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Capt. Mooron May 11th 04 03:45 AM

MILDEW...
 
I found some isolated areas [port and starboard settee / bunk area behind
the flip up back rests] that had some mildew staining. That damned black
crap in the corners on the fabric. I was disgusted!

Well I panicked and rented a 3500 psi pressure washer... stripped out the
boat ... opened the windows and went nuts! I cleaned the interior top to
bottom. The upholstery is like new now, the hand made Quebec Lace curtains
are soaking.... and the friggin' Mildew is so outta there it's like it was
never present.

I also managed to rent out the washer to 3 other folks working on their
boats and made the rental fee + $50.

The pressure wash of the interior will now be an annual task after seeing
the results. I normally machine wash all the cushions but I was stuck with
an upholstery cleaner and wet/dry vacuum for the stuff I couldn't remove
from the vessel. Not anymore..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

CM



Navigator May 11th 04 05:20 AM

MILDEW...
 
You need to kill the spores. A wipe down with diluted bleach will do
that and sanitise the whole boat.

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:

I found some isolated areas [port and starboard settee / bunk area behind
the flip up back rests] that had some mildew staining. That damned black
crap in the corners on the fabric. I was disgusted!

Well I panicked and rented a 3500 psi pressure washer... stripped out the
boat ... opened the windows and went nuts! I cleaned the interior top to
bottom. The upholstery is like new now, the hand made Quebec Lace curtains
are soaking.... and the friggin' Mildew is so outta there it's like it was
never present.

I also managed to rent out the washer to 3 other folks working on their
boats and made the rental fee + $50.

The pressure wash of the interior will now be an annual task after seeing
the results. I normally machine wash all the cushions but I was stuck with
an upholstery cleaner and wet/dry vacuum for the stuff I couldn't remove
from the vessel. Not anymore..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

CM




Lady Pilot May 11th 04 05:37 AM

MILDEW...
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:
I found some isolated areas [port and starboard settee / bunk area behind
the flip up back rests] that had some mildew staining. That damned black
crap in the corners on the fabric. I was disgusted!


I thought you had your "Indians" do it for you, chief...

LP ;-D

Weren't you the supervisor? eg



Well I panicked and rented a 3500 psi pressure washer... stripped out the
boat ... opened the windows and went nuts! I cleaned the interior top to
bottom. The upholstery is like new now, the hand made Quebec Lace curtains
are soaking.... and the friggin' Mildew is so outta there it's like it

was
never present.

I also managed to rent out the washer to 3 other folks working on their
boats and made the rental fee + $50.

The pressure wash of the interior will now be an annual task after seeing
the results. I normally machine wash all the cushions but I was stuck with
an upholstery cleaner and wet/dry vacuum for the stuff I couldn't remove
from the vessel. Not anymore..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

CM





Lady Pilot May 11th 04 05:38 AM

MILDEW...
 

"Navigator" wrote:
You need to kill the spores. A wipe down with diluted bleach will do
that and sanitise the whole boat.


sounds like "experience" talking...

LP



Capt. Mooron May 11th 04 12:03 PM

MILDEW...
 

"Navigator" wrote in message
...
| You need to kill the spores. A wipe down with diluted bleach will do
| that and sanitise the whole boat.

Oh I killed the spores all right...... 3500 PSI with a biocide/fungicide
concentrate industrial cleaner. It was a "Scorched Earth Policy"!!!! Ethnic
spore cleansing! ;-D

I tried the bleach routine with all the effect of Bush in Iraq..... it
seemed like "insurgent" spores arrived from all over and I ended up with a
bigger mess on my hands than when we first cleaned the boat.

I left all the ports and hatches open and set a big fan in the companionway.
Light and air are the best methods to ensure the plague does not return.
I've seen it hit other boats up here and cause big problems.

CM




Capt. Mooron May 11th 04 12:11 PM

MILDEW...
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

| I thought you had your "Indians" do it for you, chief...

Hi Ya Darlin'...... yes the crew did scrub the boat down and did get those
areas with a diluted [50/50] bleach solution. Obviously that had all the
effect of a "Liberation" "Crusade" on a Muslim country by Christian forces.

| LP ;-D
|
| Weren't you the supervisor? eg

I'm always the "Supervisor"...... it's lonely at the top! :-D

BTW - I did write you... didn't you get my email?

CM



DSK May 11th 04 01:29 PM

MILDEW...
 
Capt. Mooron wrote:
Oh I killed the spores all right...... 3500 PSI with a biocide/fungicide
concentrate industrial cleaner. It was a "Scorched Earth Policy"!!!! Ethnic
spore cleansing! ;-D


??? I'd guess that a 3500 psi did not work wonders on your joinery though.

One thing that's right is that you need a spray, or better an aerosol.
Simply wiping with bleach solution won't get into the crevices where the
spores are prevalent. But dilute bleach is very effective.


I tried the bleach routine with all the effect of Bush in Iraq..... it
seemed like "insurgent" spores arrived from all over and I ended up with a
bigger mess on my hands than when we first cleaned the boat.

I left all the ports and hatches open and set a big fan in the companionway.
Light and air are the best methods to ensure the plague does not return.
I've seen it hit other boats up here and cause big problems.


All that does is keep the spores from growing in areas that are directly
exposed & ventilated.... down in the little voids & spaces, they are
still growing and will burst out when you close up the boat.

Fresh Whatever- Doug King


Joe May 11th 04 07:06 PM

MILDEW...
 
"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
I found some isolated areas [port and starboard settee / bunk area behind
the flip up back rests] that had some mildew staining. That damned black
crap in the corners on the fabric. I was disgusted!


And you should be. But have you ever heard of Tilex mildew remover,
perhaps a bucket of watered down bleach. A 3,500 psi pressure washer
is a bit extreme dont you think?


Well I panicked and rented a 3500 psi pressure washer... stripped out the
boat ... opened the windows and went nuts!


Sounds like Canaduh SOP.

I cleaned the interior top to
bottom. The upholstery is like new now, the hand made Quebec Lace curtains
are soaking.... and the friggin' Mildew is so outta there it's like it was
never present.


Are you soaking your matching hand crochet dolies?


I also managed to rent out the washer to 3 other folks working on their
boats and made the rental fee + $50.

Swerd thinking!

The pressure wash of the interior will now be an annual task after seeing
the results. I normally machine wash all the cushions but I was stuck with
an upholstery cleaner and wet/dry vacuum for the stuff I couldn't remove
from the vessel. Not anymore..... Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!


Sheeeze................ Go for it mooron. I will keep the inside of
my boat dry, that way mildew will not grow.

Joe


CM


katysails May 12th 04 02:21 AM

MILDEW...
 
Hope it all dries out before you have to put the boat up next fall....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails May 12th 04 02:22 AM

MILDEW...
 

A wipe down with diluted bleach will do
that and sanitise the whole boat.

Vinegar works just as well and is far more environmentally correct....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron May 12th 04 03:28 AM

MILDEW...
 
Yup Kitty... it's almost dry now. The fabric was just slightly damp as of
1400 hrs today. Nice breeze and warm weather helps a lot.

Man does the interior ever look nice now.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
| Hope it all dries out before you have to put the boat up next fall....
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|



Capt. Mooron May 12th 04 03:33 AM

MILDEW...
 

"Joe" wrote in message
| And you should be. But have you ever heard of Tilex mildew remover,
| perhaps a bucket of watered down bleach. A 3,500 psi pressure washer
| is a bit extreme dont you think?

Tried the mildew removers last year...... not much success really... the
area cleaned still looked greyish. Nothing is extreme when it works.

| Are you soaking your matching hand crochet dolies?

You bet.... they turned out really nice.

| Sheeeze................ Go for it mooron. I will keep the inside of
| my boat dry, that way mildew will not grow.

I firmly believe the interior of a vessel should be stripped and cleaned at
least every 2 years. It does wonders for the boat and owner.

CM



Navigator May 12th 04 05:27 AM

MILDEW...
 
I disagree.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

A wipe down with diluted bleach will do
that and sanitise the whole boat.

Vinegar works just as well and is far more environmentally correct....



katysails May 12th 04 11:55 AM

MILDEW...
 
MC stated:
I disagree

That's your prerogative...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Bobsprit May 12th 04 11:56 AM

MILDEW...
 
Vinegar works just as well and is far more environmentally correct....

Wow! A bush supporter who cares about the environment! What will they think of
next!?

RB

SAIL LOCO May 12th 04 02:59 PM

MILDEW...
 
Wow! A bush supporter who cares about the environment!.

What did Bush do yesterday?
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Bobsprit May 12th 04 03:11 PM

MILDEW...
 

Wow! A bush supporter who cares about the environment!.

What did Bush do yesterday?

Who cares? Nothing can undo the damage he's done. His last minute phoney
efforts are of no use.

RB

DSK May 12th 04 03:16 PM

MILDEW...
 
SAIL LOCO wrote:

What did Bush do yesterday?


Did he fire Christine Todd Whitman for refusing to rubber-stamp Cheney's
rape & pillage attitudes? No wait, he already did that. Repudtiate the
Tokyo Accords and declare that the U.S. can pollute what it wants, as
much as it wants? Oh wait, did that too. Did he pass a tax deduction for
gas guzzlers so that not only will we have more air pollution &
associated health problems, but will also be yet even more under the
thumb of certain Middle East interests? No, he did that some time ago...
wait there's more... but the list is too long already.

I'm stumped, Loco, what *did* Bush do yesterday?

DSK


Bobsprit May 12th 04 04:17 PM

MILDEW...
 
I'm stumped, Loco, what *did* Bush do yesterday?

Maybe he continued to lobby for the new Alaskan oil fields which will destroy
the wildlife there? My favorite was his recent trip to the Everglades where no
real measures were announced to protect them. He went and made a speech. But
that's what they wanted reported.
In some respects, Bush attack on the envorinment will be his biggest legacy,
long after the Iraq debacle fades.

RB

Bobsprit May 12th 04 04:53 PM

MILDEW...
 
Wait til LOCO realizes that Bush and company are doing everything they
can to kill Amtrack and rail travel.

BB
Trains are History, Sport!


LOL! Poor Loco!

RB

Navigator May 12th 04 10:24 PM

MILDEW...
 
Yes, and I base my opinion on the oxidizing power of bleach.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

MC stated:
I disagree

That's your prerogative...



katysails May 12th 04 10:40 PM

MILDEW...
 

MC stated: Yes, and I base my opinion on the oxidizing power of bleach.

And selfishly harm the environment just to get rid of some mildew...less
chlorine emitted into the atmosphere, the better....vinegar works fine,
especially if you keep on top of things and don't let mildew creep in in the
firstplace....


--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Navigator May 12th 04 11:02 PM

MILDEW...
 
Well tell that to the owners of swimming pools -they use chorates too.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

MC stated: Yes, and I base my opinion on the oxidizing power of bleach.

And selfishly harm the environment just to get rid of some mildew...less
chlorine emitted into the atmosphere, the better....vinegar works fine,
especially if you keep on top of things and don't let mildew creep in in the
firstplace....




Capt. Mooron May 13th 04 01:25 AM

MILDEW...
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...
|
| MC stated: Yes, and I base my opinion on the oxidizing power of bleach.
|
| And selfishly harm the environment just to get rid of some mildew...less
| chlorine emitted into the atmosphere, the better....vinegar works fine,
| especially if you keep on top of things and don't let mildew creep in in
the
| firstplace....

WHOA!!!!....Now you just hold on there Kitten!! I never had a problem ..
nor any mildew... while sailing fresh water!!!

CM



katysails May 13th 04 11:39 AM

MILDEW...
 
Mooron exclaimed:
WHOA!!!!....Now you just hold on there Kitten!! I never had a problem ..
nor any mildew... while sailing fresh water!!!

Has nothing to do with fresh water or salt....has to do with humidity
control...Did you put out mildew pots? or did you put some charcoal in a
bowl or two? Have you used an anti-mildew product on your cushions and head
liner? Do you make sure everything is dry before it is stored away?
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Walt May 13th 04 02:30 PM

MILDEW...
 
katysails wrote:

Mooron exclaimed:
WHOA!!!!....Now you just hold on there Kitten!! I never had a problem ..
nor any mildew... while sailing fresh water!!!

Has nothing to do with fresh water or salt....has to do with humidity
control...Did you put out mildew pots?


Mildew pots?!? Sounds disgusting.

Do you place them next to the bucket of drool, or near the tub of
maggots?


//-Walt
//
// Sigs suck. Oh, the irony.

Capt. Mooron May 13th 04 03:40 PM

MILDEW...
 

"katysails" wrote in message
|
| Has nothing to do with fresh water or salt....has to do with humidity
| control...

True

Did you put out mildew pots? or did you put some charcoal in a
| bowl or two?

Nope

Have you used an anti-mildew product on your cushions and head
| liner?

Nope

Do you make sure everything is dry before it is stored away?

Yup

CM



Lady Pilot May 13th 04 08:57 PM

MILDEW...
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

I'm always the "Supervisor"...... it's lonely at the top! :-D


What? No Lilith on your crew then? hehee

LP



Lady Pilot May 13th 04 08:57 PM

MILDEW...
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

I firmly believe the interior of a vessel should be stripped and cleaned

at
least every 2 years. It does wonders for the boat and owner.


I won't believe it until I see it...

LP ;-)



katysails May 13th 04 11:48 PM

MILDEW...
 
Wally gagged:

-- Mildew pots?!?

Silly boy...you get them at the grocery store...they are plastic tubs with
absorbent stuff in the bottom..over the winter they collect water and reduce
humidity in closed areas...
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails May 13th 04 11:50 PM

MILDEW...
 
Moorn replied: | Has nothing to do with fresh water or salt....has to do
with humidity
| control...

True

Did you put out mildew pots? or did you put some charcoal in a
| bowl or two?

Nope

Have you used an anti-mildew product on your cushions and head
| liner?

Nope

Do you make sure everything is dry before it is stored away?

Yup

Well, one right answer didn't keep the mildew away, now did it?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Donal May 14th 04 12:07 AM

MILDEW...
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Wally gagged:

-- Mildew pots?!?

Silly boy...you get them at the grocery store...they are plastic tubs with
absorbent stuff in the bottom..over the winter they collect water and

reduce
humidity in closed areas...


I really do not believe that such things are capable of absorbing enough
moisture to make a real difference. I leave a couple of ports slightly
ajar, and that really makes a big difference.




Regards


Donal
--




Walt May 14th 04 12:18 AM

MILDEW...
 
katysails wrote:

Wally gagged:

-- Mildew pots?!?

Silly boy...you get them at the grocery store...they are plastic tubs with
absorbent stuff in the bottom..over the winter they collect water and reduce
humidity in closed areas...


Thanks for the clarification.

But you're confusing we with Wally. I'm not Wally.
He's from the Uk, and I'm a fellow troll.

--
//-Walt
//
// Sigs suck. Oh, the irony.

DSK May 14th 04 12:29 AM

MILDEW...
 
"Donal" scribbled thusly:
I really do not believe that such things are capable of absorbing enough
moisture to make a real difference.


I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, but the dehumidifier
pots we have pull several gallons out of the air in the boat over the
course of a week (but then, it is really humid here).

... I leave a couple of ports slightly
ajar, and that really makes a big difference.


All that does is equalize the humidity inside & outside the boat.


OzOne wrote:
They absorb a huge amount, however probably not all that effective
onboard.

Trick is good ventilation and pulling cushions etc away from their
bases, backs.
Stand them on edge with space for airflow between.


Yep, makes a big difference when you put things away properly.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Mooron May 14th 04 12:54 AM

MILDEW...
 

"katysails" wrote in message
| Well, one right answer didn't keep the mildew away, now did it?

Nope... but I'm not putting a fan and dehumidifier onboard for the winter.

I left nothing on the boat like blankets and pillows etc. It is stripped
clean each year. I live in Nova Scotia... it's wet here.

CM



Capt. Mooron May 14th 04 12:56 AM

MILDEW...
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:6rQoc.8819$Md.8034@lakeread05...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
| I firmly believe the interior of a vessel should be stripped and cleaned
| at
| least every 2 years. It does wonders for the boat and owner.
|
| I won't believe it until I see it...

Come on down... or up..... I'll show you how to strip clean..... a vessel.
;-)

CM



Wally May 14th 04 01:40 AM

MILDEW...
 
katysails wrote:
Wally gagged:
-- Mildew pots?!?


That wasn't Wally, that was Walt.


--
Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



DSK May 14th 04 01:55 AM

MILDEW...
 
DSK said:
All that does is equalize the humidity inside & outside the boat.



Dave wrote:
If I'm not mistaken it's not just the humidity, but a combination of heat
and humidity that creates a real problem.


Well, you're mistaken ;)

Seriously, in one way you're right *if* the ambient air circulating is
cooler than the mildew likes. If you are in a warm humid place, like the
South, then the ambient air will support mildew blooms very nicely. If
it were only a matter of heat, well, heat kills mildew & spores... it
just has to get hot enough.

... Providing some circulation should
reduce the time the boat is like a steam bath because the sun is beating
down and warming it while cooler air can't get in.


If that cooler air is bringing in more moisture, how is that going to
help? The problem is not the simple fact that it gets hot (but not hot
enough to kill mildew & spores, just hot enough to germinate them), but
rahter that you have a thermal cycle... the boat cools off at night but
humid air is trapped inside, where it condenses on various surfaces.
Then more air of ambient humidity is drawn in, it gets heated up by the
sun, then cooled and condenses again... the boat is basically a thermal
condenser cylcing around the temp & humidity range that mildew thrives
in. The problem is best attacked from both angles.

BTW my congratulations on a boating related post. You did great for a
first-timer ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King








katysails May 14th 04 03:45 AM

MILDEW...
 
Donal commented: I really do not believe that such things are capable of
absorbing enough
moisture to make a real difference

They do make a difference. We use 4 of them...one in each cabin plus one in
the head...and I dump out the "collection" about 3 times a winter...and we
don't have mildew on the boat....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails May 14th 04 03:49 AM

MILDEW...
 
Dave asked:
Ya think that's likely from the boat sitting in the sun?

Yes. Take one average 30+ ft. piece of plastic and cover it over with a
tarp. Have a few months of rain, snow, sleet etc accumulate...along comes
April adn three out-of-season heat days...crawl under that tarp and enter
that cabin...you could grow mushrooms in there if you had dirt enough!
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




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