"Peter Wiley" wrote in message

There's nothing anyone on a small boat can do against a 50 cal (or
| even a 30 cal) machine gun.

That just denotes a lack of imagination, cunning and strategy.... there is
a win situation.
|
| As I said my strategy is to be somewhere else.

Good but not always available....


|
| PDW
|
| If the bad guys have heavy automatic weapons, there's little point in
| firing a rifle at them.

Depends entirely on the rifle and the aim........ Long Distance - Reach
Out and Touch Someone!
Heavy Autos are intrinsically weak at long ranges.... no matter how much
lead they can deliver in a minute. I'd pick them off at 500 meters with a
338 Win Mag .... never mind a .50 cal Barnett Semi Auto at 2000 meters. If
you want up close and personal... nothing beats a shotgun.... especially a
50 round BullPup 12 ga. semi-auto. Uzi's are street cleaners only.... 30
yards max. I'd trump that with my 590A Police pump .12 ga........ then
level my 6 shot .445 SuperMag. to pick off the stragglers.

American Gun Control and Canadian Pot Laws....... we would rule the friggin'
planet!!


CM

In article , Capt. Mooron
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message

There's nothing anyone on a small boat can do against a 50 cal (or
| even a 30 cal) machine gun.

That just denotes a lack of imagination, cunning and strategy.... there is
a win situation.
|
| As I said my strategy is to be somewhere else.

Good but not always available....


|
| PDW
|
| If the bad guys have heavy automatic weapons, there's little point in
| firing a rifle at them.

Depends entirely on the rifle and the aim........ Long Distance - Reach
Out and Touch Someone!

Unless they have a splinter shield.

Heavy Autos are intrinsically weak at long ranges.... no matter how much
lead they can deliver in a minute. I'd pick them off at 500 meters with a
338 Win Mag .... never mind a .50 cal Barnett Semi Auto at 2000 meters.

Doubt it. A 30 BMG is remarkably accurate and that design dates back to
(IIRC) 1917. The 50 BMG is not a lot worse tho I've never had the
pleasure of playing with one. You're not on a range now; I've shot over
a spotlight from the back of a utility 4WD for many years and it's damn
hard to hit things when they're moving one way, you're moving another
and you have one shot at a time. You can't spot the fall of shot easily
at sea esp through a scope. Long odds if you didn't get a first shot
hit, the MG guy would walk a burst right arcoss the boat. They have
tracer.

Us Aussies and you Canucks don't have to worry about such stuff, tho.
All we need to do is fly a NZ flag and pirates will know we have
nothing worth stealing. Demeaning, but if you can fake the accent
you're home.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote

Unless they have a splinter shield.

??????????



I've shot over
a spotlight from the back of a utility 4WD for many years and it's damn
hard to hit things when they're moving one way, you're moving another


how many roos did you get?

Scotty

In article , Scott Vernon
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote

Unless they have a splinter shield.

??????????

Steel plate in front of the gun to protect against small arms fire &
shell splinters. If they've got one of these probably Navy playing
pirate.



I've shot over
a spotlight from the back of a utility 4WD for many years and it's damn
hard to hit things when they're moving one way, you're moving another


how many roos did you get?

Depended. Back when we could get tracer ammo for the old SAFN 49's it
was a lotta fun and not all that productive. However real enlightening
about where the round is going. More productive to stop, shoot the
stationary ones using 243 b/a with scope then move on.

Problem with ball ammo is penetration without necessarily flattening
what you'd shot.

PDW

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Heavy Autos are intrinsically weak at long ranges....

???

The Browning .50 cal M2 was originally designed as an anti tank weapon.
I don't think there is any small boat (by which I mean under 50 tons),
even Joe's, which could not be totally disabled or sunk by one in a very
short time (say, two minutes tops).

I'd pick them off at 500 meters with a
338 Win Mag .... never mind a .50 cal Barnett Semi Auto at 2000 meters.


Dream on.

Peter Wiley wrote:
Doubt it. A 30 BMG is remarkably accurate and that design dates back to
(IIRC) 1917.

Yep, right on.

... The 50 BMG is not a lot worse tho I've never had the
pleasure of playing with one.

I have. If assembled & mounted properly the M2 is an inherently very
accurate (approx 1/2 MOA) gun. It's a lot of fun.


.... Long odds if you didn't get a first shot
hit, the MG guy would walk a burst right arcoss the boat. They have
tracer.

Makes it real easy, even if the gun isn't made up or mounted all that
well. We used to shoot at 55 gal drums at about 1,000 yards range. Even
the klutziest cook's assistant could score. An opposing rifleman would
get off exactly one shot, and that only if he was quick.

However I seriously doubt many 3rd world pirates are armed with such
military hardware. AK-47s I could see, M2 50s, nyet.

There are a couple of kits that used to be available to turn most SLRs
into a sort of twin mount Gatling gun. Spade handles, small crankshaft
to pump the triggers, mags upwards for quick changing. That might be
handy but you'd have to pick something you can get tracer rounds for.
And of course, not get caught with it because in the Land of the Free &
Home of the Brave, one is not allowed to own such things.



Us Aussies and you Canucks don't have to worry about such stuff, tho.
All we need to do is fly a NZ flag and pirates will know we have
nothing worth stealing. Demeaning, but if you can fake the accent
you're home.


Hmm, that's worth a try.

DSK