Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died so I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

"Boat Design Quarterly" 14 by Mike O'Brian, has a article about the
Herreshoff Fish-Class (loa 20'9'') from 1916, and Joel Whites
centreboard version from 1990-something called the Flatfish.

The Fish-class was inspired by the Herreshoff 12½ (loa 16'10'') from
1912. This one was inspired from one or more of the work-boats used
for racing in Bermuda.

"Buzzard Bay 12½", "Buzzard Bay Boys Boat", "Doughdish" (Fiberglas),
"Bullseye" (Marconi) are more or less identical to the 12½.

"Thirty Classic Boat Designs" by Roger C Taylor (McGraw-Hill) has a
chapter (25) on the 12½.

Joel White has also made centreboard versions of both the 12½ called
the "Haven 12½".
Plans of Joel Whites boats are shown in "Forty Wooden Boats"
(Flatfish) "Thirty Wooden Boats" (Haven 12½). Both by Wooden Boat
Publications.

Peter S/Y Anicula


"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed
boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died so
I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

IF you want to Google, try: Herreshoff and Fish-class.

I am sure that you can find better links than this:
http://www.vsp.cape.com/~whmsi/felicity.htm

Peter S/Y Anicula


"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed
boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died so
I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message k...
IF you want to Google, try: Herreshoff and Fish-class.

I am sure that you can find better links than this:
http://www.vsp.cape.com/~whmsi/felicity.htm

Peter S/Y Anicula


Thanks Peter.

Have you ever sailed on one?
If I ever buy a waterfront home I'm gonna have to have one tied out
back next to RedCloud.

Joe



"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed
boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died so
I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

No, I never sailed one, but I have an interest in boat design.
If you get that waterfront home and the boat, you are very welcome to
invite me for a sail.

Peter S/Y Anicula


"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in
message k...
IF you want to Google, try: Herreshoff and Fish-class.

I am sure that you can find better links than this:
http://www.vsp.cape.com/~whmsi/felicity.htm

Peter S/Y Anicula


Thanks Peter.

Have you ever sailed on one?
If I ever buy a waterfront home I'm gonna have to have one tied out
back next to RedCloud.

Joe



"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed
boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here
from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to
go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and
nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died
so
I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been
making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K
and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone
know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in message k...
No, I never sailed one, but I have an interest in boat design.
If you get that waterfront home and the boat, you are very welcome to
invite me for a sail.



Consider yourself invited. If...........

Tell you what, that boat hugs the water and has the fairest hull of
all.
When Herschoff came up with that one he did it right. Love to have the
same hull just twice as big.

Joe


Peter S/Y Anicula


"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote in
message k...
IF you want to Google, try: Herreshoff and Fish-class.

I am sure that you can find better links than this:
http://www.vsp.cape.com/~whmsi/felicity.htm

Peter S/Y Anicula


Thanks Peter.

Have you ever sailed on one?
If I ever buy a waterfront home I'm gonna have to have one tied out
back next to RedCloud.

Joe



"Joe" skrev i en meddelelse
om...
Last night I got to spend 5 hours sailing a Herschoff(?)designed
boat
called a Fish or fisher class. Broker wanted it brought here
from
across the bay. It's going to be loaded on a truck tomorrow to
go to
Chesapeake bay to the new owner. It was a 20 footer fast and
nimble.
What a great boat. Arex core glass boat. The previous owner died
so
I
could not find out to much about the boat cept they have been
making
that design since 1912. A broker bought this bristol one for 20K
and
claims he will get 28K for it in the Cheasapeake area. Anyone
know
anymore about the fish class boat?

Thanks
Joe

"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote
No, I never sailed one, but I have an interest in boat design.
If you get that waterfront home and the boat, you are very welcome to
invite me for a sail.

Me too. I haven't sailed a Fish but I've done some racing in the 12
1/2s. They are fun, but very different. Throat halyard tension is the
key to pointing, and a cute little spinnaker that will tangle on the
gaff in a heartbeat.

Joe wrote:
Tell you what, that boat hugs the water and has the fairest hull of
all.
When Herschoff came up with that one he did it right. Love to have the
same hull just twice as big.

Many of N.G. Herreshoffs designs had similar hull forms. The "S" boat
(one of my all-time favorites) is a bit slimmer & lighter with a huge
sail. The Newport 29 and the Fisher's Island 32 (which are actually 36
and 42 feet loa IIRC) are very similar in hull & rig. The real deal
would be one of the cold molded modern repros.

This month 'Wooden Boat' magazine has a free Buzzard's Bay 30 (46' LOA)
needing restoration, sitting in a boatyard in Little River SC. If you
really really want one (I'd go get it but my wife would kill me).

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote in message .. .
"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote
No, I never sailed one, but I have an interest in boat design.
If you get that waterfront home and the boat, you are very welcome to
invite me for a sail.

Me too. I haven't sailed a Fish but I've done some racing in the 12
1/2s. They are fun, but very different. Throat halyard tension is the
key to pointing, and a cute little spinnaker that will tangle on the
gaff in a heartbeat.

Joe wrote:
Tell you what, that boat hugs the water and has the fairest hull of
all.
When Herschoff came up with that one he did it right. Love to have the
same hull just twice as big.

Many of N.G. Herreshoffs designs had similar hull forms. The "S" boat
(one of my all-time favorites) is a bit slimmer & lighter with a huge
sail. The Newport 29 and the Fisher's Island 32 (which are actually 36
and 42 feet loa IIRC) are very similar in hull & rig. The real deal
would be one of the cold molded modern repros.

This month 'Wooden Boat' magazine has a free Buzzard's Bay 30 (46' LOA)
needing restoration, sitting in a boatyard in Little River SC. If you
really really want one (I'd go get it but my wife would kill me).

Thats a catchy phrase when you say Needs restoring on a wooden boat.
Sometimes its cheaper to start from scratch.

Woods not my favorite for hulls.

Joe



Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Joe" wrote


Woods not my favorite for hulls.

it doesn't rust.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote


Woods not my favorite for hulls.

it doesn't rust.

Breaks to easy and rots. Swells, shrinks, fastners corrode, ect.
I restored an old 1930's Garwood Sweet 16 once, spent a year on it.

I like working with metal more than any other boat material.

Joe