:42 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles



Joe July 26th 04 07:31 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message . net...
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


What are you towing?
And you left out Pelican hooks.

Joe

Maxprop July 26th 04 11:21 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


e) Sexual bondage shackles

Max



katysails July 26th 04 11:44 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

e) Sexual bondage shackles

Max
A-dock has corrupted you completely....
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Bart Senior July 27th 04 02:49 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
I think we should move Max to either S or M dock.

katysails wrote

e) Sexual bondage shackles

Max
A-dock has corrupted you completely....
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Maxprop July 27th 04 05:39 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"katysails" wrote in message

e) Sexual bondage shackles

Max
A-dock has corrupted you completely....


Have I ever got a story for you. I'll email it if you're interested.
Concerns a couple from down your way. Sordid.

Max



Maxprop July 27th 04 05:40 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

I think we should move Max to either S or M dock.


Ohhhh, hurt me.

Max



Jonathan Ganz July 27th 04 08:04 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
But you like it right? :-)

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

I think we should move Max to either S or M dock.


Ohhhh, hurt me.

Max





Bart Senior July 27th 04 08:17 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Send me a copy.

Maxprop wrote

"katysails" wrote in message

e) Sexual bondage shackles

Max
A-dock has corrupted you completely....


Have I ever got a story for you. I'll email it if you're interested.
Concerns a couple from down your way. Sordid.

Max





katysails July 27th 04 11:45 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Have I ever got a story for you. I'll email it if you're interested.
Concerns a couple from down your way. Sordid.

Max

Ih my...email me....can it be the famous lady of the painted sails has risen
on her high heeled pumps again????

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Maxprop July 27th 04 03:02 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

But you like it right? :-)


Guess I should have said, "Oh, hurt me, please."

Max
:-)



Maxprop July 27th 04 03:03 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"katysails" wrote in message

Have I ever got a story for you. I'll email it if you're interested.
Concerns a couple from down your way. Sordid.

Max

Ih my...email me....can it be the famous lady of the painted sails has

risen
on her high heeled pumps again????


Nope. These folks make Ms. Ruthie look like a kindergarten teacher. I'll
send you a synopsis.

Max



Jonathan Ganz July 27th 04 05:47 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
The proper response to this is "No, you wimpering slimeball." :-)

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

But you like it right? :-)


Guess I should have said, "Oh, hurt me, please."

Max
:-)





DSK July 27th 04 06:38 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote...
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles




Joe wrote:
What are you towing?
And you left out Pelican hooks.


For a rope/chain connection on something like a tow (ie where the
ability to undo it quickly is important) a pelican hook would be best
IMHO. I'm not sure I'd want to use a chain on a tow line, unless it was
something really big, tow duration a couple of days, and chafe could not
be guarded well enough.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe July 27th 04 06:39 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message . net...
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


Ok, I'll give it a go.

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe

katysails July 27th 04 10:19 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Nope. These folks make Ms. Ruthie look like a kindergarten teacher. I'll
send you a synopsis.

Max

Can't wait...I thought Ms. Ruthie was about as weird as it gets....and I
know LOTS of stories about her....

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Bart Senior July 28th 04 05:40 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe




Joe July 28th 04 11:15 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message t...
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.


They are...... assuming you worm the pin so it can not back out. A
pin shackle in running gear can have it's cotter pin severed and lost,
But in a bind they are easier to remove quickly. A pelican on your end
is for your safety.

I think on anything under 50 foot a good bowline will do the trick,
and a sharp knife for safety.

That question needed more specific application information IMO.
Perhaps Capt. Neal needs to give the test's aurthor a call.

I will file an offical ASA protest with the test graders if you do not
award my point :0(


Joe






Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe


Jeff Morris July 28th 04 11:19 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed you the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles


When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe






Bart Senior July 29th 04 03:08 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
I never got your email. What address did you use? My old one?

Jeff Morris wrote

You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed you

the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote


This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe








Jeff Morris July 29th 04 04:01 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
I sent to:
bsenior at optonline.net

The text was:

------------------------------------------
side/stern/masthead

12/12-20/20-50/50


also, screw pin shackles


Don't you get a lot of spam using your real addy?



------------------------------------------

I never got a "bounced" message. I guess the explains why you don't get spam!




"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I never got your email. What address did you use? My old one?

Jeff Morris wrote

You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed you

the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote


This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe









Bart Senior July 29th 04 02:59 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Oops,
Sorry I though I changed that. No wonder I'm not gettting much spam these
days.

my firstnamelastname at yahoo dottt commm


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I sent to:
bsenior at optonline.net

The text was:

------------------------------------------
side/stern/masthead

12/12-20/20-50/50


also, screw pin shackles


Don't you get a lot of spam using your real addy?



------------------------------------------

I never got a "bounced" message. I guess the explains why you don't get

spam!




"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I never got your email. What address did you use? My old one?

Jeff Morris wrote

You could have mentioned that I included this answer when I emailed

you
the
answer to 6. ;-}


"Bart Senior" wrote


This is a question right out of the USCG exams.

The CG answer is D. Screw Pin shackles.

I assume it's because these are more secure.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
When making up a tow connection, you should
use: [1 pt]

a) Safety Hooks
b) Plain eye hooks
c) Round pin shackles
d) Screw pin shackles

When towing anything over 25,000 tons I prefer to use a Pelican

hook
made for 6 " chain. The six inch chain is long enough to clear the
stern roller. The chain has a wormed screw shackle that is

attached to
the 5" samson braid hauser. I like to have at least 1/4 mile of

hauser
prefer 1/2 mile. The end of the hauser is attached to a two point
bridle that usually uses round pin shackles to attach to the towed
item.

I like the pelican hook on deck just incase you trip the tow. Or

the
tow sinks. No sence in getting pulled under or over.

Joe











Jonathan Ganz July 29th 04 07:16 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Yeah, it's a good idea. Most spam these days is from email addresses
on websites... something like 90% gotten from robots.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:59:57 GMT, "Bart Senior"
said:

Oops,
Sorry I though I changed that. No wonder I'm not gettting much spam

these
days.

my firstnamelastname at yahoo dottt commm


Might want to change it in your news reader. I had also sent you a couple

of
e-mails and never received a reply. Thought you were ignoring me.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

"Michael Moore...may win an Oscar for the kind of work that got Stephen
Glass, Jayson Blair, and Jack Kelly fired"--NPR's Scott Simon




katysails July 30th 04 11:51 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 

my firstnamelastname at yahoo dottt commm

Your last name is Senior????
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Jonathan Ganz July 30th 04 07:51 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
I can confirm it.

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"katysails" wrote in message
...

my firstnamelastname at yahoo dottt commm

Your last name is Senior????
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katysails July 30th 04 09:58 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 

I can confirm it.

I just figured there was a Bart, Jr. out there somewhere....
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Jonathan Ganz July 30th 04 11:42 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
Only mentally... :-)

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"katysails" wrote in message
...

I can confirm it.

I just figured there was a Bart, Jr. out there somewhere....
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Kirie Elite 32
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Jeff Morris August 2nd 04 12:38 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...

I can confirm it.

I just figured there was a Bart, Jr. out there somewhere....


There is, his name is Bart Senior Junior.



katysails August 2nd 04 11:49 AM

Seamanship Question #8
 
There is, his name is Bart Senior Junior.

You must have been a conversation piece while growing up....

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Kirie Elite 32
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Bart Senior August 2nd 04 04:20 PM

Seamanship Question #8
 
No kidding. The joke wears thin.

"katysails" wrote
There is, his name is Bart Senior Junior.

You must have been a conversation piece while growing up....





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