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Scott Vernon July 25th 04 05:43 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
|
| ... and you'll want to trim the aft vessel to be
| just slightly slower.
|
| Or in the case of Overpoof, trim for top speed.

Oh Yeah.... Sail on up Here Scotty! We'll race for beers!


Don't have a passport.

Carry too many guns.

Have to work.

Lisa won't let me.

Too frickin cold up thar.

Can't legaly leave the US.

Don't drink beer.


pick one, any one,
Scotty




Bart Senior July 25th 04 06:10 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
I would tell the other boat to heave-to and I'd
do a mooring shoot on his stern and direct him to
toss any tool into the cockpit as I passed by and
bore away to heave-to on the other tack while I
grabbed whatever it was.

It does matter what it was you want to pass over.
If it was a beer, I'd want more than one, and I'd be
careful to not bust any cans open.

Also, I would not leave my boat unless it was for
an emergency to help the other guy. That is not to
say you can't.

When I anchored a few days ago. Everyone went
swimming but me. I knew someone had to stay on
board to help the others back on. It was very hard
getting the other adult back aboard. And even with two
of us, it was not easy to get a few of the kids back on
board.

Generally, I'm ultra cautious on the ocean, because any
sort of injury can have grave consequences. I've never
sailed solo on the ocean. I have sailed solo in rough
coastal conditions. It makes you think about all the
things that can go wrong.

Sailing solo with a fleet makes sense from a safety standpoint.
The best reason to sail in a fleet is to take turns keeping watch.
Set the squelch up with the volume high on your radio's and
each boat can wake up the others to avoid to collisions and
stay in contact.

Scout wrote

Bart,
Ok, so you're sailing offshore, way offshore. You're sailing single-handed
but with another boat doing the same; your friend's boat is a few hundred
yards away. There are no other boats around for at least 50 miles. You

need
some item (e.g., a cold beer or a torque wrench, doesn't matter) and it's

on
his boat. How do you get the item? Would you ever abandon your boat to

raft
over to him? Under any circumstances?
It's a purely theoretical in the places I sail, but I'm wondering if ocean
sailors ever leave their boat to autopilot.
Scout


"Bart Senior" wrote


Anyone every sailed in a fleet of boats?

On Thursday, I balanced the boat on a close
haul and snuck up on the kids sitting in the bow
while the boat steered itself, and waited to see
how long before they noticed no one was
driving.

It took about 3 minutes.[for anyone to notice]




Bart Senior July 25th 04 06:12 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
Now that is interesting. I'd like to try it.

Capt. Mooron wrote

Certainly Scout... I've done it myself in open water. Mind you I had a

high
speed inflatable to make the passage and eased the sails to reduce speed.

Have you ever sailed an "Articulated Schooner"..... it's what we call it
when you arrange to tow another boat behind you [upwind only] ... both
vessels under canvas, no aux... and you'll want to trim the aft vessel to

be
just slightly slower. You do have to board and trim on tacks but the

effect
is eye catching! Best we've done is 3 boats...


"Scout" wrote
| Ok, so you're sailing offshore, way offshore. You're sailing

single-handed
| but with another boat doing the same; your friend's boat is a few

hundred
| yards away. There are no other boats around for at least 50 miles. You
need
| some item (e.g., a cold beer or a torque wrench, doesn't matter) and

it's
on
| his boat. How do you get the item? Would you ever abandon your boat to
raft
| over to him? Under any circumstances?
| It's a purely theoretical in the places I sail, but I'm wondering if

ocean
| sailors ever leave their boat to autopilot.
|
| "Bart Senior" wrote
| Anyone ever sailed in a fleet of boats?
|
| On Thursday, I balanced the boat on a close
| haul and snuck up on the kids sitting in the bow
| while the boat steered itself, and waited to see
| how long before they noticed no one was
| driving.





Scout July 25th 04 06:20 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
Ok thanks.
I'm sure lots of things can go wrong. I watched the Sir Ernest Shackleton
special a few nights ago. They left their boat unattended and it sank; I
guess the rules change when the ocean becomes solid ice.
Scout

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I would tell the other boat to heave-to and I'd
do a mooring shoot on his stern and direct him to
toss any tool into the cockpit as I passed by and
bore away to heave-to on the other tack while I
grabbed whatever it was.

It does matter what it was you want to pass over.
If it was a beer, I'd want more than one, and I'd be
careful to not bust any cans open.

Also, I would not leave my boat unless it was for
an emergency to help the other guy. That is not to
say you can't.

When I anchored a few days ago. Everyone went
swimming but me. I knew someone had to stay on
board to help the others back on. It was very hard
getting the other adult back aboard. And even with two
of us, it was not easy to get a few of the kids back on
board.

Generally, I'm ultra cautious on the ocean, because any
sort of injury can have grave consequences. I've never
sailed solo on the ocean. I have sailed solo in rough
coastal conditions. It makes you think about all the
things that can go wrong.

Sailing solo with a fleet makes sense from a safety standpoint.
The best reason to sail in a fleet is to take turns keeping watch.
Set the squelch up with the volume high on your radio's and
each boat can wake up the others to avoid to collisions and
stay in contact.

Scout wrote

Bart,
Ok, so you're sailing offshore, way offshore. You're sailing

single-handed
but with another boat doing the same; your friend's boat is a few

hundred
yards away. There are no other boats around for at least 50 miles. You

need
some item (e.g., a cold beer or a torque wrench, doesn't matter) and

it's
on
his boat. How do you get the item? Would you ever abandon your boat to

raft
over to him? Under any circumstances?
It's a purely theoretical in the places I sail, but I'm wondering if

ocean
sailors ever leave their boat to autopilot.
Scout


"Bart Senior" wrote


Anyone every sailed in a fleet of boats?

On Thursday, I balanced the boat on a close
haul and snuck up on the kids sitting in the bow
while the boat steered itself, and waited to see
how long before they noticed no one was
driving.

It took about 3 minutes.[for anyone to notice]






Scout July 25th 04 06:21 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/shackletonexped/



Jonathan Ganz July 25th 04 06:34 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
Are you on parole?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
|
| ... and you'll want to trim the aft vessel to be
| just slightly slower.
|
| Or in the case of Overpoof, trim for top speed.

Oh Yeah.... Sail on up Here Scotty! We'll race for beers!


Don't have a passport.

Carry too many guns.

Have to work.

Lisa won't let me.

Too frickin cold up thar.

Can't legaly leave the US.

Don't drink beer.


pick one, any one,
Scotty






Jonathan Ganz July 25th 04 06:35 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
I've handed stuff back and forth this way, but we couldn't sustain it for
long. Always afraid that we'd touch or crunch someone. Also only tried it in
light, steady conditions.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Certainly Scout... I've done it myself in open water. Mind you I had a

high
speed inflatable to make the passage and eased the sails to reduce speed.

Have you ever sailed an "Articulated Schooner"..... it's what we call it
when you arrange to tow another boat behind you [upwind only] ... both
vessels under canvas, no aux... and you'll want to trim the aft vessel to

be
just slightly slower. You do have to board and trim on tacks but the

effect
is eye catching! Best we've done is 3 boats...

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| Bart,
| Ok, so you're sailing offshore, way offshore. You're sailing

single-handed
| but with another boat doing the same; your friend's boat is a few

hundred
| yards away. There are no other boats around for at least 50 miles. You
need
| some item (e.g., a cold beer or a torque wrench, doesn't matter) and

it's
on
| his boat. How do you get the item? Would you ever abandon your boat to
raft
| over to him? Under any circumstances?
| It's a purely theoretical in the places I sail, but I'm wondering if

ocean
| sailors ever leave their boat to autopilot.
| Scout
|
|
| "Bart Senior" wrote in message
| t...
| Anyone every sailed in a fleet of boats?
|
| On Thursday, I balanced the boat on a close
| haul and snuck up on the kids sitting in the bow
| while the boat steered itself, and waited to see
| how long before they noticed no one was
| driving.
|
| It took about 3 minutes.
|
|
|
|





Jonathan Ganz July 25th 04 06:38 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
We always had at least one person stay on the boat when we stopped for a
swim while travelling down the coast. But, getting back on was easy, despite
the high freeboard. The boat was rolling back and forth on its beam, so
you'd just wait until one of the rails came down, then grab and hold. It
would lift you right up, then you'd step over the lifelines and you were
back in. We also trailed a line when people were swimming, since we were
still moving at a knot or two.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I would tell the other boat to heave-to and I'd
do a mooring shoot on his stern and direct him to
toss any tool into the cockpit as I passed by and
bore away to heave-to on the other tack while I
grabbed whatever it was.

It does matter what it was you want to pass over.
If it was a beer, I'd want more than one, and I'd be
careful to not bust any cans open.

Also, I would not leave my boat unless it was for
an emergency to help the other guy. That is not to
say you can't.

When I anchored a few days ago. Everyone went
swimming but me. I knew someone had to stay on
board to help the others back on. It was very hard
getting the other adult back aboard. And even with two
of us, it was not easy to get a few of the kids back on
board.

Generally, I'm ultra cautious on the ocean, because any
sort of injury can have grave consequences. I've never
sailed solo on the ocean. I have sailed solo in rough
coastal conditions. It makes you think about all the
things that can go wrong.

Sailing solo with a fleet makes sense from a safety standpoint.
The best reason to sail in a fleet is to take turns keeping watch.
Set the squelch up with the volume high on your radio's and
each boat can wake up the others to avoid to collisions and
stay in contact.

Scout wrote

Bart,
Ok, so you're sailing offshore, way offshore. You're sailing

single-handed
but with another boat doing the same; your friend's boat is a few

hundred
yards away. There are no other boats around for at least 50 miles. You

need
some item (e.g., a cold beer or a torque wrench, doesn't matter) and

it's
on
his boat. How do you get the item? Would you ever abandon your boat to

raft
over to him? Under any circumstances?
It's a purely theoretical in the places I sail, but I'm wondering if

ocean
sailors ever leave their boat to autopilot.
Scout


"Bart Senior" wrote


Anyone every sailed in a fleet of boats?

On Thursday, I balanced the boat on a close
haul and snuck up on the kids sitting in the bow
while the boat steered itself, and waited to see
how long before they noticed no one was
driving.

It took about 3 minutes.[for anyone to notice]






Thom Stewart July 25th 04 06:48 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
CM,

By all that's Holy, why would anybody in their right mind, with their
senses about them want to drag a un-maned vessel with its' sail set? For
what purpose?

I can think of nothing but expense damage and not one advantage!

How much "Overproof" was involved in that stupid idea?

Ole Thom


Thom Stewart July 25th 04 07:10 PM

Sailing in a fleet
 
Bart,

I do believe that if you went to any YC on a Wednesday Nite you would
see many,many people sailing in fleets.

Ole Thom



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