jeffies, jeffies, jeffies why is it
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo difficult for you to
understand English, as the language is used. let's take a look at the term you
can't seem to understand, to wit:

a siphon break is
"recommended in applications where the exhaust manifold may be below the
waterline at any angle of heel."

take a look at that, jeffies. read it again. and again. and again, until you
understand that "exhaust manifold" in this case means **the point of the
exhaust manifold open to ambient air pressure**.
In other words, the water injection point.

jeffies, the exhaust manifold has just two openings in it. the opening to the
engine valves and the opening to pipe leading to the water lift muffler. I
know this may be difficult for you to understand, jeffies, but every last piece
of the exhaust manifold is metal, the pieces bolted together not only water
tight but **air** tight. jeffies, water can not go through the metal walls of
the exhaust manifold. It can't. water can only get into the exhaust system
through the water injection point. That's only. Only place.

Therefore, **the part of the exhaust manifold allows water into the system MUST
be above the water line** (ignore special cases requiring special care that
might be used in racing boats and/or military applications).

jeffies, you are arguing something you don't understand. It is the water
induction part of the manifold that has to be above the water line, not the
engine valve part.

If the engine is below the waterline, its impossible to have the exhaust
manifold above the waterline.

really? see below

Yes really, its the standard, and its the law. The ABYC says a siphon break
is
"recommended in applications where the exhaust manifold may be below the
waterline at any angle of heel." And the Code of Federal Regulations,
46CFR182
says that the ABYC standard is the law in this area. The CFR also says the
injection must be as close as possible to the manifold.

So while you can claim that the injection point is the important point to
measure, the law says otherwise. Failure to abide by this would certainly
mean
failing a survey, and making it impossible to insure the boat.




Unless, of course, you have a "magic manifold"
that can be mounted several feet away from the engine.

You can use a special elbow to raise the injection point a few inches

"a few inches"?? at least six inches above the water line.

Actually its just 5 inches higher. When the boat is "at repose." Let it
heel
45 degrees, and its only 3.5 inches higher.

and there is not a
think "special" about it. the pipe is solid bolted to the manifold, an
elbow
turns the pipe **UP**, jeffies, until high enough, then the water injection
elbow is mounted, etc.

It's special in the sense that in the Yanmar parts catalog the "straight
pipe"
is the standard one, while the raised elbow is listed as "optional
equipment."
Admittedly, almost all sailboats would use the raised elbow. (A friend has
a
new YM engine with the straight pipe, but its a catamaran with a single
engine
perched a foot above the water driving a Sonic Leg.)



what word don't you understand?

I understand perfectly. Why is it that you continually claim the standard
and
the law should be ignored? Its very simple: if the manifold is below the
waterline, a siphon break should be installed. Failure to do so means
failing
the survey, no insurance, no marina, no sale.


but that
does not satisfy the requirement that a siphon break is required if the
manifold
is below the waterline.

jeffies, it is NOT the manifold you need to worry about (anymore than you
need
to worry about where the oil pump is) BUT where the water (from outside the
hull) empties into the system, THEREFORE if the water injection point is
above
the water line **there is no siphon potential**. None.

That's not what the standard says. That's not what the law says. Why are
you
claiming the law should be ignored?


jeffies, this is easy stuff. as in E Z.

It sure is, jaxie, and you still don't get it.

You still haven't explained how the engine can be mounted so that the
manifold
(or even the injection point) can stay above the waterline. In any center
cockpit boat, for example. the entire engine will be well below the
waterline,
even before heeling is considered. Raising the injection point 5 inches
still
won't help.

Poor Jocks, he's only had experience with one lungers.
One day, when he gets a job, he'll be able to afford a twin cylinder
engine.

oxxy, what the hell are you blabbering about? are you really trying to say
that "valve overlap" means water goes through the metal walls of the manifold?
Or are you trying to say that "valve overlap" means water comes into the
exhaust manifold *from* the cylinders, but only if the engine has two or more
cylinders?

what the hell ARE you saying??

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, jeffies, jeffies why is it
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo difficult for you to
understand English, as the language is used. let's take a look at the term
you
can't seem to understand, to wit:

a siphon break is
"recommended in applications where the exhaust manifold may be below the
waterline at any angle of heel."

take a look at that, jeffies. read it again. and again. and again, until
you
understand that "exhaust manifold" in this case means **the point of the
exhaust manifold open to ambient air pressure**.
In other words, the water injection point.

I keep reading it and your words are not there. Engineering and fantasy are not
the same thing, jaxie. The ABYC standards are complete with pictures labeling
the "manifold" and other exhaust components. If they meant that a siphon break
was need if the injection point was below the waterline, they would have said
so.



jeffies, the exhaust manifold has just two openings in it. the opening to the
engine valves and the opening to pipe leading to the water lift muffler. I
know this may be difficult for you to understand, jeffies, but every last
piece
of the exhaust manifold is metal, the pieces bolted together not only water
tight but **air** tight. jeffies, water can not go through the metal walls of
the exhaust manifold. It can't. water can only get into the exhaust system
through the water injection point. That's only. Only place.

Therefore, **the part of the exhaust manifold allows water into the system
MUST
be above the water line** (ignore special cases requiring special care that
might be used in racing boats and/or military applications).

If this was so important, why is it never mentioned in the ABYC standards? Why
can't you find a single site that backs you up? Why do the standards give
specific instructions for when the manifold is under the waterline, after they
describe how risers are connected to the manifold?

Obviously, the experts do not agree with you. The wording is unambiguous and
clear.



jeffies, you are arguing something you don't understand. It is the water
induction part of the manifold

The manifold is the manifold. Redefining the terms to suit your argument
doesn't change the law. The ABYC standards even describe the construction of
the pipe that connects the manifold to the injection point: "The section of
the exhaust system extending from the engine manifold to the point of water
injection shall be constructed the same as a dry exhaust system."


that has to be above the water line, not the
engine valve part.

Sorry jax, you seem to be all alone in this.

You still haven't explained how all those boats that have the engine well below
the waterline magically have the manifolds above the waterline, at all angles of
heel. You seem to claim the designers build their boat around the concept that
the engine must be as high as possible. The truth is the opposite: the engine
is mounted as low as possible, mainly to keep weight low, but also to minimize
the shaft angle, and to keep the engine out of the saloon. Maybe this is why
the standards never once mention that the injection point must be above the
waterline, but they do say that a siphon break is needed if the manifold is
below the waterline.

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


Oz1

you are wrong. think it through, oxxy, and if you have to go back and read my
explanation of yesterday done in words an 11 year old girl could understand.
Nevermind that jeffies felt that using words understandable by an 11 year old
girl was putting on intellectual airs. it is all in there, oxxy, all there.

jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level capabable of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

The most common reason for arrested development was either mental illness or
mental incapacity. The first are unwilling to grow up, the second can't
understand the greater world so settle into a blind acceptance of things for
various reasons. One such reasons -- out of many possible -- is that they read
it word for word somewhere. These are people unable to understand concepts, or
even the second or third dictionary definitions for words. They have literal
minds. In the world of business they are best suited for repetitive jobs, or
sometimes maintenance code work in IT shops.

jeffies, jeffies, jeffies why is it
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooo difficult for you
to
understand English, as the language is used. let's take a look at the term
you
can't seem to understand, to wit:

a siphon break is
"recommended in applications where the exhaust manifold may be below the
waterline at any angle of heel."

take a look at that, jeffies. read it again. and again. and again, until
you
understand that "exhaust manifold" in this case means **the point of the
exhaust manifold open to ambient air pressure**.
In other words, the water injection point.

I keep reading it and your words are not there. Engineering and fantasy are
not
the same thing, jaxie. The ABYC standards are complete with pictures
labeling
the "manifold" and other exhaust components. If they meant that a siphon
break
was need if the injection point was below the waterline, they would have said
so.



jeffies, the exhaust manifold has just two openings in it. the opening to
the
engine valves and the opening to pipe leading to the water lift muffler. I
know this may be difficult for you to understand, jeffies, but every last
piece
of the exhaust manifold is metal, the pieces bolted together not only water
tight but **air** tight. jeffies, water can not go through the metal walls
of
the exhaust manifold. It can't. water can only get into the exhaust
system
through the water injection point. That's only. Only place.

Therefore, **the part of the exhaust manifold allows water into the system
MUST
be above the water line** (ignore special cases requiring special care that
might be used in racing boats and/or military applications).

If this was so important, why is it never mentioned in the ABYC standards?
Why
can't you find a single site that backs you up? Why do the standards give
specific instructions for when the manifold is under the waterline, after
they
describe how risers are connected to the manifold?

Obviously, the experts do not agree with you. The wording is unambiguous and
clear.



jeffies, you are arguing something you don't understand. It is the water
induction part of the manifold

The manifold is the manifold. Redefining the terms to suit your argument
doesn't change the law. The ABYC standards even describe the construction of
the pipe that connects the manifold to the injection point: "The section
of
the exhaust system extending from the engine manifold to the point of water
injection shall be constructed the same as a dry exhaust system."


that has to be above the water line, not the
engine valve part.

Sorry jax, you seem to be all alone in this.

You still haven't explained how all those boats that have the engine well
below
the waterline magically have the manifolds above the waterline, at all angles
of
heel. You seem to claim the designers build their boat around the concept
that
the engine must be as high as possible. The truth is the opposite: the
engine
is mounted as low as possible, mainly to keep weight low, but also to
minimize
the shaft angle, and to keep the engine out of the saloon. Maybe this is why
the standards never once mention that the injection point must be above the
waterline, but they do say that a siphon break is needed if the manifold is
below the waterline.

"JAXAshby" admits he was making it up all along:
jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.

jeff, there is no hope for you.

jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeff, there is no hope for you.

Jaxie, now you're reduced to a 5 year old screaming over and over that you're
right! You even had to repeat your nonsense 10 times. What a little baby you
are, jaxie! Just plain pathetic!




jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.

jeffies, I am unable to effectively communicate with someone who doesn't
understand English at least at a fourth grade level. go play in the sandbox
until recess is over.

jeff, there is no hope for you.

Jaxie, now you're reduced to a 5 year old screaming over and over that you're
right! You even had to repeat your nonsense 10 times. What a little baby
you
are, jaxie! Just plain pathetic!




jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.









jeffies, back in the days when I was required to study
morals/ethics/philosophy
as part of going to school, your kind of thinking was referred to as
"arrested", as in thinking that had not developed beyond the level
capabable
of
an average seven old kid. Literally, jeffies, literally.

Poor jaxie, so jealous he has to resort to pathetic babbling ...

Jaxie, if there was any truth at all to your claims you would have found
some
support for it on the internet. Instead, we found that the national
standards,
the Federal law, the primary manufacturers, and all of the experts all
disagree
with you.

Its no wonder that you've been reduced to childish hissy fits.

JAXAshby wrote:
jeffies, I am unable to effectively communicate with someone who doesn't
understand English at least at a fourth grade level.

Is that why your own kids won't talk to you?

... go play in the sandbox
until recess is over.

Hey, you forgot to mention something about riding the short bus to school

DSK