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Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Anyone know?
Where do you fly the flag on your boat in port? At sea? When should you fly your flag? Anyone know the orgin of a 21 gun salute? Why would you fly your flag upside down? Whats and ensign flown for, and when, and were? Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Flying her upside down is a sign of distress.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... Anyone know? Where do you fly the flag on your boat in port? At sea? When should you fly your flag? Anyone know the orgin of a 21 gun salute? Why would you fly your flag upside down? Whats and ensign flown for, and when, and were? Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. The American flag is folded 13 times with each fold symbolizes in the following order--life, belief in eternal life, honoring veterans, trusting God, in tribute to our country, the pledge of allegiance, in tribute to our armed forces, in honor of women and our mothers, in honor of our fathers, the Jewish God, the Christian God, and finally "In God We Trust". The final tuck reminds us of the soldiers and sailors who wore the cocked hat of our early history. The US Flag, is called the National Ensign--50-stars and 13 stripes. When not under way, a ship flies the national ensign from a flagstaff at the stern from 8:00 a.m. until sunset. When entering port at night the ensign should fly from the gaff to establish its nationality. Under way it should be flown from the gaff, or leech of the sail at approximately the same position where a gaff would be. Ashore. Same basic rules. A proper flag pole will have a gaff and spreaders to duplicate that of a sailing vessel. It flies at the top of the flagpole, except that it flies at the gaff of any pole or mast that is has a gaff. It should be flown on most holidays with a few notable exceptions. However, I feel it is never improper to display the flag on any date. The National Ensign should be well maintained. Don't fly a ratty looking National Ensign. I approve of the people, yacht clubs, or others who proudly fly it at night well illuminated. The proper size for the national flag is one inch of flag length per foot of boat length, going to the next larger standard size, if necessary. Upside down it's used ONLY as a sign of distress. It disrespectful to fly it upside down in other than a distress situation where life and safety are threatened with immediate danger that demands quick action. There is also the Yacht Ensign, fouled anchor encircled by stars, which I don't think much of. It is more proper to fly the US Flag. And it is never improper to fly the US flag in lieu of Yacht Ensign. Lame people fly the Yacht Ensign. Patriots fly the US Flag or National Ensign. Joe wrote Anyone know? Where do you fly the flag on your boat in port? At sea? When should you fly your flag? Anyone know the orgin of a 21 gun salute? Why would you fly your flag upside down? Whats and ensign flown for, and when, and were? Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
What is the significance of the admiralty flag?
"Bart Senior" wrote in message et... The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. The American flag is folded 13 times with each fold symbolizes in the following order--life, belief in eternal life, honoring veterans, trusting God, in tribute to our country, the pledge of allegiance, in tribute to our armed forces, in honor of women and our mothers, in honor of our fathers, the Jewish God, the Christian God, and finally "In God We Trust". The final tuck reminds us of the soldiers and sailors who wore the cocked hat of our early history. The US Flag, is called the National Ensign--50-stars and 13 stripes. When not under way, a ship flies the national ensign from a flagstaff at the stern from 8:00 a.m. until sunset. When entering port at night the ensign should fly from the gaff to establish its nationality. Under way it should be flown from the gaff, or leech of the sail at approximately the same position where a gaff would be. Ashore. Same basic rules. A proper flag pole will have a gaff and spreaders to duplicate that of a sailing vessel. It flies at the top of the flagpole, except that it flies at the gaff of any pole or mast that is has a gaff. It should be flown on most holidays with a few notable exceptions. However, I feel it is never improper to display the flag on any date. The National Ensign should be well maintained. Don't fly a ratty looking National Ensign. I approve of the people, yacht clubs, or others who proudly fly it at night well illuminated. The proper size for the national flag is one inch of flag length per foot of boat length, going to the next larger standard size, if necessary. Upside down it's used ONLY as a sign of distress. It disrespectful to fly it upside down in other than a distress situation where life and safety are threatened with immediate danger that demands quick action. There is also the Yacht Ensign, fouled anchor encircled by stars, which I don't think much of. It is more proper to fly the US Flag. And it is never improper to fly the US flag in lieu of Yacht Ensign. Lame people fly the Yacht Ensign. Patriots fly the US Flag or National Ensign. Joe wrote Anyone know? Where do you fly the flag on your boat in port? At sea? When should you fly your flag? Anyone know the orgin of a 21 gun salute? Why would you fly your flag upside down? Whats and ensign flown for, and when, and were? Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Flying her upside down is a sign of distress.
Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. RB |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
That's still a sign of distress. And, I got the "she" part right too.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. RB |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Bart Senior wrote:
The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
On 25 Jun 2004 03:53:55 GMT, (Boobsprit) wrote this
crap: Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. **** you! asshole! I've never hoisted a flag wrong, or folded it wrong, you anti-American scummy piece of ****. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
you anti-American scummy piece of ****.
Your mama!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
"Wolfie" wrote in message ...
Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Joe wrote:
"Wolfie" wrote in message ... Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Joe Rubbish! By 1730 the Royal Navy (British that is) routinely fired 21 gun salutes for certain anniversaries. Cheers Marty |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Bobsprit wrote:
Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. If Horvath's on your boat you have every reason to fly the flag upside down. -- //-Walt // // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Joe wrote:
"Wolfie" wrote in message ... Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Argue with the Army's Center for Military History and the Navy's Naval Historical Center: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/salute.htm http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq40-1.htm |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote: "Wolfie" wrote Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Rubbish! By 1730 the Royal Navy (British that is) routinely fired 21 gun salutes for certain anniversaries. Rubbish is certainly right. http://www.snopes.com/military/21gun.htm The 21 gun salute is not of American origin and predates the American Revolution. The 1776 thing is just a coincidence, no matter what misinformation might have been dumped in you email inbox by clueless people who middlessly forward everything they get without checking to see if it's true or even plausible. BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has become old and worn out? -- //-Walt // // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
There are a bunch of references to the 21-gun salute being due to the
sum of the digits 1776, I can see where Bart got this info. However they just don't look quite deeply enough into the matter. For one thing, the 21-gun salute was not standard in the U.S. military until about 50 years later... and none of the other countries using the 21-gun salute have any reason whatever to honor the year 1776. Wolfie wrote: Argue with the Army's Center for Military History and the Navy's Naval Historical Center: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/salute.htm http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq40-1.htm I found this a rather interesting discussion too. Maybe we can lure some of these guys to participate here on A.S.A.? http://www.regiments.org/wombats/classics/21gun.txt Fresh Breezes- Doug 'And Keep Your Powder Dry' King |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Horass is clear distressed... hoist that fag Horass, I mean flag.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On 25 Jun 2004 03:53:55 GMT, (Boobsprit) wrote this crap: Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. **** you! asshole! I've never hoisted a flag wrong, or folded it wrong, you anti-American scummy piece of ****. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
He has a mama? No way!?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... you anti-American scummy piece of ****. Your mama!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
I believe you're supposed to bury it... burning can't be right, since
those assholes in Congress tried but failed to outlaw it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: "Wolfie" wrote Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Rubbish! By 1730 the Royal Navy (British that is) routinely fired 21 gun salutes for certain anniversaries. Rubbish is certainly right. http://www.snopes.com/military/21gun.htm The 21 gun salute is not of American origin and predates the American Revolution. The 1776 thing is just a coincidence, no matter what misinformation might have been dumped in you email inbox by clueless people who middlessly forward everything they get without checking to see if it's true or even plausible. BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has become old and worn out? -- //-Walt // // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
He has a mama? No way!?
It's what he calls his man-servant. He calls his sister "daddy." RB |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
I would think the reason for our 21 gun salute is whatever
we, as a nation, decide it is. DSK wrote There are a bunch of references to the 21-gun salute being due to the sum of the digits 1776, I can see where Bart got this info. However they just don't look quite deeply enough into the matter. For one thing, the 21-gun salute was not standard in the U.S. military until about 50 years later... and none of the other countries using the 21-gun salute have any reason whatever to honor the year 1776. Wolfie wrote: Argue with the Army's Center for Military History and the Navy's Naval Historical Center: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/salute.htm http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq40-1.htm I found this a rather interesting discussion too. Maybe we can lure some of these guys to participate here on A.S.A.? http://www.regiments.org/wombats/classics/21gun.txt Fresh Breezes- Doug 'And Keep Your Powder Dry' King |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Flag upside down?
After I've downed my third Manhattan! You right, Jon, it's a diaster! Ole Thom |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
I would think the reason for our 21 gun salute is whatever
we, as a nation, decide it is. Hear, hear! |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
They are burned with due reverence and respect.
Retiring Old Glory When the United States flag (Old Glory) becomes worn, torn, faded or badly soiled, it is time to replace it with a new flag, and the old flag should be "retired" with all the dignity and respect befitting our nation's flag. The traditional method of retirement is to incinerate the flag, but this does not mean that one should simply drop the entire flag (intact) into a fire. A flag ceases to be a flag when it is cut into pieces. In addition, it is easier to completely incinerate the flag, if it is cut into smaller pieces. A flag should never be torn up like an old bed sheet. It should be cut up with scissors or shears in a methodical manner. The corners of the flag should be stretched out over a table top and someone should cut the flag in half, vertically (be careful not to cut up the blue star field. Then, place the two halves together and cut them in half, horizontally. You will end up with four pieces of flag, one being the blue star field. Jonathan Ganz wrote I believe you're supposed to bury it... burning can't be right, since those assholes in Congress tried but failed to outlaw it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: "Wolfie" wrote Bart Senior wrote: The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. Salutes of 21 guns for national leaders predate 1776 and the American Revolution... Wrong, Bart is correct. Rubbish! By 1730 the Royal Navy (British that is) routinely fired 21 gun salutes for certain anniversaries. Rubbish is certainly right. http://www.snopes.com/military/21gun.htm The 21 gun salute is not of American origin and predates the American Revolution. The 1776 thing is just a coincidence, no matter what misinformation might have been dumped in you email inbox by clueless people who middlessly forward everything they get without checking to see if it's true or even plausible. BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has become old and worn out? -- //-Walt // // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
When is the Union Jack flown and where?
What the heck is a "Jack" anyway? |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
What is the proper location for a Japanese Flag in the home
of a Pearl Harbor verteran? |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
"Bob Crantz" wrote
What is the significance of the admiralty flag? For some reason this post showed up on Google, but not my other newsgroup reader. Admiralty Flag defines the nations admiraty law that applies to your vessel. If you are US Flagged then "US Admiralty Law" applies to you. Would it be appropriate for a retired Air Force officer to fly a National Ensign with yellow fringe on a privately owned vessel? Would it be appropriate to fly a yellow fringed US Flag on a US documented commercial vessel? |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Ships of the line had 21 guns on each side. To salute, or to show
friendliness, a ship would fire off all 21 guns on the same side & just before of passing another ship. Therefore not allowing enough time to reload and fire upon the other ship. Scotty "Joe" wrote in message om... Anyone know? Where do you fly the flag on your boat in port? At sea? When should you fly your flag? Anyone know the orgin of a 21 gun salute? Why would you fly your flag upside down? Whats and ensign flown for, and when, and were? Joe |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
in the toilet?
"Bart Senior" wrote in message t... What is the proper location for a Japanese Flag in the home of a Pearl Harbor verteran? |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
"Walt" wrote in message | BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has | become old and worn out? Send it to Iraq... they are running out of American Flags to burn in protest. CM |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
ruff week at work?
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Walt" wrote in message | BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has | become old and worn out? Send it to Iraq... they are running out of American Flags to burn in protest. CM |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Scott Vernon wrote:
Ships of the line had 21 guns on each side. To salute, or to show friendliness, a ship would fire off all 21 guns on the same side & just before of passing another ship. Therefore not allowing enough time to reload and fire upon the other ship. The idea is right but ships of the line had well more than 21 guns on a side. The 1st rates would have 100+ guns (50+ a side, assuming chasers are counted on a side) and the smallest ship of the line would be ~60. A frigate (like John Paul Jones' Bonhomme Richard) would have about that number, however (42 total.) But the idea's right anyway -- they wouldn't necessarily be able to fire the lower gun decks, cutting down the number, they'd want to leave some guns free to cover misfires, etc. |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Urban legend;
http://www.snopes.com/military/21gun.htm#add "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... The 21-gun salute comes from summing of the digits in the year 1776. |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
That was from memory. Upon googling further, there are several different
sites that differ on some of the details but the jist is the same. http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/faq/salute.htm -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "Wolfie" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: Ships of the line had 21 guns on each side. To salute, or to show friendliness, a ship would fire off all 21 guns on the same side & just before of passing another ship. Therefore not allowing enough time to reload and fire upon the other ship. The idea is right but ships of the line had well more than 21 guns on a side. The 1st rates would have 100+ guns (50+ a side, assuming chasers are counted on a side) and the smallest ship of the line would be ~60. A frigate (like John Paul Jones' Bonhomme Richard) would have about that number, however (42 total.) But the idea's right anyway -- they wouldn't necessarily be able to fire the lower gun decks, cutting down the number, they'd want to leave some guns free to cover misfires, etc. |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Nah... just getting rid of some old bait.!...
The week wasn't bad... very busy... but at least the American Tourists were nice to meet. I wear my American Flag pin with the yellow ribbon. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | ruff week at work? | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | | "Walt" wrote in message | | | BONUS QUESTION: What's the proper way to dispose of a flag that has | | become old and worn out? | | Send it to Iraq... they are running out of American Flags to burn in | protest. | | CM | | | |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Americans actually have hoisted the Canadian Flag upside down on more than
one occasion. CM "Walt" wrote in message ... | Bobsprit wrote: | | Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. | | Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. | | If Horvath's on your boat you have every reason to fly the flag upside | down. | | -- | //-Walt | // | // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Is the yellow ribbon a border, like an Admiralty Flag?
Capt. Mooron wrote in were nice to meet. I wear my American Flag pin with the yellow ribbon. |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Was there a shut down of the Molson Brewery? On more than one occasion?
Capt. Mooron wrote Americans actually have hoisted the Canadian Flag upside down on more than one occasion. |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
No... separate ribbon below the flag.... ;-)
CM "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... | Is the yellow ribbon a border, like an Admiralty Flag? | | Capt. Mooron wrote in | | were nice to meet. I wear my American Flag pin with the yellow ribbon. | | |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
I believe the first time was a sports event broadcast nationally!
I drink Alexander Keith's India Pale Ale.... "those who like it , like it a lot" Molson breweries are being converted to grow prime bud.... the weed not the brew. Understand that as Canadians.... we have Never hoisted your flag upside down! That's the problem with you self involved Yanks! Too busy navel gazin' to understand you're ****in' other people off at times. Wake the **** up! Look around.... there are other people on this planet! CM "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... | Was there a shut down of the Molson Brewery? On more than one occasion? | | Capt. Mooron wrote | Americans actually have hoisted the Canadian Flag upside down on more than | one occasion. | | |
Why is the American Flag folded 13 times
Well duh, who else would put a leaf, a freaking leaf on their countries
flag? -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Americans actually have hoisted the Canadian Flag upside down on more than one occasion. CM "Walt" wrote in message ... | Bobsprit wrote: | | Flying her upside down is a sign of distress. | | Or just Horvath trying to hoist a flag...and getting it wrong. | | If Horvath's on your boat you have every reason to fly the flag upside | down. | | -- | //-Walt | // | // http://cagle.slate.msn.com/working/040514/matson.gif |
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