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![]() I was finally out again in my new used boat, (arthritis finally subsided enough to use my right hand), wind was light to less than zero! The boat came with a bag containing a sail marked "Genaker", so I took the sail out, it seemed to made out of about 1/4 oz cloth, radial on the top, parallel panels on the bottom, upper corner marked "Head", one lower corner marked "Clew", other marked "Tack". The tack corner has about 30 ft of 1/4" nylon cord spliced to it and a two foot length of of 1/2" nylon tape with a snap shackle leading from the same cringle. I have never used such a sail, I would deeply appreciate it if some kind soul could tell me the ins and outs of flying such a sail. I attached the "tack" to my stem fitting with the nylon pendant(?) and used a piece of 1/4" dacron as a sheet from the clew, the thing seemed to fly OK, but the wind was so light and fluky that it was somewhat difficult to tell if I was doing this the right way. Why is there a such a long piece of line spliced to cringle marked "tack"? Cheers Marty |
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You want a low stretch pennant.
Here's something interesting http://www.atninc.com/tacker.html Infor on the sail and how it is used. http://na.northsails.com/Cruising_Sails/gennakers.html Martin Baxter wrote The boat came with a bag containing a sail marked "Genaker", so I took the sail out, it seemed to made out of about 1/4 oz cloth, radial on the top, parallel panels on the bottom, upper corner marked "Head", one lower corner marked "Clew", other marked "Tack". The tack corner has about 30 ft of 1/4" nylon cord spliced to it and a two foot length of of 1/2" nylon tape with a snap shackle leading from the same cringle. I have never used such a sail, I would deeply appreciate it if some kind soul could tell me the ins and outs of flying such a sail. I attached the "tack" to my stem fitting with the nylon pendant(?) and used a piece of 1/4" dacron as a sheet from the clew, the thing seemed to fly OK, but the wind was so light and fluky that it was somewhat difficult to tell if I was doing this the right way. Why is there a such a long piece of line spliced to cringle marked "tack"? Cheers Marty |
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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 04:37:43 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap: You want a low stretch pennant. Here's something interesting http://www.atninc.com/tacker.html Infor on the sail and how it is used. http://na.northsails.com/Cruising_Sails/gennakers.html That G-0 gennaker looks exactly like a sail I got, marked "flasher." Anybody know the difference? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Manufacturer= different name, same sail
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Martin Baxter wrote:
I was finally out again in my new used boat, (arthritis finally subsided enough to use my right hand), wind was light to less than zero! My sympathy on the arthritis. It can be difficult to cope. The boat came with a bag containing a sail marked "Genaker", so I took the sail out, it seemed to made out of about 1/4 oz cloth, radial on the top, parallel panels on the bottom, upper corner marked "Head", one lower corner marked "Clew", other marked "Tack". The tack corner has about 30 ft of 1/4" nylon cord spliced to it and a two foot length of of 1/2" nylon tape with a snap shackle leading from the same cringle. That's the tack pennant, used to control the height of the tack from the stem head; nylon is not a good choice though. This line can take a great strain and you don't want it to stretch (unless you enjoy constantly adjusting it). I have never used such a sail, I would deeply appreciate it if some kind soul could tell me the ins and outs of flying such a sail. I attached the "tack" to my stem fitting with the nylon pendant(?) and used a piece of 1/4" dacron as a sheet from the clew, the thing seemed to fly OK, but the wind was so light and fluky that it was somewhat difficult to tell if I was doing this the right way. If it was pulling, you're doing it right ![]() I think the snap shackle on the tack is supposed to go to the forestay. The best point of sail to start out with such critters is with the wind about fifteen degrees aft of abeam. This will make it easier to set because the wind will blow it clear of the rig, and will make it easy to fill when the sheet is trimmed. Ideally, work it to keep a curl on the luff just like a spinnaker... that can be work though. If the wind is fairly steady, you can cleat the sheet & work the curl with the helm. Adjust the tack pennant so that there is a good bit of round projecting forward of the forestay, if the wind is light & the sail doesn't want to rise, take a higher reach and keep the tack pennant tighter. If you want to go further off the wind, ease the tack pennant to get more round and let the sail float around to windward a bit. A common temptation is to pull the sheet and tack really tight and try to point too high with it. You might get the thing pulling well with the wind somewhat forward of the beam but don't get too happy with it... the sail can be overtrimmed & kept looking nice & full when it is dragging the boat straight sideways. Hope you get a chance to try again soon. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Marty,
First let me "Thank you with all my Heart for a Sailing Topic!" That long line on the Tack of the Gennaker is there to regulate the height of the Tack. I run thru a block and back to the cockpit. I secure it to the stern mooring Cleat. Roughly speaking, The farther downwind (Running) the higher and forward you want to fly the tack. Marty, It is a powerful Reaching Sail. That is when you want to lower the Tack (Flatten) the sail. Going Downwind, I go Wing-on-wing with the Main and the Clew of the Gennaker poled out with the whisker pole. This is when you raise the Tack. The Sail is designed to sail with the Clew higher than the Tack. I've borrowed the technique of the new racing boats with the extended poles for flying the sail. I've mounted an eye on the foredeck and a loop on my anchor roller and extend my Spinnaker poled out past my bow. I run the Tack pendent thru the eye of the spinnaker pole and back to the cockpit. Got to make sure Tack Pendent goes over and outside the Bow Pulpit. Hope this helps. Its a damn good light air sail. Use it on days like you described. Once it start to draw it helps the Apparent Wind and is easy to sail. Marty, I rig mine with twin sheets in the clew, with the Lazy Sheet going forward outside of everything. Over the forestay, over the bow pulpit, outside all stays and riggings. This way when I Gybe, I let go on the working sheet, let the wind carry the sail foreward of the forestay, Draw the sail up behind the main and make it fast, Then I Gybe the main over. This is a Gybe with no one on the foredeck Post me if I can help Ole Thom |
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Martin Baxter wrote:
Thanks to Bart, Thom and Doug for your advice, it appears I was more or less doing it right, except for allowing the tack to rise. Special thanks also to Doug, in hind sight I was probably sailing too close to wind some of the time, and although the sail looked real purdy, it wasn't doing much! Cheers Marty |
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I'd say a Gennaker works best below ~70 degrees apparent and will pull
even at 60 -but at that point it'll be quite unstable and you should be switching to a genoa. It's not working too well below 140 apparent either but at that point you are probably sailing within 20 degrees of DDW... The big advanatge is that it's much easier to use than a spinnaker single handed. I use mine in a snuffler by the way. Cheers Martin Baxter wrote: I was finally out again in my new used boat, (arthritis finally subsided enough to use my right hand), wind was light to less than zero! The boat came with a bag containing a sail marked "Genaker", so I took the sail out, it seemed to made out of about 1/4 oz cloth, radial on the top, parallel panels on the bottom, upper corner marked "Head", one lower corner marked "Clew", other marked "Tack". The tack corner has about 30 ft of 1/4" nylon cord spliced to it and a two foot length of of 1/2" nylon tape with a snap shackle leading from the same cringle. I have never used such a sail, I would deeply appreciate it if some kind soul could tell me the ins and outs of flying such a sail. I attached the "tack" to my stem fitting with the nylon pendant(?) and used a piece of 1/4" dacron as a sheet from the clew, the thing seemed to fly OK, but the wind was so light and fluky that it was somewhat difficult to tell if I was doing this the right way. Why is there a such a long piece of line spliced to cringle marked "tack"? Cheers Marty |
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Nav,
I too, use a sleeve with my Gennaker. Ole Thom |