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"Wally" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: I'd guess that he is from Lancashire ... or maybe Yorkshire!!! Silly wee man. Keep guessing, Gonad - you're more than a few miles out. Go on!!! Prove me wrong! Nice try. But not nice enough. Please, please, please ... prove me wrong! I'd really like to know where nice, generous, handsome, witty people like you come from. Was that nice enough? Regards Donal -- |
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Donal wrote:
Please, please, please ... prove me wrong! I'd really like to know where nice, generous, handsome, witty people like you come from. Was that nice enough? You're making me vomit - go back to weaseling. -- Wally www.artbywally.com www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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"Wally" wrote in message ... Of the few that I've tried, I think I'd prefer a single Islay malt. However, I don't really drink whisky - certainly not neat, but I don't mind it in a freshly-brewed coffee. On the very rare occasions when I do drink spirits, it's more likely to be Lamb's Navy rum, or Drambuie Men who drink Drambuie would be most unwelcome on my boat. I don't like to feel nervous when I have to bend over on a boat. Regards Donal -- |
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"Wally" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: Please, please, please ... prove me wrong! I'd really like to know where nice, generous, handsome, witty people like you come from. Was that nice enough? You're making me vomit - go back to weaseling. |
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"Wally" wrote in message ... Donal wrote: Please, please, please ... prove me wrong! I'd really like to know where nice, generous, handsome, witty people like you come from. Was that nice enough? You're making me vomit - go back to weaseling. I regret making you feel ill. I was just wondering why you are ashamed of your heritage. That seems very sad to me. I'm very proud of my heritage. I suppose that I'm lucky. Regards Donal -- |
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Donal wrote:
I was just wondering why you are ashamed of your heritage. That seems very sad to me. I'm not ashamed of my heritage in the slightest. I'm Scottish (and I thought that was pretty obvious). It's just unfortunate for you that you think my name somehow means that I'm not. -- Wally www.artbywally.com www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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How about the Barra McNeils?
Some great Celtic Songs from Cape Breton & Nova Scotia. CM Nope...haven't got any of those.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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..... how many religions are there now?...
Which one is right? Which one is Wrong? None of them are right and none are wrong but they do have the right to express their opinion and proselytize just as well as any other political faction does....it is your choice to heed them or not.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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Socialists usually have the best interest of society at heart, misguided as they are How very altruistic....so do the religionists....As they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions and that applies to both sides....and most socialists I've known have been pretty gloomy people.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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It's just unfortunate for you that you think my name somehow means that I'm not. I don't understand that either, since Wallace is a well known and revered (especially since Mel Gibson ) name in Scottish legend and history. It's not a Sassenach name at all...... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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Who's on firth?
"Wally" wrote in message ... Capt. Mooron wrote: 'Firth' is Scottish for 'estuary', 'Forth' is the name of the river that feeds it. Crap... here I thought it was Gaelic! It quite possibly is (haven't studied the etymology) - there are several firths in Scotland... Firth Of Clyde, Firth Of Tay, Moray Firth, Solway Firth, etc. An exception to the estuary idea is the Pentland Firth, which is actually the seaway between the mainland and Orkney. [...back from Cape Breton Highlands National Park!] It was gorgeous, right? :-) -- Wally www.artbywally.com www.wally.myby.co.uk |
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Ah, and most religious zealots are not. They're certain that
they're better than anyone else. That's why I like socialists better. They're unsure and thus safer. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Socialists usually have the best interest of society at heart, misguided as they are How very altruistic....so do the religionists....As they say, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions and that applies to both sides....and most socialists I've known have been pretty gloomy people.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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That's why I like socialists
better. They're unsure and thus safer. Most socialists I've known have been very "in your face" and vocal about the perceived evils and ills of capitalism, corporate structure, personal freedom, etc. And not above and beyond calling names or labeling. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry.
You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with the other party. They're smiling. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... That's why I like socialists better. They're unsure and thus safer. Most socialists I've known have been very "in your face" and vocal about the perceived evils and ills of capitalism, corporate structure, personal freedom, etc. And not above and beyond calling names or labeling. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry.
You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with the other party. They're smiling. So you prefer angry people? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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No. I prefer happy people who are not trying to save me.
I don't like being lied to, so angry people aren't lying. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry. You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with the other party. They're smiling. So you prefer angry people? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... It's just unfortunate for you that you think my name somehow means that I'm not. I don't understand that either, since Wallace is a well known and revered (especially since Mel Gibson ) name in Scottish legend and history. It's not a Sassenach name at all...... Wallace is not usually abbreviated to "Wally". "Wally" is an English name. No proud Scotsman would sign himself as "Wally". Wally may live in Scotland, ... he may even have been born in Scotland ... He is not a Celt! Regards Donal -- |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... That's right. Bu**** is pretty close to center, but he's beholden to the religious right. He's surrounded by extremest right wing freakazoids. Let's see...the choice is to be surrounded by raving religionists or drooling, muck-raking socialists socialists...think I'd rather go with the religionists.... Et tu, Katy? Real religionists don't go to war. "Thou shalt not kill." is quite unambiguous. There are no "ifs", "buts" or exceptions of any kind. I am aware that the 20,000 Iraqi civilian deaths are comepletely irrelevant. However, God might consider that the deaths of the 200 American soldiers constituted a breach of His 5th Commandment! Regards Donal -- |
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Et tu, Katy? Real religionists don't go to war. I wasn't aware that I had declared war on anyone. It would be a pitifully sad one if I did. And real religionists do declare war for righteous reasons....David the King certainly saw his share as did Solomon the Great....pacifism is a nice philosophy...too many people die along its' edges, though, before the point is made and it is seldom sustained for any length of time....even Jesus said "Render to Caesar that which is Caesar's/" If your country calls you, then the obligation is to go or choose another country more in line with your thinking. Since the country you reside in thinks more or less the same as the USA on the current world situation, I also ask you Et tu, Donal? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. -------------------------------------------------------- Et tu, Katy? Real religionists don't go to war. "Thou shalt not kill." is quite unambiguous. There are no "ifs", "buts" or exceptions of any kind. I am aware that the 20,000 Iraqi civilian deaths are comepletely irrelevant. However, God might consider that the deaths of the 200 American soldiers constituted a breach of His 5th Commandment! Regards Donal You can't really be that stupid. You're just a provocateur, I assume. If you really believe what you wrote, you'd have to go spit on the graves of those twenty-year-old RAF pilots that saved Britain from an early Nazi invasion. Just think of how many Nazi pilots they shot down with abandon.... You must really despise them for that slaughter. Right? The Commandment is, do not murder. If a wild-eyed serial killer is stabbing your child to death in front of you, do you believe that God has tied your hands, you can't harm him? You just have to talk it out and reason with the poor fellow until he stops out of guilt, or fatigue? A "pacifist" is just a coward or slacker that's not even honest enough to admit that he (or she) is a coward or slacker. Refusing to destroy evil does not show love for your fellow man, it shows contempt, and thereby disobeys God's teaching. When you grow up, maybe you'll understand. |
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A "pacifist" is just a coward or slacker that's not even honest enough
to admit that he (or she) is a coward or slacker. Now you've gone too far the other way....Gandhi was certainly not a coward nor was he a slacker...and I don't believe that people brought up as Friends are either coward's or slacker's. It is Utopian to think that this world could all adhere to pacifism as a lifestyle...and a common belief that man is born good, rather than is born under the stain of sin, would have to be engendered. (Pelagian rather than the Augustinian viewpoint held by not only Christians, but Jews and Islam) And pacifism only works in cases where you are facing a somewhat reasonable adversary. Imagine pacifism in the face of Hitler. He would have relished it and it would have confirmed his belief in weakness of his targets. Think of pacifism in the face of Idi Amin. It would have gotten you a dinner invitation...as dinner... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. -------------------------------------------------------- Now you've gone too far the other way....Gandhi was certainly not a coward nor was he a slacker. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. were not fighting PURE EVIL. They were fighting pig-headed stupid people who's hearts could be, and were, changed by forcing them to confront their consciences. They knew it would work because they knew their opponents had good hearts in most cases, most. That's the place where non-violence (or pacifism) works. The tactic is not applicable to Osama, or Saddam, or Hitler and all their thugs. In those cases, pacifism is just called suicide. |
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On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:05:24 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap: Real religionists don't go to war. "Thou shalt not kill." is quite unambiguous. There are no "ifs", "buts" or exceptions of any kind. That's a mistranslation from the original. It should read, "Thou shalt not commit murder." Which is totally different. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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"An Metet" wrote in message ster... NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. -------------------------------------------------------- Now you've gone too far the other way....Gandhi was certainly not a coward nor was he a slacker. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. were not fighting PURE EVIL. This strikes at the heart of the issue. Evil is not absolute. For example: Are terrorists evil? If you answered "Yes", then perhaps you should wind the clock back about 40 years. Nelson Mandela was considered to be a terrorist. Very few people complained when he was first locked up. Now, he is seen as a bringer of peace. As recently as 2 months ago, most Republicans believed that Saddam was connected to Al Qaeda. That was your main justification for going to war. Republicans also believed that Saddam had WMD that threatened us. The 9/11 Commission has now told us that both these "facts" were lies. War is evil. .... To start a war is evil. .... To start a war which will bring financial benifit to your family and friends is very evil. Bush told you that Saddam had links to Al Qaeda. Bush told you that Saddam had WMD. Bush's friends made big bucks out of the war. IMHO, you are incapable of recognising true evil when it stares you in the face! Regards Donal -- They were fighting pig-headed stupid people who's hearts could be, and were, changed by forcing them to confront their consciences. They knew it would work because they knew their opponents had good hearts in most cases, most. That's the place where non-violence (or pacifism) works. The tactic is not applicable to Osama, or Saddam, or Hitler and all their thugs. In those cases, pacifism is just called suicide. |
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That's the most evil thing I've read this week.
Donal wrote: "An Metet" wrote in message ster... NOTE: This message was sent thru a mail2news gateway. No effort was made to verify the identity of the sender. -------------------------------------------------------- Now you've gone too far the other way....Gandhi was certainly not a coward nor was he a slacker. People like Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. were not fighting PURE EVIL. This strikes at the heart of the issue. Evil is not absolute. For example: Are terrorists evil? If you answered "Yes", then perhaps you should wind the clock back about 40 years. Nelson Mandela was considered to be a terrorist. Very few people complained when he was first locked up. Now, he is seen as a bringer of peace. As recently as 2 months ago, most Republicans believed that Saddam was connected to Al Qaeda. That was your main justification for going to war. Republicans also believed that Saddam had WMD that threatened us. The 9/11 Commission has now told us that both these "facts" were lies. War is evil. .... To start a war is evil. .... To start a war which will bring financial benifit to your family and friends is very evil. Bush told you that Saddam had links to Al Qaeda. Bush told you that Saddam had WMD. Bush's friends made big bucks out of the war. IMHO, you are incapable of recognising true evil when it stares you in the face! Regards Donal They were fighting pig-headed stupid people who's hearts could be, and were, changed by forcing them to confront their consciences. They knew it would work because they knew their opponents had good hearts in most cases, most. That's the place where non-violence (or pacifism) works. The tactic is not applicable to Osama, or Saddam, or Hitler and all their thugs. In those cases, pacifism is just called suicide. -- jlrogers±³© Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin Eschew Obfuscation. |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message om... That's the most evil thing I've read this week. Very good! You're improving......... a bit! Regards Donal -- |
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