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Michael July 3rd 04 11:20 AM

The Moorings
 
Excellent comment and it uncovers the basic flaw in the USA's training
programs such as the ASA style. This week sailing, next week 'offshore
cruising/keelboating' whatever and then go rent or buy something. Kinda
like taking the two wheel test on a 50cc Honda then buying a 1200 Hog. I
much prefer the British system and in this one area, along with aircraft
carrier design they are far and away superior. First you have to pass
Competent Crew, Then comes competent small boat and finally after a series
of such you get to the offshore training which requires time on a larger
vessel. One of the most famous is the BOSS school (British Off Shore
Sailing) which features what, a month on board atsea I think? The only
thing we have even close is the100 ton licensing and none of that is
practical. All class and books. Hard I'm here to tell you I had to study
my ass off. But the sailing endorsement is just a few simple questions.
Then the coasties gave me a license to drive power (and by the way sail
added on) even though most of my time was on sail and very little (back
then) on power. I see many states are starting to require real training and
real licensing for small boats, too include ColRegs. What's most insulting
is the charter outfits in the US want the ASA certification when you have
the license. I think it's primarily forthe tuition money as the training
isn't worth it at this point. It's time ASA and similar upgraded their
program to a more responsible level and copying the Brits would be a smart
first move.

Cheers to you Donal!

Michael




"Bart Senior" wrote in message
.. .
I agree 100%. Many sailors rush through certification programs
to get to the big boats and then take out groups of people who
have never been on a boat--a sure formula for distaster.

I call in single handed sailing, with people in the way.

They would be better off staying in small boats longer. And they
can't grasp that small boats are more fun--which is a sure fire clue
that they are clueless. Big boats are more forgiving right up until
the point where things get out of control.

It always pays to have other experienced crew on board.

OzOne wrote

From my perspective most "disasters" are the result of inexperienced
sailors hiring bigger boats than they've ever even been on.
They have no understanding of handling, systems, nor sympathy for the
equipment, and often throw caution to the wind in an effort to get
that extra few metres closer to the beach or take shortcuts through
areas strewn with obstacles because they have little ability to read
a chart.






David Glueck July 3rd 04 10:52 PM

The Moorings
 
What ever you do, don't charter from the Moorings. I have chartered
from them a dozen times. The last two here a disaster. Since the
founders sold, service has plummeted. And customer service and follow
up is terrible. Write me if you would like a four page letter about
the problems I had in Cannouan.

Bart Senior July 4th 04 04:54 AM

The Moorings
 
Why don't you post it for us?

David Glueck wrote

What ever you do, don't charter from the Moorings. I have chartered
from them a dozen times. The last two here a disaster. Since the
founders sold, service has plummeted. And customer service and follow
up is terrible. Write me if you would like a four page letter about
the problems I had in Cannouan.




Bart Senior July 4th 04 04:59 AM

The Moorings
 
I agree 100%. Many sailors rush through certification programs
to get to the big boats and then take out groups of people who
have never been on a boat--a sure formula for distaster.

I call in single handed sailing, with people in the way.

They would be better off staying in small boats longer. And they
can't grasp that small boats are more fun--which is a sure fire clue
that they are clueless. Big boats are more forgiving right up until
the point where things get out of control.

It always pays to have other experienced crew on board.

OzOne wrote

From my perspective most "disasters" are the result of inexperienced
sailors hiring bigger boats than they've ever even been on.
They have no understanding of handling, systems, nor sympathy for the
equipment, and often throw caution to the wind in an effort to get
that extra few metres closer to the beach or take shortcuts through
areas strewn with obstacles because they have little ability to read
a chart.




SAIL LOCO July 4th 04 05:54 AM

The Moorings
 
What ever you do, don't charter from the Moorings. I have chartered
from them a dozen times. The last two here a disaster.

I'd like to know why you went back after the FIRST disaster.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Bart Senior July 4th 04 11:51 AM

The Moorings
 
ASA and USS both copied the Brits.

What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats. They
could care less about standards.

Michael wrote in

Excellent comment and it uncovers the basic flaw in the USA's training
programs such as the ASA style. This week sailing, next week 'offshore
cruising/keelboating' whatever and then go rent or buy something. Kinda

real licensing for small boats, too include ColRegs. What's most insulting
is the charter outfits in the US want the ASA certification when you have
the license. I think it's primarily for the tuition money as the training
isn't worth it at this point. It's time ASA and similar upgraded their
program to a more responsible level and copying the Brits would be a smart
first move.



Michael

"Bart Senior" wrote


I agree 100%. Many sailors rush through certification programs
to get to the big boats and then take out groups of people who
have never been on a boat--a sure formula for distaster.

I call in single handed sailing, with people in the way.

They would be better off staying in small boats longer. And they
can't grasp that small boats are more fun--which is a sure fire clue
that they are clueless. Big boats are more forgiving right up until
the point where things get out of control.

It always pays to have other experienced crew on board.

OzOne wrote

From my perspective most "disasters" are the result of inexperienced
sailors hiring bigger boats than they've ever even been on.
They have no understanding of handling, systems, nor sympathy for the
equipment, and often throw caution to the wind in an effort to get
that extra few metres closer to the beach or take shortcuts through
areas strewn with obstacles because they have little ability to read
a chart.




JAXAshby July 4th 04 02:14 PM

The Moorings
 
What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.


ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the time?

Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for half an
hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat comes out
of service.

Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to motorcycle
riding.

Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 02:52 PM

The Moorings
 
Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by Mr.
Mensa himself.

Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines on
sailing?

Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding sail
use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning you
utilize describes why.

Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.

Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??

CM




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
|
| ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the time?
|
| Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for
half an
| hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat comes
out
| of service.
|
| Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
motorcycle
| riding.



JAXAshby July 4th 04 03:09 PM

The Moorings
 
moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the afternoon, so
you can sober up at least a bit.

to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.

Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by Mr.
Mensa himself.

Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines on
sailing?

Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding sail
use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning you
utilize describes why.

Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.

Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??

CM




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
|
| ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the time?
|
| Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for
half an
| hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat comes
out
| of service.
|
| Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
motorcycle
| riding.











Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 04:06 PM

The Moorings
 
jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.

Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status and
regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??

You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
defense.... let alone a viable offense.

Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious fact
and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.

Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails Geriatric
Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.

Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and there are
no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium Pills
for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.

Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time... take a
few days.


CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
afternoon, so
| you can sober up at least a bit.
|
| to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
|
| Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by
Mr.
| Mensa himself.
|
| Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines on
| sailing?
|
| Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding
sail
| use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning you
| utilize describes why.
|
| Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
|
| Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| |
| | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the
time?
| |
| | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for
| half an
| | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat
comes
| out
| | of service.
| |
| | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
| motorcycle
| | riding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|



JAXAshby July 4th 04 04:11 PM

The Moorings
 
moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the week.

jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.

Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status and
regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??

You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
defense.... let alone a viable offense.

Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious fact
and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.

Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails Geriatric
Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.

Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and there are
no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium Pills
for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.

Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time... take a
few days.


CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
afternoon, so
| you can sober up at least a bit.
|
| to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
|
| Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by
Mr.
| Mensa himself.
|
| Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines on
| sailing?
|
| Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding
sail
| use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning you
| utilize describes why.
|
| Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
|
| Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| |
| | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the
time?
| |
| | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for
| half an
| | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat
comes
| out
| | of service.
| |
| | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
| motorcycle
| | riding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|











Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 04:18 PM

The Moorings
 
Words too big for you to read there Mensa Genius?

Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
week.
|
| jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.
|
| Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status and
| regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??
|
| You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
| denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
| defense.... let alone a viable offense.
|
| Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious fact
| and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.
|
| Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails
Geriatric
| Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.
|
| Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and there
are
| no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
| profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium
Pills
| for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.
|
| Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time... take
a
| few days.
|
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
| afternoon, so
| | you can sober up at least a bit.
| |
| | to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
| |
| | Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by
| Mr.
| | Mensa himself.
| |
| | Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| | Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines
on
| | sailing?
| |
| | Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding
| sail
| | use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning
you
| | utilize describes why.
| |
| | Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
| |
| | Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| | | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| | |
| | | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the
| time?
| | |
| | | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries
for
| | half an
| | | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat
| comes
| | out
| | | of service.
| | |
| | | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
| | motorcycle
| | | riding.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
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JAXAshby July 4th 04 04:31 PM

The Moorings
 
moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the week.


Words too big for you to read there Mensa Genius?

Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
week.
|
| jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.
|
| Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status and
| regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??
|
| You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
| denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
| defense.... let alone a viable offense.
|
| Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious fact
| and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.
|
| Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails
Geriatric
| Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.
|
| Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and there
are
| no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
| profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium
Pills
| for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.
|
| Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time... take
a
| few days.
|
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
| afternoon, so
| | you can sober up at least a bit.
| |
| | to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
| |
| | Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us by
| Mr.
| | Mensa himself.
| |
| | Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| | Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous magazines
on
| | sailing?
| |
| | Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim regarding
| sail
| | use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the reasoning
you
| | utilize describes why.
| |
| | Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
| |
| | Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| |
| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
| | | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| | |
| | | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the
| time?
| | |
| | | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries
for
| | half an
| | | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat
| comes
| | out
| | | of service.
| | |
| | | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
| | motorcycle
| | | riding.
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|











SAIL LOCO July 4th 04 04:43 PM

The Moorings
 
along with aircraft
carrier design they are far and away superior. ...

And how might that be?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

SAIL LOCO July 4th 04 04:47 PM

The Moorings
 
ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the
time?

No.

Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for
half an
hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat comes out
of service.

Yea, sails that spend their life near the equator, getting used almost every
day are still brand new after 5-7 years of charter boat service.
Jaxass as I've told you before you know nothing about boats, cars or women.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 05:35 PM

The Moorings
 
This concludes my Annual Jax Intelligence Test....

There has been no data presented that would indicate any rise in
intellectual ability from Jax. The Benchmark he holds as the demarkation
between mentally challenged and Brain Dead is stable.

Off You go now Jaxxie....

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
week.
|
|
| Words too big for you to read there Mensa Genius?
|
| Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!
|
| CM
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
| week.
| |
| | jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.
| |
| | Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status
and
| | regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??
| |
| | You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
| | denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
| | defense.... let alone a viable offense.
| |
| | Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious
fact
| | and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.
| |
| | Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails
| Geriatric
| | Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.
| |
| | Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and
there
| are
| | no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
| | profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium
| Pills
| | for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.
| |
| | Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time...
take
| a
| | few days.
| |
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
| | afternoon, so
| | | you can sober up at least a bit.
| | |
| | | to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
| | |
| | | Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us
by
| | Mr.
| | | Mensa himself.
| | |
| | | Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| | | Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous
magazines
| on
| | | sailing?
| | |
| | | Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim
regarding
| | sail
| | | use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the
reasoning
| you
| | | utilize describes why.
| | |
| | | Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
| | |
| | | Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can
anchor,
| | | | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| | | |
| | | | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of
the
| | time?
| | | |
| | | | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone
tries
| for
| | | half an
| | | | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the
boat
| | comes
| | | out
| | | | of service.
| | | |
| | | | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is
to
| | | motorcycle
| | | | riding.
| | |
| | |
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JAXAshby July 4th 04 06:39 PM

The Moorings
 
Yea, sails that spend their life near the equator, getting used almost every
day are still brand new after 5-7 years of charter boat service.


charter boat sail **covers** get used everyday. charter boat *sails* don't get
uncovered but for maybe 30 minutes a week most every week during the six-month
season.

charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to motorcycle
riding.

JAXAshby July 4th 04 06:40 PM

The Moorings
 
moron, go sleep it off.

This concludes my Annual Jax Intelligence Test....

There has been no data presented that would indicate any rise in
intellectual ability from Jax. The Benchmark he holds as the demarkation
between mentally challenged and Brain Dead is stable.

Off You go now Jaxxie....

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
week.
|
|
| Words too big for you to read there Mensa Genius?
|
| Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!
|
| CM
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
| week.
| |
| | jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.
| |
| | Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status
and
| | regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??
| |
| | You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only further
| | denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
| | defense.... let alone a viable offense.
| |
| | Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue obvious
fact
| | and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.
| |
| | Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails
| Geriatric
| | Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.
| |
| | Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and
there
| are
| | no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area to
| | profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the Lithium
| Pills
| | for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.
| |
| | Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time...
take
| a
| | few days.
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| | CM
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| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
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| | | moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
| | afternoon, so
| | | you can sober up at least a bit.
| | |
| | | to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat, unpainted.
| | |
| | | Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto us
by
| | Mr.
| | | Mensa himself.
| | |
| | | Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth Shattering
| | | Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous
magazines
| on
| | | sailing?
| | |
| | | Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim
regarding
| | sail
| | | use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the
reasoning
| you
| | | utilize describes why.
| | |
| | | Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
| | |
| | | Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
| | |
| | | CM
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| | |
| | | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
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| | | | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can
anchor,
| | | | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| | | |
| | | | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of
the
| | time?
| | | |
| | | | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone
tries
| for
| | | half an
| | | | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the
boat
| | comes
| | | out
| | | | of service.
| | | |
| | | | Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is
to
| | | motorcycle
| | | | riding.
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Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 06:53 PM

The Moorings
 
Hurtin' Jaxxie?

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, go sleep it off.
|
| This concludes my Annual Jax Intelligence Test....
|
| There has been no data presented that would indicate any rise in
| intellectual ability from Jax. The Benchmark he holds as the demarkation
| between mentally challenged and Brain Dead is stable.
|
| Off You go now Jaxxie....
|
| CM
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of the
| week.
| |
| |
| | Words too big for you to read there Mensa Genius?
| |
| | Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | moron, you are incoherent. go sleep it off and try again middle of
the
| | week.
| | |
| | | jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.
| | |
| | | Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa
status
| and
| | | regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??
| | |
| | | You make assumptions of my sobriety and yet if true.... only
further
| | | denigrates you in your simplistic inability to formulate a coherent
| | | defense.... let alone a viable offense.
| | |
| | | Your idiocy is only surpassed by your ability to misconstrue
obvious
| fact
| | | and present it here as though it were a revelation worth sharing.
| | |
| | | Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails
| | Geriatric
| | | Division and your elusive quest to locate the Gulf Stream.
| | |
| | | Newfie is a misnomer... Bluenoser would be more correct.... and
| there
| | are
| | | no bareboat charters in these waters, it's far to volatile an area
to
| | | profitably engage in that venture. So.... either lay off the
Lithium
| | Pills
| | | for a few days or hire a writer with some intellect.
| | |
| | | Now try to think this through before you reply... take your time...
| take
| | a
| | | few days.
| | |
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | moron, you should never post on Sunday until at least late in the
| | | afternoon, so
| | | | you can sober up at least a bit.
| | | |
| | | | to a newfie, a "charter boat" is a stolen wooden rowboat,
unpainted.
| | | |
| | | | Oh Boy.... another fine gem of Jaxxian Philosophy rendered unto
us
| by
| | | Mr.
| | | | Mensa himself.
| | | |
| | | | Tell us Wonder Boy..... how did you come to that Earth
Shattering
| | | | Conclusion from the security of your bookshelf and numerous
| magazines
| | on
| | | | sailing?
| | | |
| | | | Charter boats are "short canvassed" for a reason. Your claim
| regarding
| | | sail
| | | | use is laughable. I've chartered many times and none of the
| reasoning
| | you
| | | | utilize describes why.
| | | |
| | | | Face it Jax.... you're an Idiot Sanmérite.
| | | |
| | | | Is your Irwin32 from a charter fleet sale??
| | | |
| | | | CM
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | | What the charter companies want is your money. If you can
| anchor,
| | | | | and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.
| | | | |
| | | | | ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100%
of
| the
| | | time?
| | | | |
| | | | | Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone
| tries
| | for
| | | | half an
| | | | | hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when
the
| boat
| | | comes
| | | | out
| | | | | of service.
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| | | | motorcycle
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Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 06:55 PM

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That's it jaxxies... repeat it often enough and ... Nah! nobody will believe
it anyways.

How's the Irwin 32 today... light enough air to try raising canvas?

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Yea, sails that spend their life near the equator, getting used almost
every
| day are still brand new after 5-7 years of charter boat service.
|
| charter boat sail **covers** get used everyday. charter boat *sails*
don't get
| uncovered but for maybe 30 minutes a week most every week during the
six-month
| season.
|
| charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to
motorcycle
| riding.



SAIL LOCO July 4th 04 08:09 PM

The Moorings
 
charter boat sail **covers** get used everyday. charter boat *sails* don't
get
uncovered but for maybe 30 minutes a week most every week during the six-month
season..

That's a load of crap from the one who knows nothing. I have friends that
usually charter with us who last January got their own boat. They are
powerboaters and they sailed every day. They would probably be considered
least likely to sail by a nitwit like you.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Donal July 4th 04 11:01 PM

The Moorings
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to

motorcycle
riding.


Jax's intelligence it to intelligence as gardening is to eating fish and
chips.


Regards


Donal
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Donal July 4th 04 11:04 PM

The Moorings
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
jaxxies.... what a pathetic, ultra lame excuse for a reply.

Seriously.... is that the best you can do after claiming mensa status


Jax may be a woman!!!!


and
regaling in your authorship of a definitive book??





Stick to your strengths... like modeling Speedos for Glory Sails Geriatric
Division


[Splutter]

Regards


Donal
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Donal July 4th 04 11:06 PM

The Moorings
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Hurtin' Jaxxie?


He ain't! ....that's what makes it so much fun.



Regards


Donal
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Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 11:19 PM

The Moorings
 

"Donal" wrote in message
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|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Hurtin' Jaxxie?
|
|
| He ain't! ....that's what makes it so much fun.

I've heard it said sock puppets can't feel pain..... ;-)

CM



Bart Senior July 4th 04 11:24 PM

The Moorings
 
People sail downwind, that's fast. And when they turn
head to wind they get tired of beating to weather and they
turn on the motors. They always motor in the last stretch,
to charge the batteries, and pull down the sails early.


JAXAshby wrote in

What the charter companies want is your money. If you can anchor,
and motor a bit, then you can take out one of their boats.


ever see anyone on a charter that wasn't motoring 95% to 100% of the time?

Except for the flogging charter boat sails take when someone tries for

half an
hour "to sail", charter boat sails are still brand new when the boat comes

out
of service.

Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to

motorcycle
riding.




JAXAshby July 4th 04 11:46 PM

The Moorings
 
you guys are in a universe never seen by anyone but you. moron by alcohol
dementia, donnie by psychosis.

"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Hurtin' Jaxxie?
|
|
| He ain't! ....that's what makes it so much fun.

I've heard it said sock puppets can't feel pain..... ;-)

CM











JAXAshby July 4th 04 11:49 PM

The Moorings
 
loco, renting a canoe from the Parks Dept is not most people's idea of
"chartering".

Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats powering
back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out to
Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.

chartering is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to motorcycle riding.

charter boat sail **covers** get used everyday. charter boat *sails*
don't
get
uncovered but for maybe 30 minutes a week most every week during the
six-month
season..

That's a load of crap from the one who knows nothing. I have friends that
usually charter with us who last January got their own boat. They are
powerboaters and they sailed every day. They would probably be considered
least likely to sail by a nitwit like you.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"









JAXAshby July 5th 04 12:07 AM

The Moorings
 
People sail downwind, that's fast.

sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so, charter boat
"sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
sailed.

They always motor in the last stretch,
to charge the batteries,


that "last stretch" starting when the anchor is pulled up.

and pull down the sails early.


many charter boats never have the sail covers removed the entire week.

Charter boat sailing is to sailing as sitting on a park bench is to

motorcycle
riding.












Capt. Mooron July 5th 04 12:34 AM

The Moorings
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
| sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so, charter
boat
| "sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
| sailed.

Who taught you to sail???.....Bobsprit?

| that "last stretch" starting when the anchor is pulled up.

Pulled up... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa.... is that like "up anchor" !!???

| many charter boats never have the sail covers removed the entire week.

Oh give it up Man...... You look the fool on your photos and now are
determined to prove it from your text.

Seriously.... we believe you are dumber than a post.... on par with Horvat
but less annoying.

CM




JAXAshby July 5th 04 12:42 AM

The Moorings
 
moron, you have started drinking rather early today. go sleep it off.

| sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so, charter
boat
| "sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
| sailed.

Who taught you to sail???.....Bobsprit?

| that "last stretch" starting when the anchor is pulled up.

Pulled up... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa.... is that like "up anchor" !!???

| many charter boats never have the sail covers removed the entire week.

Oh give it up Man...... You look the fool on your photos and now are
determined to prove it from your text.

Seriously.... we believe you are dumber than a post.... on par with Horvat
but less annoying.

CM












Capt. Mooron July 5th 04 01:25 AM

The Moorings
 
Don't be like that jaxxies..... you won't have any friends when you grow
up! ;-)

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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| moron, you have started drinking rather early today. go sleep it off.



SAIL LOCO July 5th 04 01:53 AM

The Moorings
 
Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats powering
back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out to
Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.

I've chartered in the BVIs a number of times and no I've never seen that.
LOL...
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

SAIL LOCO July 5th 04 01:55 AM

The Moorings
 
sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so, charter
boat
"sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
sailed..

Wrong again Jackass. MOST people on charter plan their sailing so they reach
everywhere.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Capt. Mooron July 5th 04 02:04 AM

The Moorings
 
Jaxxie thinks the entire fleet comes in on Friday Night and leaves on
Saturday Morning... repaired cleaned and provisioned.
It's obvious he hasn't been to the BVI's!!

CM

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats
powering
| back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out to
| Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.
|
| I've chartered in the BVIs a number of times and no I've never seen that.
| LOL...
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| "No shirt, no skirt, full service"



Capt. Mooron July 5th 04 02:05 AM

The Moorings
 

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so,
charter
| boat
| "sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
| sailed..
|
| Wrong again Jackass. MOST people on charter plan their sailing so they
reach
| everywhere.

At least he's consistent!! He's been wrong about everything to date.

CM



JAXAshby July 5th 04 02:56 AM

The Moorings
 
Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats
powering
back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out to
Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.

I've chartered in the BVIs a number of times and no I've never seen that.
LOL...
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"







totaly blind, are ya?

obviously.

JAXAshby July 5th 04 02:58 AM

The Moorings
 
Jaxxie thinks the entire fleet comes in on Friday Night ...

Saturday morning

... and leaves on
Saturday Morning


.... Sunday morning

.. repaired cleaned and provisioned.
It's obvious he hasn't been to the BVI's!!

CM

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats
powering
| back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out to
| Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.
|
| I've chartered in the BVIs a number of times and no I've never seen that.
| LOL...
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| "No shirt, no skirt, full service"











JAXAshby July 5th 04 03:00 AM

The Moorings
 
yeah. sure.

have you EVER watched them??

it seems not.

sailing downwind is easy, though not particularly fast. even so,
charter
boat
"sailors" motor downwind to Anchorage #1 or #1. charter boats are seldom
sailed..

Wrong again Jackass. MOST people on charter plan their sailing so they reach
everywhere.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"









Capt. Mooron July 5th 04 03:12 AM

The Moorings
 
Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa.... Yeah sure jaxxies.... that's why I could rent
fallows at off season rates for 2 and 3 day charters!!! The fleet was
out.... Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!!

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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| Jaxxie thinks the entire fleet comes in on Friday Night ...
|
| Saturday morning
|
| ... and leaves on
| Saturday Morning
|
| ... Sunday morning
|
| .. repaired cleaned and provisioned.
| It's obvious he hasn't been to the BVI's!!
|
| CM
|
| "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| ...
| | Have you ever seen a charter base at changeover? Hundreds of boats
| powering
| | back home in 15 knot winds, the next day hundreds of boats powering out
to
| | Anchorage #1 or #2 in 15 knot winds.
| |
| | I've chartered in the BVIs a number of times and no I've never seen
that.
| | LOL...
| | S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| | "No shirt, no skirt, full service"
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