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Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety
line on a harness?

Shoulder.


Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't dragging in
the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab something
and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back.
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yeah, like the guy who sailed by and picked up a mooring.

upwind under bare poles?
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I believe it was downwind, with the main draped loosely on the boom (which
was tacking back and forth), while BBQing a side of beef.


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yeah, like the guy who sailed by and picked up a mooring.


upwind under bare poles?


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I believe it was downwind, with the main draped loosely on the boom (which
was tacking back and forth), while BBQing a side of beef.


Chubby girl driving? yea, thats the one.
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Peter Wiley
 
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In article , Bobspirt
wrote:

Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety
line on a harness?

Shoulder.


Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't dragging in
the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab
something
and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back.


True if you're singlehanding. If you're on a working boat it's
necessary sometimes to be on a longer safety line.

PDW


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We used two tethers. One longer, one shorter, and the jack lines
didn't go the full length of the boat.

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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Bobspirt
wrote:

Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety
line on a harness?

Shoulder.


Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't

dragging in
the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab
something
and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back.


True if you're singlehanding. If you're on a working boat it's
necessary sometimes to be on a longer safety line.

PDW



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Good stuff but f***ing
expensive!

You could sell the helicopter if you're that stretched....

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I have to concur with that Tadpole..... plus any fool out that far and
using an Autohelm 4000 instead of a wind vane never mind no jack lines, no
harness....

I loved that little bit about a 15 ft line towed behind.... which would be
well past you before you surfaced from any fall..... combined with the
fact you can't pull yourself up a towed line at 4.5 knots.

It's a Bob dream play... could never be duplicated in real life but Bob
can't understand that reality since he has no experience.

My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the
Warp Engines offline. ;-)

CM


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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|
| Bobsprit wrote:
|
| The Boat: Cape Dory 36
| Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach
|
| What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or
vessels
| in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal
when you
| heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay
adjuster
| is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing.
The
| boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but
it's
| happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
| You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were
trailing.
| Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self
to the
| stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't
pull the
| ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing
you down
| fast.
|
| What can you do????
|
|
| Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus
| ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding
| 400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was
| actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position
| without taking additional precautions.
|
| I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an
| international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty),
| where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of
| mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they
| wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person,
| and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way,
| those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the
| height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore
| may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put
| themselves at risk to retrieve the fools.
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

| Bingo! BB wins the cupie doll! Anybody here ever tried this trick? Even
if you do it on purpose,
| just to see, it's pretty much impossible even with a 25 foot line. Before
anyone hangs a line of
| their stern and thinks that this is a substitute for proper seamanship
they should try it, with someone
| still on the boat to drive of course, your illusions of safety will be
quickly evaporated.

I tried it on Overproof at about four knots....... I just tagged the 3/4
mark of a 100 foot floating yellow 3/4" line. This was knowing what was
about to occur. There is no way to pull yourself up that rope! NO WAY!

CM


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OzOne's House Sitter wrote in message

| Ummm actually I have, and found it relatively easy to haul myself back
| up to the boat.
| The trick is to turn onto your back.
|
| Now you can try it again.....

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa...... just wait till Ozzy gets back from France!!

On your back.... bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

Grab a clue!

CM



 
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