1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?

2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?

3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?

4. Will he outspend Bush?

5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?

What is he going to do?

BC

What is he going to do?


Much better and certainly no worse.

RB

"Bob Crantz" wrote

1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?
One can hope

2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?
"Illegal aliens" are to Bush what Jews were to Hitler: scapegoats to divert
our attention. Much of America depends on alien labor and many (most?)
illegals are only illegal because INS lacks manpower to process their
paperwork.

3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?
We need to eliminate Bush's to get back some fiscal sanity.

4. Will he outspend Bush?
Prolly impossible!

5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?
You mean Martha Stewert and similar dangers to society?

What is he going to do?
More important is what he's NOT likely to do? For example, he'll prolly
lift the Shrub's arbitrary ban on stem cell research, thus allowing
scientists to discover cures for diabete, and for nerve and heart damage
that disable 1000s.

Bob Crantz wrote:

1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?

Doubtful. He'll get us out of Iraq, but not via an immediate
withdrawal.

2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?

I would expect little change from the present policy.

3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?

Short term: no. Long term: yes. By getting the deficit under control,
the middle class will pay less in taxes in the long run under Kerry than
under Bush. Remember that the $500 BILLION annual deficit is a plan for
long term increases in taxes. (or maybe it's no plan at all, which
would be par for the course)

4. Will he outspend Bush?

I don't think so, even if he wanted to. Congress won't rubber-stamp his
proposals like they have for Bush. And he might actually veto a
spending bill as too expensive, something W hasn't had the courage to
do.

5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?

Absolutely. Elliot Spitzer for Attorney General! BTW, if this is a
point of concern for you, then you should under no circumstances vote
for a guy who appointed Harvey Pitt as SEC chair.

What is he going to do?

Govern like an adult.

Oh, and you forgot an important question: Does he know how to sail?

--
//-Walt
//
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By 711 , 79 years after Mohammed's death, Arab armies invaded Spain,
having already conquered North Africa., most of the mid east and Persia .
Islam then spread east, with Muslim empires ruling over north India and it
's Hindu population and replacing Buddhism in Indonesia. In 1253 Muslim
armies conquered Constantinople and spread up the Balkans ; Vienna was
besieged as late as 1650. They have been at war with us since their
creation.

Muslims are now killing Christians in the Philippines, Buddhists in
southern Thailand , Hindus in Kashmere , Jews in Palestine , animist blacks
in the Sudan , Americans in New York and themselves in Algeria.

The reason is to be found in part in the Koran ; make an effort to read it.



Islam derives from a simplified badly understood Judeo-Christianity,
distorted by an aggressive medieval Arab tribalism; the Koran, compared to
the Old and New bible, is thematically and ideationally primitive ;
obsessive and repetitive in simple exhortations to believe . For most
Muslims the religion is a personality cult of Mohammed , further disturbed
by an appeal to humanity's need for existential order which has, again,
resulted in fascism. Driven by Arab patriarchalism we see societies
anti-female , prone to authoritarianism , ruled by dictators,
intellectually backward and , sexually dammed , seething with aggression
turned both inward and towards all it's neighbors. In a word, Muslim
cultures are sick, distortions of a healthy humanity , and to the extent
they are Muslim ,they must be. The word itself ,"islam" translates into
"submission"; if god does not exist , this is obviously insane ; if God does
, we might hope God has a different notion for human presence and ego in
the world. Clearly we are being told much of the illness of Islam as a
world view.
Leaving them alone is not feasible , as it risks atom bombs in Manhattan.
To be blunt; the Koran is profoundly * stupid * ; the work of
semi-literate primitives ; the religion has been picked up by the most
backward people on earth and it acts now to fuel their aggression. The "war"
in Iraq is a last attempt by the west to civilize ( to graft democracy and
law onto their repressive disorder) ; should it fail , it is likely we will
see an emboldened and lunatic Islam armed with WMD's ; a rational response
by the west would be the elimination of Islam's capacity to destroy; how
would you do this ? God bless George Bush for trying to deal with this in
a peaceful and limited fashion. Hope he succeeds.



"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?

2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?

3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?

4. Will he outspend Bush?

5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?

What is he going to do?

BC

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

That's just s-s-s-o-o-o-o-o-o R-I-P-E!!!!

CM


"J Bard" wrote in message
hlink.net...
| By 711 , 79 years after Mohammed's death, Arab armies invaded Spain,
| having already conquered North Africa., most of the mid east and Persia
..
| Islam then spread east, with Muslim empires ruling over north India and
it
| 's Hindu population and replacing Buddhism in Indonesia. In 1253 Muslim
| armies conquered Constantinople and spread up the Balkans ; Vienna was
| besieged as late as 1650. They have been at war with us since their
| creation.
|
| Muslims are now killing Christians in the Philippines, Buddhists in
| southern Thailand , Hindus in Kashmere , Jews in Palestine , animist
blacks
| in the Sudan , Americans in New York and themselves in Algeria.
|
| The reason is to be found in part in the Koran ; make an effort to read
it.
|
|
|
| Islam derives from a simplified badly understood Judeo-Christianity,
| distorted by an aggressive medieval Arab tribalism; the Koran, compared
to
| the Old and New bible, is thematically and ideationally primitive ;
| obsessive and repetitive in simple exhortations to believe . For most
| Muslims the religion is a personality cult of Mohammed , further disturbed
| by an appeal to humanity's need for existential order which has, again,
| resulted in fascism. Driven by Arab patriarchalism we see societies
| anti-female , prone to authoritarianism , ruled by dictators,
| intellectually backward and , sexually dammed , seething with aggression
| turned both inward and towards all it's neighbors. In a word, Muslim
| cultures are sick, distortions of a healthy humanity , and to the extent
| they are Muslim ,they must be. The word itself ,"islam" translates into
| "submission"; if god does not exist , this is obviously insane ; if God
does
| , we might hope God has a different notion for human presence and ego in
| the world. Clearly we are being told much of the illness of Islam as a
| world view.
| Leaving them alone is not feasible , as it risks atom bombs in
Manhattan.
| To be blunt; the Koran is profoundly * stupid * ; the work of
| semi-literate primitives ; the religion has been picked up by the most
| backward people on earth and it acts now to fuel their aggression. The
"war"
| in Iraq is a last attempt by the west to civilize ( to graft democracy and
| law onto their repressive disorder) ; should it fail , it is likely we
will
| see an emboldened and lunatic Islam armed with WMD's ; a rational response
| by the west would be the elimination of Islam's capacity to destroy; how
| would you do this ? God bless George Bush for trying to deal with this
in
| a peaceful and limited fashion. Hope he succeeds.
|
|
|
| "Bob Crantz" wrote in message
| nk.net...
| 1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?
|
| 2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?
|
| 3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?
|
| 4. Will he outspend Bush?
|
| 5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?
|
| What is he going to do?
|
| BC
|
|
|
|

You are absolutely right. I feel no pity for the Islamics, for they are
non-Christian and animals. They are no different than Nazis and deserve what
they are now receiving. God Bless you for your wisdom and courage.

BC



"J Bard" wrote in message
hlink.net...
By 711 , 79 years after Mohammed's death, Arab armies invaded Spain,
having already conquered North Africa., most of the mid east and Persia
..
Islam then spread east, with Muslim empires ruling over north India and
it
's Hindu population and replacing Buddhism in Indonesia. In 1253 Muslim
armies conquered Constantinople and spread up the Balkans ; Vienna was
besieged as late as 1650. They have been at war with us since their
creation.

Muslims are now killing Christians in the Philippines, Buddhists in
southern Thailand , Hindus in Kashmere , Jews in Palestine , animist
blacks
in the Sudan , Americans in New York and themselves in Algeria.

The reason is to be found in part in the Koran ; make an effort to read
it.



Islam derives from a simplified badly understood Judeo-Christianity,
distorted by an aggressive medieval Arab tribalism; the Koran, compared
to
the Old and New bible, is thematically and ideationally primitive ;
obsessive and repetitive in simple exhortations to believe . For most
Muslims the religion is a personality cult of Mohammed , further disturbed
by an appeal to humanity's need for existential order which has, again,
resulted in fascism. Driven by Arab patriarchalism we see societies
anti-female , prone to authoritarianism , ruled by dictators,
intellectually backward and , sexually dammed , seething with aggression
turned both inward and towards all it's neighbors. In a word, Muslim
cultures are sick, distortions of a healthy humanity , and to the extent
they are Muslim ,they must be. The word itself ,"islam" translates into
"submission"; if god does not exist , this is obviously insane ; if God
does
, we might hope God has a different notion for human presence and ego in
the world. Clearly we are being told much of the illness of Islam as a
world view.
Leaving them alone is not feasible , as it risks atom bombs in
Manhattan.
To be blunt; the Koran is profoundly * stupid * ; the work of
semi-literate primitives ; the religion has been picked up by the most
backward people on earth and it acts now to fuel their aggression. The
"war"
in Iraq is a last attempt by the west to civilize ( to graft democracy and
law onto their repressive disorder) ; should it fail , it is likely we
will
see an emboldened and lunatic Islam armed with WMD's ; a rational response
by the west would be the elimination of Islam's capacity to destroy; how
would you do this ? God bless George Bush for trying to deal with this
in
a peaceful and limited fashion. Hope he succeeds.



"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?

2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?

3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?

4. Will he outspend Bush?

5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?

What is he going to do?

BC

Seems to me like you think that breeding generations of warriors with a
cause to destroy your lifestyle is somehow constructive practice???

Crantz... have you ever cornered a rat??.... how about a hundred rats at
the end of a conveyor belt on a grain elevator ?? Bet Ya you'll run for
your life when they figure out they have nowhere to run and turn on you.
They will turn on you you know!

Let's face some facts..... with all the star wars technology you have at
your disposal.... you still can't control your troops or direct your fire
to effectively decimate your opponents! What should that tell you my fat
complacent friend with the superiority complex??

To date the USA has failed miserably to deliver on any of it's
objectives..... stupidity or naivety... the end result is the same....
mission failure! Wake Up... if you want the bragging rights.... do the
friggin' job or shut the **** up! This chest pounding bull**** falls pretty
hollow when in the light of day the you've once again failed to cash the
check your mouth has written.

Don't blame the troops pal.... blame the friggin' generals. Idiots all.....

The world is starting to sympathize with your foes..... and all you are
doing is confirming their beliefs.

Way to go Ex Lax!

CM



"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
| You are absolutely right. I feel no pity for the Islamics, for they are
| non-Christian and animals. They are no different than Nazis and deserve
what
| they are now receiving. God Bless you for your wisdom and courage.
|
| BC
|
|
|
| "J Bard" wrote in message
| hlink.net...
| By 711 , 79 years after Mohammed's death, Arab armies invaded Spain,
| having already conquered North Africa., most of the mid east and
Persia
| .
| Islam then spread east, with Muslim empires ruling over north India
and
| it
| 's Hindu population and replacing Buddhism in Indonesia. In 1253
Muslim
| armies conquered Constantinople and spread up the Balkans ; Vienna was
| besieged as late as 1650. They have been at war with us since their
| creation.
|
| Muslims are now killing Christians in the Philippines, Buddhists in
| southern Thailand , Hindus in Kashmere , Jews in Palestine , animist
| blacks
| in the Sudan , Americans in New York and themselves in Algeria.
|
| The reason is to be found in part in the Koran ; make an effort to read
| it.
|
|
|
| Islam derives from a simplified badly understood Judeo-Christianity,
| distorted by an aggressive medieval Arab tribalism; the Koran, compared
| to
| the Old and New bible, is thematically and ideationally primitive ;
| obsessive and repetitive in simple exhortations to believe . For most
| Muslims the religion is a personality cult of Mohammed , further
disturbed
| by an appeal to humanity's need for existential order which has, again,
| resulted in fascism. Driven by Arab patriarchalism we see societies
| anti-female , prone to authoritarianism , ruled by dictators,
| intellectually backward and , sexually dammed , seething with aggression
| turned both inward and towards all it's neighbors. In a word, Muslim
| cultures are sick, distortions of a healthy humanity , and to the
extent
| they are Muslim ,they must be. The word itself ,"islam" translates
into
| "submission"; if god does not exist , this is obviously insane ; if God
| does
| , we might hope God has a different notion for human presence and ego
in
| the world. Clearly we are being told much of the illness of Islam as a
| world view.
| Leaving them alone is not feasible , as it risks atom bombs in
| Manhattan.
| To be blunt; the Koran is profoundly * stupid * ; the work of
| semi-literate primitives ; the religion has been picked up by the most
| backward people on earth and it acts now to fuel their aggression. The
| "war"
| in Iraq is a last attempt by the west to civilize ( to graft democracy
and
| law onto their repressive disorder) ; should it fail , it is likely we
| will
| see an emboldened and lunatic Islam armed with WMD's ; a rational
response
| by the west would be the elimination of Islam's capacity to destroy;
how
| would you do this ? God bless George Bush for trying to deal with this
| in
| a peaceful and limited fashion. Hope he succeeds.
|
|
|
| "Bob Crantz" wrote in message
| nk.net...
| 1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?
|
| 2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?
|
| 3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?
|
| 4. Will he outspend Bush?
|
| 5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?
|
| What is he going to do?
|
| BC
|
|
|
|
|
|

From what country do these terrorists regularly enter the US?

When we're done in the middle east, you're next.

Seems to me like you think that breeding generations of warriors with a
cause to destroy your lifestyle is somehow constructive practice???

Warrior = strapping bombs to children and pregnant ladies. Blowing up school
busses. Attacking civilians. Is that YOUR warrior ethic?


Crantz... have you ever cornered a rat??.... how about a hundred rats at
the end of a conveyor belt on a grain elevator ?? Bet Ya you'll run for
your life when they figure out they have nowhere to run and turn on you.
They will turn on you you know!

I thought they were noble warriors, now you are calling them rats. At least
be consistent when you rant. Have another blunt.


Let's face some facts..... with all the star wars technology you have at
your disposal.... you still can't control your troops or direct your fire
to effectively decimate your opponents!

Not true at all. That's why these rats can't mount a concerted attack,
they'll be decimated.


What should that tell you my fat
complacent friend with the superiority complex??

All wrong, I'm not fat at all, not complacent and certainly not your friend.
You're a stark raving mad idiot. You make no sense. Go back into the frozen
tundra where you belong. Go and converse with some kit-fox noodle brain.

To date the USA has failed miserably to deliver on any of it's
objectives..... stupidity or naivety... the end result is the same....
mission failure!

Did the not capture Bagdad? Hussien? Route the Taliban in Afghanistan?
Attack terror attacks on US soil lately? Your attacks have failed miserably!
Mission failure for you!

Wake Up... if you want the bragging rights.... do the
friggin' job or shut the **** up! This chest pounding bull**** falls
pretty
hollow when in the light of day the you've once again failed to cash the
check your mouth has written.

I'm crying all the way to the bank. If you want to lambast someone, at least
have something to back yourself up with. You're an idiot. One question, what
military outfit were you in?


Don't blame the troops pal.... blame the friggin' generals. Idiots
all.....

A mindless cliche parroted for generations. US generals carry out the
political will of the US by use of force. You're wacko enough to blame the
paint manufacturers for the humvee.


The world is starting to sympathize with your foes..... and all you are
doing is confirming their beliefs.

The US leads, the rest follow. Apparently to you a vote alone is enough to
determine right and wrong as you seem to have no moral compass.

Are you some type of character actor, hermit or village idiot? Really.

BC


Way to go Ex Lax!

CM



"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
| You are absolutely right. I feel no pity for the Islamics, for they are
| non-Christian and animals. They are no different than Nazis and deserve
what
| they are now receiving. God Bless you for your wisdom and courage.
|
| BC
|
|
|
| "J Bard" wrote in message
| hlink.net...
| By 711 , 79 years after Mohammed's death, Arab armies invaded
Spain,
| having already conquered North Africa., most of the mid east and
Persia
| .
| Islam then spread east, with Muslim empires ruling over north India
and
| it
| 's Hindu population and replacing Buddhism in Indonesia. In 1253
Muslim
| armies conquered Constantinople and spread up the Balkans ; Vienna was
| besieged as late as 1650. They have been at war with us since their
| creation.
|
| Muslims are now killing Christians in the Philippines, Buddhists in
| southern Thailand , Hindus in Kashmere , Jews in Palestine , animist
| blacks
| in the Sudan , Americans in New York and themselves in Algeria.
|
| The reason is to be found in part in the Koran ; make an effort to
read
| it.
|
|
|
| Islam derives from a simplified badly understood Judeo-Christianity,
| distorted by an aggressive medieval Arab tribalism; the Koran,
compared
| to
| the Old and New bible, is thematically and ideationally primitive ;
| obsessive and repetitive in simple exhortations to believe . For most
| Muslims the religion is a personality cult of Mohammed , further
disturbed
| by an appeal to humanity's need for existential order which has,
again,
| resulted in fascism. Driven by Arab patriarchalism we see societies
| anti-female , prone to authoritarianism , ruled by dictators,
| intellectually backward and , sexually dammed , seething with
aggression
| turned both inward and towards all it's neighbors. In a word, Muslim
| cultures are sick, distortions of a healthy humanity , and to the
extent
| they are Muslim ,they must be. The word itself ,"islam" translates
into
| "submission"; if god does not exist , this is obviously insane ; if
God
| does
| , we might hope God has a different notion for human presence and ego
in
| the world. Clearly we are being told much of the illness of Islam as
a
| world view.
| Leaving them alone is not feasible , as it risks atom bombs in
| Manhattan.
| To be blunt; the Koran is profoundly * stupid * ; the work of
| semi-literate primitives ; the religion has been picked up by the
most
| backward people on earth and it acts now to fuel their aggression. The
| "war"
| in Iraq is a last attempt by the west to civilize ( to graft democracy
and
| law onto their repressive disorder) ; should it fail , it is likely we
| will
| see an emboldened and lunatic Islam armed with WMD's ; a rational
response
| by the west would be the elimination of Islam's capacity to destroy;
how
| would you do this ? God bless George Bush for trying to deal with
this
| in
| a peaceful and limited fashion. Hope he succeeds.
|
|
|
| "Bob Crantz" wrote in message
| nk.net...
| 1. Will he immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq?
|
| 2. Will he tighten the borders to stop illegal aliens?
|
| 3. Will he give the middle class a tax break?
|
| 4. Will he outspend Bush?
|
| 5. Will he see to it that corrupt big business men are prosecuted?
|
| What is he going to do?
|
| BC
|
|
|
|
|
|

When we're done in the middle east, you're next.

We can't afford it. Really.


RB