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We brought the boat back in really nice winds and picked up some friends at
Bayside. Sailing out near the Throgsneck bridge we were really experiencing
some odd winds, rapid changes of direction and strong gusts. It was tough to
get a proper set and the chop was making things pretty sloppy. Eventually the
wind appeared to die down and we sailed behind Fort Totten for a while. The
winds had certainly died down and I shook out the reef and popped the genoa all
the way. Perfect as we sailed near Execution Rocks 60 minutes later and
then....SLAM!!!! A sudden gust of wind pushed Alien over further than ever
before. I was standing almost fully on the wall of the cockpit and everyone was
hanging on. The wind abated just as suddenly and we popped up. I looked to port
and a Catalina 34 or 36 had her mainsail split. A few other boats were getting
their wits about them after the shocking gust. I felt bad about the guy with
the dead mainsail, but it looked repairable.
Back at our slip I heard that a J24 was knocked down as well. It was really a
fun sail! Hope you all got out there.

RB

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Bobsprit wrote:

... SLAM!!!! A sudden gust of wind pushed Alien over further than
ever before. I was standing almost fully on the wall of the cockpit
and everyone was hanging on. ...

Dearie, me, Bob - you're reduced to poaching brags from the newbie!


--
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without pics, we don't believe a word.


"Wally" wrote in message
...
Bobsprit wrote:

... SLAM!!!! A sudden gust of wind pushed Alien over further than
ever before. I was standing almost fully on the wall of the cockpit
and everyone was hanging on. ...

Dearie, me, Bob - you're reduced to poaching brags from the newbie!


--
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www.wally.myby.co.uk

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The Catalina 36's are sleaker and very pretty, while the Catalina 34's
are more squared off and boxy looking.

It's easy to tell them apart. You will think to yourself, that's a pretty
boat and then find out it's a C-36.

http://www.catalina36.org/Brochure90_1.jpg

http://www.c34.org/images/windy.gif

Bobsprit wrote

hanging on. The wind abated just as suddenly and we popped up. I looked to
port
and a Catalina 34 or 36 had her mainsail split.

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Just imagine if this idiot acutally every sailed outside the bathtub like
waters of the Long Island Sound.
You'd thing maybe he try sailing to Block or at least the range of his shore
power cord.

We brought the boat back in really nice winds and picked up some friends
at
Bayside. Sailing out near the Throgsneck bridge we were really
experiencing
some odd winds, rapid changes of direction and strong gusts. It was tough
to
get a proper set and the chop was making things pretty sloppy. Eventually
the
wind appeared to die down and we sailed behind Fort Totten for a while.
The
winds had certainly died down and I shook out the reef and popped the
genoa all
the way. Perfect as we sailed near Execution Rocks 60 minutes later and
then....SLAM!!!! A sudden gust of wind pushed Alien over further than ever
before. I was standing almost fully on the wall of the cockpit and
everyone was
hanging on. The wind abated just as suddenly and we popped up. I looked to
port
and a Catalina 34 or 36 had her mainsail split. A few other boats were
getting
their wits about them after the shocking gust. I felt bad about the guy
with
the dead mainsail, but it looked repairable.
Back at our slip I heard that a J24 was knocked down as well. It was
really a
fun sail! Hope you all got out there.

RB

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You'd thing maybe he try sailing to Block or at least the range of his shore
power cord.


Help!!! The non-sailing sockpuppet is being mean to me!!!!

RB

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You'd thing maybe he try sailing to Block or at least the range of his shore
power cord.


Help!!! The non-sailing sockpuppet is being mean to me!!!!

RB

So, at least he was funny. Probably the snap from the cord that heeled you
over and not the wind.

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Back at our slip I heard that a J24 was knocked down as well.

Not saying much Bob. J24 are notoriously light air boats.


Really? J24's are knocked down every day? Oh.

RB

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They're not light wind boats here. They sail just like every other boat.
Typical wind speeds here are 20-25kts. They're wet boats but not
light wind boats. They like to be sailed flat not heeled. There are
dozens of them on the bay on any given day in the summer.

--
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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 27 Jun 2004 23:31:58 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

Back at our slip I heard that a J24 was knocked down as well.

Not saying much Bob. J24 are notoriously light air boats. Used to crew a
P-30 racing the Coasties on their J24s, and they were always the first to
retire when the wind piped up.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

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They're not light wind boats here. They sail just like every other boat.
Typical wind speeds here are 20-25kts. They're wet boats but not
light wind boats.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they've been considered "light
air" boats for a long time. They certainly don't get knocked down easily. I've
sailed them with a full main and blade in 25 knots for an exciting ride.
Of course it's all relative. When I sail my friends J30, it seems like a light
air boat compared to my buddies bristol.

RB

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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they've been considered "light
air" boats for a long time. They certainly don't get knocked down easily.

Don't know what he means by "light air boats", but they certainly do get
knocked down easily. In fact, they capsize quite readily.

I've
sailed them with a full main and blade in 25 knots for an exciting ride.

After showing yourself unwilling to even put a main in 15 knots in your own
pictures, the above statement is highly dubious, bub.

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I was thinking the same thing. I don't think they've been considered "light
air" boats for a long time. They certainly don't get knocked down easily.

Don't know what he means by "light air boats", but they certainly do get
knocked down easily. In fact, they capsize quite readily.


Bwahahahahaha! He's caught again. Readily?? Bwahahahahahaha! Got any pics
showing you at the helm of a J24???

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/j24suzane.jpg

"Trouble" is a very winning boat in my area. As you can see, even Suzzy manages
NOT to capsize readily!!!


RB

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Don't know what he means by "light air boats", but they certainly do get
knocked down easily. In fact, they capsize quite readily.

Bwahahahahaha! He's caught again. Readily?? Bwahahahahahaha! Got any pics
showing you at the helm of a J24???

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/j24suzane.jpg

"Trouble" is a very winning boat in my area. As you can see, even Suzzy
manages
NOT to capsize readily!!!

A pic of your wife is proof enough that a j24 is not tender? With those powers
of deduction, it is no wonder you appreciated M Moore's film.

Also, you always say that that j24 that your friend sails won many races, but
it does not appear to have belonged to any established fleet. Enlighten us,
please.

I personally have broached a j24 many times, but don't take my word for it.
Try

Manhattan Yacht Club:
The Sinking of #12
(excerpted from a club newsletter)

On Wednesday, July 29, 1998, J/24 #12 was participating in a club race. The
wind was from the West at 18 knots. As the race started, a wind storm blew up
with gusts of 25-30 knots. Several teams attempted to fly spinnakers, including
#12. #12 spun out of control several times. During one broach, her spinnaker
filled with water, causing a complete capsize and preventing the boat from
righting herself. #12 then went completely turtle.

Or from the mouth of Jon Kostecki:
"It was 25 knots or so. We recovered; but it was just a little strange. I
didn't know it was really possible. I'd capsized J/24s twice before so I guess
I shouldn't have been too surprised."

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On 27 Jun 2004, (Bobsprit) wrote in part:

We . . . picked up some friends at Bayside
[Queens, N.Y.] . . . . near the Throgsneck bridge . . . .

Where can one do this exactly? Is what used to be known as the
Whitestone Marina & Watersports Center sill operating? other?

. . . near Execution Rocks . . . [some boats
were affected by strong wind gusts] . . . .
It was really a fun sail!

We saw Stuff like this, too, but also were bemused by the number of
smaller racing boats (e.g., near Larchmont) that stayed out and seemed
to be having a wonderful time.

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A pic of your wife is proof enough that a j24 is not tender?

It's proof that we sail them. You don't. How may times have you been aboard a
J24? How about ANY sailboat? Show us a pic. Suzzy sails more that you and she
even helped step a mast on a J24 two weeks ago. You simply read Cruising World
and spout crap!

You poor thing! Bwahahahahahaha! J24's READILY capsize??? Yeah...happens every
day! Bwahahahahaha!

RB

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Also, you always say that that j24 that your friend sails won many races, but
it does not appear to have belonged to any established fleet. Enlighten us,
please.

Are you sure. Bury yourself deeper!


RB

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I personally have broached a j24 many times, but don't take my word for it.


Hmmm, my ex-girlfriend owned, sailed and raced J24 "Dimples" for 5 seasons on
Little Neck Bay and in all conditions. She NEVER broached the boat. Then again,
she knew how to sail the boat.

Don't stop now, Spirt! You're doing REALLY well!!! Please show us a pic of you
sailing a J24. Thanks!

RB

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We . . . picked up some friends at Bayside
[Queens, N.Y.] . . . . near the Throgsneck bridge . . . .

Where can one do this exactly? Is what used to be known as the
Whitestone Marina & Watersports Center sill operating? other?

You could pick up people at several small clubs between the bridges. But we
usually make pick-ups at the Bayside Marine where we used to keep our Catalina.

RB

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We saw Stuff like this, too, but also were bemused by the number of
smaller racing boats (e.g., near Larchmont) that stayed out and seemed
to be having a wonderful time.


It was a bit challenging, not due to wind strength, but because wind direction
changed so often and so strongly. Not a good day for a relaxing sail. Everyone
was certainly have a good time for the most part.
Of course this wasn't "real" sailing for someone like Mooron!

RB

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Oh, man, 4 replies! What a flapper.

A pic of your wife is proof enough that a j24 is not tender?

It's proof that we sail them.

But we all know you know nothing about sailing, so it goes little to support
your argument about a J24's stability.

You don't. How may times have you been aboard a
J24? How about ANY sailboat? Show us a pic.

Pic, pic, pic. You cluck like a damn rooster about pics. Try making a case in
words. That is where you need the practice the most.

she
even helped step a mast on a J24 two weeks ago.

Well, isn't she Santa's little helper.

Bwahahahahahaha! J24's READILY capsize??? Yeah...happens
every day!

Remember, RB it can only happen if it puts sails up.

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Also, you always say that that j24 that your friend sails won many races, but
it does not appear to have belonged to any established fleet. Enlighten us,
please.

Are you sure. Bury yourself deeper!

Fire away. No self-respecting successful racer would socialize with you.

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I personally have broached a j24 many times, but don't take my word for it.



Hmmm, my ex-girlfriend owned, sailed and raced J24 "Dimples" for 5 seasons on
Little Neck Bay and in all conditions. She NEVER broached the boat. Then
again,
she knew how to sail the boat.

She never even broached, let alone capsized? Yet she sailed it in ALL
conditions? Methinks I smell a liar.

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It was a bit challenging, not due to wind strength, but because wind
direction
changed so often and so strongly. Not a good day for a relaxing sail.

Get out onto some open water, you lubber.

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She never even broached, let alone capsized? Yet she sailed it in ALL
conditions? Methinks I smell a liar.


I got bad news for you. The guy who owns trouble has sailed J-Boats for 20
years. He's raced for 18 years. He's crossed the pond 5 times. He hasn't
broached either.
You're not supposed to lose control of the boat.

RB

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She never even broached, let alone capsized? Yet she sailed it in ALL
conditions? Methinks I smell a liar.

I got bad news for you. The guy who owns trouble has sailed J-Boats for 20
years. He's raced for 18 years. He's crossed the pond 5 times. He hasn't
broached either.
You're not supposed to lose control of the boat.

RB

I guess in the 10 minutes since I posted the above you called and asked him.
If he raced a J24 for 18 years, I GUARANTEE he spun out, probably a number of
times. Your story just doesn't hold together, RB, because as usual, you are
lying. But BTW, since you seem to know his background so well, which fleet did
he race so successfully in?

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"Bobsprit" wrote
You're not supposed to lose control of the boat.


Who wrote this header?

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
without pics, we don't believe a word.

I will send you some pictures that will knock your socks off, big boy.

Suzy

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I will send you some pictures that will knock your socks off, big boy.

But what if he's not into gravid females?

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...


Suzzy sails more that you and she
even helped step a mast on a J24 two weeks ago.

Oh shucks, all I did was lick the sweat off the guys balls that was
holding the mast. And the other guy that was helping.

And the 2 guys in the boat next door who came over to watch.

And the dock boy who walked by.

Suzy

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
I will send you some pictures that will knock your socks off, big boy.

But what if he's not into gravid females?

hey now, just hold on there, I might be..... soon as I find out what they
are.


Scotty
"Women and cats will do as they please, so men should kick the
crap out of both until they behave." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Sow, expecting a litter.

Scott Vernon wrote:
"katysails" wrote in message
...
I will send you some pictures that will knock your socks off, big
boy.

But what if he's not into gravid females?

hey now, just hold on there, I might be..... soon as I find out what
they are.


Scotty
"Women and cats will do as they please, so men should kick the
crap out of both until they behave." - Robert A. Heinlein

--
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Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.

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sow what?

"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
m...
Sow, expecting a litter.

Scott Vernon wrote:
"katysails" wrote in message
...
I will send you some pictures that will knock your socks off, big
boy.

But what if he's not into gravid females?

hey now, just hold on there, I might be..... soon as I find out what
they are.


Scotty
"Women and cats will do as they please, so men should kick the
crap out of both until they behave." - Robert A. Heinlein

--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.

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Scotty asked: sow what?

Seed, in the Bibical sense....

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been there, done that.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scotty asked: sow what?

Seed, in the Bibical sense....

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