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Patriotism.
"Vito" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote McCain is a true hero no doubt. I'm planning on penciling him in on election day. Hogwash! My boss and a bunch more guys flew more Intruder missions over 'nam than McCain WITHOUT loosing their $million aircraft and without spending time in prison. McCain is not a hero IMO because he was a pilot. Any smuck with eye hand cordination and half a brain can become a pilot. He is not a hero IMO because he got shot down. Thats happened to many pilots including the very best fighter pilots, ask Chuck Yeager, pappy Boyington, Richard Bong, The Red Barron . And your boss is no better a pilot because he did not get shot down. Maybe your boss was a coward and stayed away from any action were he might meet resistance. Maybe he did not push is plane to the limits, maybe he was more concerned about himself then acomplishing his duties. They are the heros. Why? Because he kept his plane nice and shiny? The American people trusted McCain with an expensive airplane - which he promptly lost. Americans understand that weapons and aircraft, ships, rifles, uniforms, boats, ect when used in battle will get damaged and lost. To imply a man is a hero for keeping his rifle clean and like new is something the french do. Now we should trust him with the country?? I damn sure would. Do you know anything about him at all? He's a hero because he stands up for his men and country. Here is what our senate said and did Vito, ank your boss if he did the same you DORK. SENATE RESOLUTION 196--RECOGNIZING THE COURAGE AND SACRIFICE OF SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN AND MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES HELD AS PRISONERS OF WAR DURING THE VIETNAM CONFLICT (Senate - March 17, 1998) [Page: S2137] Mr. LOTT (for himself, Mr. Daschle, Mr. Warner, Mr. Kempthorne, Mr. Hatch, Mr. Coats, Mr. Hagel, Mr. Abraham, Mr. Akaka, Mr. Allard, Mr. Ashcroft, Mr. Baucus, Mr. Bennett, Mr. Biden, Mr. Bingaman, Mr. Bond, Mrs. Boxer, Mr. Breaux, Mr. Brownback, Mr. Bryan, Mr. Bumpers, Mr. Burns, Mr. Byrd, Mr. Campbell, Mr. Chafee, Mr. Cleland, Mr. Cochran, Ms. Collins, Mr. Conrad, Mr. Coverdell, Mr. Craig, Mr. D'Amato, Mr. DeWine, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Domenici, Mr. Dorgan, Mr. Durbin, Mr. Enzi, Mr. Faircloth, Mr. Feingold, Mrs. Feinstein, Mr. Ford, Mr. Frist, Mr. Glenn, Mr. Gorton, Mr. Graham, Mr. Gramm, Mr. Grams, Mr. Grassley, Mr. Gregg, Mr. Harkin, Mr. Helms, Mr. Hollings, Mr. Hutchinson, Mrs. Hutchison, Mr. Inhofe, Mr. Inouye, Mr. Jeffords, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Kerrey, Mr. Kerry, Mr. Kohl, Mr. Kyl, Ms. Landrieu, Mr. Lautenberg, Mr. Leahy, Mr. Levin, Mr. Lieberman, Mr. Lugar, Mr. Mack, Mr. McCain, Mr. McConnell, Ms. Mikulski, Ms. Moseley-Braun, Mr. Moynihan, Mr. Murkowski, Mrs. Murray, Mr. Nickles, Mr. Reed, Mr. Reid, Mr. Robb, Mr. Roberts, Mr. Rockefeller, Mr. Roth, Mr. Santorum, Mr. Sarbanes, Mr. Sessions, Mr. Shelby, Mr. Smith of New Hampshire, Mr. Smith of Oregon, Ms. Snowe, Mr. Specter, Mr. Stevens, Mr. Thomas, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Thurmond, Mr. Torricelli, Mr. Wellstone, and Mr. Wyden) submitted the following resolution; which was considered and agreed to. 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Res. 196 Whereas participation by the United States Armed Forces in combat operations in Southeast Asia during the period from 1964 through 1972 resulted in several hundreds of members of the United States Armed Forces being taken prisoner by North Vietnamese, Pathet Lao, and Viet Cong enemy forces; Whereas John McCain's A-4E Skyhawk was shot down over Hanoi, North Vietnam on October 26, 1967, and he remained in captivity until March 14, 1973; Whereas John McCain's aircraft was shorn of it's right wing by a surface-to- air missile and he plunged toward the ground at about 400 knots prior to ejecting; Whereas upon ejection, John McCain's right knee and both arms were broken; Whereas John McCain was surrounded by an angry mob who kicked him and spit on him, stabbed him with bayonets and smashed his shoulder with a rifle; Whereas United States prisoners of war in Southeast Asia were held in a number of facilities, the most notorious of which was Hoa Lo Prison in downtown Hanoi, dubbed the `Hanoi Hilton' by the prisoners held there; Whereas historians of the Vietnam war have recorded that `no American reached the prison camp of Hoa Lo in worse condition than John McCain'; Whereas his North Vietnamese captors recognized that John McCain came from a distinguished military family and caused him to suffer special beatings, special interrogations, and the cruel offer of a possible early release; Whereas John McCain sat in prison in Hanoi for over 5 years, risking death from disease and medical complications resulting from his injuries, steadfastly refusing to cooperate with his enemy captors because his sense of honor and duty would not permit him to even consider an early release based on special advantage; Whereas knowing his refusal to leave early may well result in his own death from his injuries John McCain told another prisoner `I don't think that's the right thing to do . . . . They'll have to drag me out of here'; Whereas following the Paris Peace Accords of January 1973, 591 United States prisoners of war were released from captivity by North Vietnam; Whereas the return of these prisoners of war to United States control and to their families and comrades was designated Operation Homecoming; Whereas many members of the United States Armed Forces who were taken prisoner as a result of ground or aerial combat in Southeast Asia have not returned to their loved ones and their whereabouts remain unknown; Whereas United States prisoners of war in Southeast Asia were routinely subjected to brutal mistreatment, including beatings, torture, starvation, and denial of medical attention; Whereas the hundreds of United States prisoners of war held in the Hanoi Hilton and other facilities persevered under terrible conditions; Whereas the prisoners were frequently isolated from each other and prohibited from speaking to each other; Whereas the prisoners nevertheless, at great personal risk, devised a means to communicate with each other through a code transmitted by tapping on cell walls; Whereas then-Commander James B. Stockdale, United States Navy, who upon his capture on September 9, 1965, became the senior POW officer present in the Hanoi Hilton, delivered to his men a message that was to sustain them during their ordeal, as follows: Remember, you are Americans. With faith in God, trust in one another, and devotion to your country, you will overcome. You will triumph; Whereas the men held as prisoners of war during the Vietnam conflict truly represent all that is best about America; Whereas Senator John McCain of Arizona has continued to honor the Nation with devoted service; and Whereas the Nation owes a debt of gratitude to John McCain and all of these patriots for their courage and exemplary service: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the Senate-- (1) expresses its gratitude for, and calls upon all Americans to reflect upon and show their gratitude for, the courage and sacrifice of John McCain and the brave men who were held as prisoners of war during the Vietnam conflict, particularly on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of Operation Homecoming, and the return to the United States of Senator John McCain; and (2) acting on behalf of all Americans-- (A) will not forget that more than 2,000 members of the United States Armed Forces remain unaccounted for from the Vietnam conflict; and (B) will continue to press for the fullest possible accounting for such members. You know someone better to run our country Vito? Well........ Joe But since he can not be bought ... he has no chance to win any election. But Joe, how did he become a senator? Gee, he won an election. And where do you think the $$$ to do that came from? Perhaps from the same penniless Buddist monks who financed Clinton?? |
Patriotism.
Maybe the Supreme Court will elect him if we ask nicely.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:36:09 -0400, "Vito" said: Hogwash! My boss and a bunch more guys flew more Intruder missions over 'nam than McCain WITHOUT loosing their $million aircraft and without spending time in prison. They are the heros. Have to disagree with you on that one. Offered the chance to be released by the NVs because he was an admiral's son, he refused to leave before his comrades could go too. That's guts. That said, while I respect the man, I think he's often wrong-headed, and probably should not be elected President. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick? |
Patriotism.
Horass is a margin of error.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Horvath wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:46:17 -0400, Walt Horvath wrote: You should follow the news. President George W. Bush is ahead in every poll. BZZZZZZT!!!! Wrong, dumbass. Some polls have Bush ahead, some have Kerry ahead, all are within the margin of error. CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. May 7-9 N=575 likely voters nationwide. MoE ± 5. Bush 48% Kerry 47% There ya go. You've admitted that President George W. Bush is ahead. Sometimes I think you strain yourself pretending to be stupider than you are. It must not be an easy task, but somehow you manage. Anyway, you said he was ahead in every poll. He's not. Not only that, he's not ahead in *any* poll beyond the margin of error. But you wouldn't understand what it means for results to be statistically significant, would you? -- //-Walt // // There's a village in Texas that's missing its idiot. |
Patriotism.
I think he's just in drag.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message .. . Walt wrote: Sometimes I think you strain yourself pretending to be stupider than you are. It must not be an easy task, but somehow you manage. IMHO Horvath is actually a bolshevik who wants to drag President Bush down by pretending to be a supporter. DSK |
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