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DSK July 9th 04 01:39 PM

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Ever heard of cosmoline?


Scott Vernon wrote:
We use LPS-3 on the machinery we ship overseas. Good stuff.
http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/CorrosionInh/Lps3.asp


Cool! Thanks for the info & the link... I'd never heard of this stuff
and it looks great.

I'm going to order some right now. Thanks Scotty

FB- Doug "If It's Mil-Spec, It *Has* To Be Good" King


Thom Stewart July 9th 04 02:35 PM

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Bart,

I not sure what you mean by staccato but without the rig the hull is no
longer heeled and without the mast to compensate for the keel becomes at
least twice as effective. If the rig went in the water you have one very
effective sea anchor. It may be trying to punch a hole in the hull but
is stabilizing drift.

I disagree about the motion. It is upright and a lot less violent.

Ole Thom


Peter S/Y Anicula July 9th 04 02:44 PM

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Scott wrote:
Yes, it's a good idea before starting out on any long voyage to take
a few practice strokes on the rigging.


Actually that would not be such a bad idea, though it would be a lot
cheaper to try it on a piece of spare wire.
And also remember that doing it in the workshop, is not the same as
doing it on a jerky boat at night when exhausted, cold and wet and
every second might count.

When we lost the mast last year, and had to cut the wires, the guy who
cut most of the wires had to use all of his power to cut the thicker
wires, and he actually damaged a chest-muscle doing the job, though he
didn't feel it at the moment with all the adrenaline pumping.
So I think that, even though a large wire or bolt cutter is a rather
inconvenient and heavy thing to carry on a boat, one should carry one
and one shouldn't settle
for the smallest size that can cut the wire in ideal conditions.

Doug wrote:
I've tried to hacksaw 1x19 SS wire, it's a
PITA and you'd grow a long gray beard before you got the wreckage
cleared with a hacksaw... maybe one of those hi tech blades...



When changing the rigging I have used a hacksaw to cut the wires (1x19
SS), and
that worked quite well in the workshop with a vice when you have the
time, but on a boat moving about and a mast threatening to damage and
possibly hole the hull, I think a hacksaw would be next to useless.

Peter S/Y Anicula






Bart Senior July 9th 04 04:23 PM

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Thom, that was Oz that wrote that. And he is right,
without the mass and moment arm of the mast up high
to dampen motion, the boat will tend to jerk around
more abruptly. The lighter the boat, the more this
is true.

If you think about the keel doing it's work, but now
not having to fight the mast, it will try to keep the boat
more upright and react quicker, which means a rougher
ride for the crew. Instead of a slow roll, it would be
more of a snap roll.

Bart

Thom Stewart wrote

Bart,

I not sure what you mean by staccato but without the rig the hull is no
longer heeled and without the mast to compensate for the keel becomes at
least twice as effective. If the rig went in the water you have one very
effective sea anchor. It may be trying to punch a hole in the hull but
is stabilizing drift.

I disagree about the motion. It is upright and a lot less violent.

Ole Thom




Bobspirt July 9th 04 04:43 PM

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by ''cheap masts'' I mean 'wooden masts'.

Scotty


Wood masts are most certainly not cheap, unless you make it from an old
telephone pole yourself.

Bart Senior July 9th 04 05:36 PM

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They are cheap and easy to make.

By the way, they aer usually hollow.

Bobspirt wrote

by ''cheap masts'' I mean 'wooden masts'.

Scotty


Wood masts are most certainly not cheap, unless you make it from an old
telephone pole yourself.




Scott Vernon July 9th 04 06:26 PM

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it is expensive, the shop buys it by the barrel and I 'borrow' some every
now and then.

Scotty


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Ever heard of cosmoline?



Scott Vernon wrote:
We use LPS-3 on the machinery we ship overseas. Good stuff.
http://www.lpslabs.com/Products/CorrosionInh/Lps3.asp


Cool! Thanks for the info & the link... I'd never heard of this stuff
and it looks great.

I'm going to order some right now. Thanks Scotty

FB- Doug "If It's Mil-Spec, It *Has* To Be Good" King



Bobspirt July 9th 04 07:22 PM

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They are cheap and easy to make.

By the way, they aer usually hollow.


Have you priced Sitka spruce lately? The hollow ones are even more costly, but
I bet you even solid round spruce spars cost more than an aluminum mast.

Capt. Mooron July 10th 04 05:00 AM

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Mine are a big set..about a meter long and will cut a 3/4 inch SS bolt....
but you'll dislodge your shoulder doing it. ;-)

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Nav" wrote ...
| Well you know me -
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| No, but Doug told me you have a big head.
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| Actually big enough to chomp a 316 bolt
| easily in a test I carried out.
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| 316SS? Doesn't tell what size bolt,
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Scott Vernon July 10th 04 05:49 AM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
Mine are a big set..


hey Hey, save it for LP.




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