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that's true Oz, I've tried something similar while water skiing (after
losing both skis). I more or less backfloated and pulled hand over hand to the moving boat (while my friends taunted me from the boat). Reduce the drag and it's not so difficult. Scout OzOne wrote Ummm actually I have, and found it relatively easy to haul myself back up to the boat. The trick is to turn onto your back. Now you can try it again..... Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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I heard of an old guy...in his 70s or so who's boat got away from
him during a storm. He was anchored and motoring, I believe and the rode parted. He was thrown off the boat, which then motored away, turned around on its own toward him. As it went by, he grabbed on the hauled himself in. Grabbed what? The parted anchor rode? Hauled himself up where? Over the bow? Surely not up the stern with the prop churning. Sounds fishy. |
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What? You want that sandwich too? 8 )
Oz, I'm still waiting for you to tell me why someone would trim sails to be just barely luffing when close hauled motor sailing? I figure either you or Doug will get those 15 points. That fellow was a Dutch sailor with thousands of sea miles. Hint: He is both smart and lazy. Bart OzOne wrote On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:46:53 GMT, "Bart Senior" scribbled thusly: I'd tie a rolling hitch with the line to itself and inch my back on board, or toss the end of the line over a lifeline and use that as a 2:1 purchase. I wouldn't let anything stand between me and that sandwich! Ta daaaaaaa! We have a thinker among us. Someone who won't ever consider "just letting go" Bart, I congratulate you. We think alike (Is that good?) ;-) Oz1...of the 3 twins. |
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I've read of people motoring when an all chain rode become
bar-taut. Motoring will ease the stress on the rode. This is a great reason for adding a stretchy snubber. Scott Vernon wrote You been reading your Capt. Neal comic books again. ''anchored and motoring'', WTF? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message I heard of an old guy...in his 70s or so who's boat got away from him during a storm. He was anchored and motoring, I believe and the rode parted. He was thrown off the boat, which then motored away, turned around on its own toward him. As it went by, he grabbed on the hauled himself in. Has anyone else heard this or has the reference? |
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Which includes his underwire bra I'm sure.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com wrote in message ... On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:30:40 -0400, Horvath wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 13:52:02 GMT, wrote this crap: Just for fun, drag a 200 foot rope behind a boat that is traveling at 4.5 knots. Make it a 500 foot rope if you prefer. Jump overboard and grab it while in the water. Then see if you can pull yourself back to the boat. You can't. Jack LaLanne in his prime couldn't do it. Neither could Buster Crabb, Mike Tyson or Ahnold the Barbarian. Ain't gonna happen. I've done it. Oh, look! Horvath thinks he's Spiderman. That must explain why he likes to run around town in his underwear. BB Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Scott Vernon wrote:
Do you trust your wife enough to drive the boat while trying this in the middle of the ocean? Scotty I don't trust her to drive the boat period. Cheers Marty |
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"Bobspirt" wrote in message ... I heard of an old guy...in his 70s or so who's boat got away from him during a storm. He was anchored and motoring, I believe and the rode parted. He was thrown off the boat, which then motored away, turned around on its own toward him. As it went by, he grabbed on the hauled himself in. Grabbed what? The parted anchor rode? Hauled himself up where? Over the bow? Surely not up the stern with the prop churning. Sounds fishy. yeah, like the guy who sailed by and picked up a mooring. |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: Do you trust your wife enough to drive the boat while trying this in the middle of the ocean? Scotty I don't trust her to drive the boat when period. They do tend to get a little crazy then. |
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In article , OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:50:39 GMT, scribbled thusly: Just for fun, drag a 200 foot rope behind a boat that is traveling at 4.5 knots. Make it a 500 foot rope if you prefer. Jump overboard and grab it while in the water. Then see if you can pull yourself back to the boat. You can't. Jack LaLanne in his prime couldn't do it. Neither could Buster Crabb, Mike Tyson or Ahnold the Barbarian. Ain't gonna happen. BB Ummm you obviously haven't tried it! Ummm you obviously haven't tried it! Ummm actually I have, and found it relatively easy to haul myself back up to the boat. The trick is to turn onto your back. Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety line on a harness? Shoulder. Why? If it's in the middle of your chest, you'll drown due to the angle of drag thru the water. If it's between shoulders, you'll skid nicely over the water but have no ability to reach the line to haul yourself along. Also a PITA to attach/detach the safety line. An attachment at the shoulder allows access and low drag. Also it's more comfortable if you're sleeping in the damn thing. Our Stormy Seas floatcoats with built-in harness have 2 attachment points, one at chest level and one between shoulders but these are working coats for extreme conditions. The between shoulders point is for use by a helicopter or the like retrieving unconscious or incapacitated people. PDW |
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Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety
line on a harness? Shoulder. Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't dragging in the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab something and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back. |
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yeah, like the guy who sailed by and picked up a mooring.
upwind under bare poles? |
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I believe it was downwind, with the main draped loosely on the boom (which
was tacking back and forth), while BBQing a side of beef. "Bobspirt" wrote in message ... yeah, like the guy who sailed by and picked up a mooring. upwind under bare poles? |
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I believe it was downwind, with the main draped loosely on the boom (which
was tacking back and forth), while BBQing a side of beef. Chubby girl driving? yea, thats the one. |
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In article , Bobspirt
wrote: Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety line on a harness? Shoulder. Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't dragging in the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab something and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back. True if you're singlehanding. If you're on a working boat it's necessary sometimes to be on a longer safety line. PDW |
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We used two tethers. One longer, one shorter, and the jack lines
didn't go the full length of the boat. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Peter Wiley" wrote in message . .. In article , Bobspirt wrote: Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety line on a harness? Shoulder. Nah. Tether on the harness should be short enough so you aren't dragging in the water if you go over anyway. For it, you want to be able to grab something and pull yourself back up - not be scrabbling behind your back. True if you're singlehanding. If you're on a working boat it's necessary sometimes to be on a longer safety line. PDW |
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Good stuff but f***ing
expensive! You could sell the helicopter if you're that stretched.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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I have to concur with that Tadpole..... plus any fool out that far and
using an Autohelm 4000 instead of a wind vane never mind no jack lines, no harness.... I loved that little bit about a 15 ft line towed behind.... which would be well past you before you surfaced from any fall..... combined with the fact you can't pull yourself up a towed line at 4.5 knots. It's a Bob dream play... could never be duplicated in real life but Bob can't understand that reality since he has no experience. My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the Warp Engines offline. ;-) CM "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... | | | Bobsprit wrote: | | The Boat: Cape Dory 36 | Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach | | What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or vessels | in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal when you | heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay adjuster | is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing. The | boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but it's | happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!! | You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were trailing. | Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self to the | stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't pull the | ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing you down | fast. | | What can you do???? | | | Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus | ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding | 400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was | actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position | without taking additional precautions. | | I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an | international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty), | where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of | mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they | wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person, | and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way, | those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the | height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore | may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put | themselves at risk to retrieve the fools. | | -- | Flying Tadpole | | ------------------------- | Break Away, Sail Away and putz away | now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message | Bingo! BB wins the cupie doll! Anybody here ever tried this trick? Even if you do it on purpose, | just to see, it's pretty much impossible even with a 25 foot line. Before anyone hangs a line of | their stern and thinks that this is a substitute for proper seamanship they should try it, with someone | still on the boat to drive of course, your illusions of safety will be quickly evaporated. I tried it on Overproof at about four knots....... I just tagged the 3/4 mark of a 100 foot floating yellow 3/4" line. This was knowing what was about to occur. There is no way to pull yourself up that rope! NO WAY! CM |
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OzOne's House Sitter wrote in message | Ummm actually I have, and found it relatively easy to haul myself back | up to the boat. | The trick is to turn onto your back. | | Now you can try it again..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa...... just wait till Ozzy gets back from France!! On your back.... bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!!! Grab a clue! CM |
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That would be basic Fall Arrest Equipment... the attachment is at the back
between the shoulder blades. I'm currently using gear like that on inspections of retaining walls along a 300 foot cliff. Typical sailing harnesses are attached at the chest. Your safety lanyard should be just long enough to stop you alongside the hull above the water. Jack lines need to be thought out and secure. If you have any clothing on, the drag would prevent you from even entertaining the idea of pulling yourself up a line while under motion. The manner Ozzy describes is pure dockside fallacy... or he's accomplished it at 2 knots in dead calm water with nothing but a bathing suit on. Try that "back pull" in any sea and it's futile. He won't do it even on his back at 4.5 knots! I've tried this when an old fisherman challenged my belief it was entirely feasible..... I now understand it's not an option. The only safe option is to stay onboard..... unless your boat is stopped. CM "Peter Wiley" wrote in message | Sounds reasonable. Where's the best place for the clip for your safety | line on a harness? | | Shoulder. | | Why? If it's in the middle of your chest, you'll drown due to the angle | of drag thru the water. If it's between shoulders, you'll skid nicely | over the water but have no ability to reach the line to haul yourself | along. Also a PITA to attach/detach the safety line. An attachment at | the shoulder allows access and low drag. Also it's more comfortable if | you're sleeping in the damn thing. | | Our Stormy Seas floatcoats with built-in harness have 2 attachment | points, one at chest level and one between shoulders but these are | working coats for extreme conditions. The between shoulders point is | for use by a helicopter or the like retrieving unconscious or | incapacitated people. |
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OzOne wrote in message ... | On Sat, 3 Jul 2004 21:06:49 -0300, "Capt. Mooron" | scribbled thusly: | | If you have any clothing on, the drag would prevent you from even | entertaining the idea of pulling yourself up a line while under motion. | | Weener! Don't you have some dusting to do there "House Sitter"?? ;-) CM |
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I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line
behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two. Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this. It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability. That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books. Capt. Mooron wrote "Martin Baxter" wrote in message | Bingo! BB wins the cupie doll! Anybody here ever tried this trick? Even if you do it on purpose, | just to see, it's pretty much impossible even with a 25 foot line. Before anyone hangs a line of | their stern and thinks that this is a substitute for proper seamanship they should try it, with someone | still on the boat to drive of course, your illusions of safety will be quickly evaporated. I tried it on Overproof at about four knots....... I just tagged the 3/4 mark of a 100 foot floating yellow 3/4" line. This was knowing what was about to occur. There is no way to pull yourself up that rope! NO WAY! CM |
Proposition: The Fool's Act
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the Warp Engines offline. ;-) That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Break Away, Sail Away and putz away now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
Proposition: The Fool's Act
"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | | | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the | Warp Engines offline. ;-) | | | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out... May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer! Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a Borg Cube? ;-P Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated! CM |
Proposition: The Fool's Act
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | | | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the | Warp Engines offline. ;-) | | | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out... May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer! Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a Borg Cube? ;-P Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated! 1. The Farce is what I'm working on. 2. If you've contracted MCs paranoia, you might find it helps to think of the boat as a Cubie Doll. 3. Who's ass is being immolated?? Does the SPCA/RSPCA know? (see, we keep our "G" classification!) -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Break Away, Sail Away and putz away now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
Proposition: The Fool's Act
"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message | ... | | | | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | | | | | | | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter | | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking | the | | Warp Engines offline. ;-) | | | | | | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out... | | May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer! | | Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a | Borg Cube? ;-P | | Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated! | | 1. The Farce is what I'm working on. Do Tell...... may I point out that general consensus suggests you let the Farce guide you as opposed to guiding the Farce. | 2. If you've contracted MCs paranoia, you might find it helps to | think of the boat as a Cubie Doll. I'm immune to the Paranoia virus due to the fact I contracted Terminal Arrogance in my youth. | 3. Who's ass is being immolated?? Does the SPCA/RSPCA know? | (see, we keep our "G" classification!) Having seen first hand the ability required to sail a Bolger Design.... I'm prepared to supply crew to all the Bolger designs racing during the Wooden Boat Festival. Now I just have to figure out were to place the sandbags on those scarecrows! ;-) CM |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 04:22:24 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote: I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two. Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this. It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability. That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books. He also said he had a light line sistered to the towed line that would trip the windvane steerer so the boat would head up into the wind. Even Tristan never claimed he could pull himself up a line at 4.5 knots. lol Mark E. Williams |
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Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P I KNEW it! And I saw the need for assimilation just last week! -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
Proposition: The Fool's Act
"Capt. Mooron" wrote: "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message | ... | | | | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote: | | | | | | | | My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter | | Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking | the | | Warp Engines offline. ;-) | | | | | | That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out... | | May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer! | | Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a | Borg Cube? ;-P | | Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated! | | 1. The Farce is what I'm working on. Do Tell...... may I point out that general consensus suggests you let the Farce guide you as opposed to guiding the Farce. And just who is this General COnsensus? Having seen first hand the ability required to sail a Bolger Design.... I'm prepared to supply crew to all the Bolger designs racing during the Wooden Boat Festival. Now I just have to figure out were to place the sandbags on those scarecrows! ;-) A wimp. TWO of us used to handle Flying Tadpole II successfully in far more wind and wave than the Mahone Bay harbour turns on, without recourse to sand bags! -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Break Away, Sail Away and putz away now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
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katysails wrote: Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a Borg Cube? ;-P I KNEW it! And I saw the need for assimilation just last week! Ha! ANOTHER one for the SPCA hunt list. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Break Away, Sail Away and putz away now at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
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"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message | | And just who is this General COnsensus? The Commander & Chief of the Army of Public Opinion! CM |
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message .. . I read a story by Tristan Jones that one should always drag a line behind you. It would make sense if it was tied to the wheel somehow, to stall the boat or heave-to, or popped all the sheets out of their cleats. It makes more sense to wear a tether, or two. Tristan Jones also said you should have a collision patch rigged and ready to go on deck. I don't know anyone who does this. It would get in the way, come apart, or get snarled beyond usability. That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books. Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire life story was a work of fiction, even his name. http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm The funny thing, the author started out as an admirer trying to write a biography of Jones, he dug up all this information researching the book. John Cairns |
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life story was a work of fiction, even his name. http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm Gee...just like our own Capn Neal....who'd a thunk it? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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Well not quite, beyond this ng Neal is completely unknown, Arthur "Tristan"
Jones achieved at least some celebrity, and notoriety, in the end. I remember a few years back about an effort to restore the boat that he claimed to have sailed at the highest altitude on record, some lake in the Andes, I guess this claim was also a hoax, though it was accepted at the time. John Cairns "katysails" wrote in message ... life story was a work of fiction, even his name. http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm Gee...just like our own Capn Neal....who'd a thunk it? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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I guess this claim was also a hoax, though it was accepted at the
time. It was a good read....and quite funny....I had my doubts about the reality of the whole thing but the man certainly had a fertile imagination....hey, so he didn't do all those things...he still sailed.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Database: 468 - Release Date: 6/27/2004 |
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John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think
you owe me an apology. I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000. Look up the following: One Hand for Yourself One for the Ship: The Essentials of Single Handed Sailing by Tristan Jones on Amazon.com. My review was published 32 months before the book you mentioned Wayward Sailor by Anthony Dalton, was published on April 22, 2003 A copy of my review follows. I was the only one saying the guy was a fraud, of many reviews. *********************************************** MY REVIEW *********************************************** I stopped buying Tristan Jones books because I felt there was little substance to them and some fabrication added to help sell them to the publishers. All the books are skimpy fast reads. I hope my opinion is changed, but I'm unwilling to invest in any more of them to find out. He has a some of good advice for sailors at sea. However, I have to say, that like most of his books I take what he writes with a grain of salt. And, some of what he recommends, I doubt he ever did himself. That is not to say his advice is bad, just not practical in some cases. I doubt many seaman would follow all of his advice. For example, he recommends that single handed sailor drag a line behind the boat hooked up to a trip wire arrangement to heave the boat to. Great advice. I doubt anyone follows it or that Tristan Jones did so. That doesn't mean it is not good advice. This sort of thinking is smart thinking, planning ahead for an emergency. Likewise his advice for having a triangular patch of canvas ready and rigged on the bow with control lines all set ready to cover a hole below the waterline should the unlike event happen that one gets holed below the waterline. This is just something that would get in the way, foul up something else on the boat and cause more trouble than it's worth. I think a better idea is have one ready to go and practice rigging it. Perhaps these ideas may make sense when you are sitting at a typewriter trying to put enough substance in a book so you can sell it to a publisher. This is my impression of Tristan Jones. If you get something out of a book like this, you got something that may give you an idea that will save your boat or yourself. I gave it 3 stars because I felt it was like some of his other books, short books made in an attempt to make money to fund his roving lifestyle as a wandering seaman. Hey he pulled it off. Maybe you can too! Bring a laptop if you go cruising, there is bound to be a story in it. ********************************************* Link to my review: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...m_cr_dp_2_1/00 2-5919338-6697627?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER ******************************************** John Cairns wrote "Bart Senior" wrote. That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desparately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books. Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire life story was a work of fiction, even his name. http://tinylink.com/?MpHaSQE6hm John Cairns |
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message t... John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think you owe me an apology. I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000. What you posted originally: "That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desperately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books." You didn't indicate that you knew Jones was a fraud. There are a lot of authors out there desperately trying to get published, most of them probably aren't frauds, though some of them probably don't have anything worthwhile to say. What I posted originally: "Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire life story was a work of fiction, even his name." I thought it worth mentioning since you didn't. I can't honestly comment on any of Jones' books as I have never read any of them, he was a little before my time. Probably the only reason I recall any of it was the Dalton book was mentioned by the skipper on the Atlantic crossing, a published author, who happened to read the book and mentioned it was a good read, and I recall vaguely a review published in "Sailing" when the Dalton book was released. John Cairns |
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I owe you an apology, John. I was out of line.
I thought you were implying I was mindlessly repeating other peoples conclusions. John Cairns wrote "Bart Senior" wrote John are you calling me a liar. Here is proof, I'm not. I think you owe me an apology. I figured out Tristan Jones was a bull****ter long ago. You can check my Amazon.Com review of 7 Aug 2000. What you posted originally: "That was when I realized, Jones was starving and desperately trying to impress his uninformed editors enough to get published, so he could eat. He was not writing worthwhile books." "Of course you must have read by now that Tristan was a fraud, his entire life story was a work of fiction, even his name." I thought it worth mentioning since you didn't. John Cairns |
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