Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote

A short walk from my boat is the schooner Dolphin, one of nine
schooners build by the Nazis to transport missiles to Peenemude.

yacht at all. Great history of that boat. I wonder if its an early
model of Oak Planking or the latter with pine.

3" Long Leaf Yellow Pine planking, custom milled for Dolphin by
New England Naval Timbers.

I've read that big slow moving props are more efficient that smaller
faster turning props. I imagine the Dolphin will be able to motor
well for it's size. Still, with that much wetted surface and gross
tonnage, I bet it burns some fuel under power.

They cut out four big sections of the shrink wrap today on
Dolphin so I guess they are starting work on her again. Pretty
lame of them to miss out on the ideal cool work weather we
have had. Perhaps they are running into financial problems.
A boat this size must cost $5000 for winter dry storage. I figure
it costs about $780 a month just to sit there--not to mention
repair work and materials. They are trying to sell shares in the
boat at $100,000 for 1/10 share. I don't think there are many
takers.

Bart Senior

Bart Senior wrote:
3" Long Leaf Yellow Pine planking, custom milled for Dolphin by
New England Naval Timbers.


I bet that was not easy to bend to shape.

I've read that big slow moving props are more efficient that smaller
faster turning props.

Yes, that is definitely the case. It's why big ships all have large,
slow turning props. Naval ships, for example, usually hit WOT around 200
RPM... the reduction gears are the most expensive part of the power plant.


... Perhaps they are running into financial problems.
A boat this size must cost $5000 for winter dry storage. I figure
it costs about $780 a month just to sit there--not to mention
repair work and materials. They are trying to sell shares in the
boat at $100,000 for 1/10 share. I don't think there are many
takers.

Might be fun, depending on what you could do with your share. I bet they
wouldn't let a 1/10th share owner actually take the boat out
independently for 1/10th of her season though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Might be fun, depending on what you could do with your share. I bet they
wouldn't let a 1/10th share owner actually take the boat out
independently for 1/10th of her season though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


ADVENTURES IN PARADISE, LLC, has been formed to fully restore the boat to
better than new condition, and fit the boat out for extended cruising and
commercial chartering. The LLC is being capitalized at $2 million. Half of
this amount is being invested by the initial five members of the LLC. The
other $1,000,000 is being offered for sale as 50 membership units in the LLC
at a cost of $20,000 each. Capital invested will be used to refit the vessel
and prepare it for income generating charter service. Once fully restored
and ready to sail (scheduled for fall of 2005), the Company will market and
sell a variety of cruise and charter packages to the public and to special
interest groups for 20-30 weeks per year. Marketing will occur through a
contracted management company as well as independently. These rentals will
generate $15,000 to $25,000 per week, reaching an annual revenue stream of
in excess of $500,000 within four years. After operating expenses,
management expects the business to generate a net annual income that grows
to more than $200,000 during the first five years.

Each membership share will entitle the member to two weeks of prepaid
all-inclusive vacation cruising for two people on Dolphin each year, plus a
share of profits from the charter business. It is projected that members
will receive an annual return on invested capital of 7 to 14% which will
average 11 percent. Additionally, shares may be sold, transferred, gifted or
traded freely. The owners will also receive a proportional share of any
proceeds from the eventual sale of the boat and business, thus more than
doubling their investment after five years. Details are included in the
Business Plan which follows.


The thing is, they're not guaranteeing your investment, indeed, the whole
project could go down the tubes before the boat is re-launched.
John Cairns

I've been considering a feathering prop. But I don't want a stolen one.

SV

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Bobsprit wrote:


I have a second buyer, off-ebay, if he doesn't pay. Those props cost 900
bucks,
so it is a good deal. I have many more props including some feathering
ones to
be auctioned off soon.

We made a couple of prop shafts (2" 318 SS) and brass nuts for a
ferro-cement barge being converted into a square rigger some years ago, IIRC
he was
using 23" props and they went for close to two grand apiece!

Cheers
Marty

Scott Vernon wrote:

I've been considering a feathering prop. But I don't want a stolen one.


More like you dont want one that Bob stole. ;-o

Cheers
Marty

DSK wrote

Bart Senior wrote:
3" Long Leaf Yellow Pine planking, custom milled for Dolphin by
New England Naval Timbers.


I bet that was not easy to bend to shape.

I've always thought pine was easy to work. After looking at that
lumber I have to agree with you. They are using 1/2" or bigger
galvanized bolts to fasten them to the steel frames, and then
plugging the counter sunk holes with wood, and then caulking.

I've read that big slow moving props are more efficient that smaller
faster turning props.

Yes, that is definitely the case. It's why big ships all have large,
slow turning props. Naval ships, for example, usually hit WOT around 200
RPM... the reduction gears are the most expensive part of the power plant.

Have you read about regenerative motor sailing? I ran into this
yesterday while researching props. Big props are key to making
that work. I think it only makes sense when you have a light boat.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/S...20motor%20sail
ing.html

... Perhaps they are running into financial problems.
A boat this size must cost $5000 for winter dry storage. I figure
it costs about $780 a month just to sit there--not to mention
repair work and materials. They are trying to sell shares in the
boat at $100,000 for 1/10 share. I don't think there are many
takers.

Might be fun, depending on what you could do with your share. I bet they
wouldn't let a 1/10th share owner actually take the boat out
independently for 1/10th of her season though.

That would be attractive, if you could do that. Unfortunately, wooden
vessels like this cost so much to maintain, that purchasing shares is an
opportunity to lose money.

The Quinipiac, a schooner, is getting some maintenance work done.

http://www.schoonersoundlearning.org/siboat.html

There are many volunteers helping. This schooner has a shallow
draft and looks like it won't sail to weather until you find out it has
a 12' centerboard. I'm going to see if I can get a ride on her later
this year. Without donations, non-profit status, and volunteer
help, she would probablly be rotting or sold for scrap.

Bart

More like you dont want one that Bob stole. ;-o

Cheers
Marty

I have a Martec folding prop in new condition, which is a perfect fit for
Scotty's boat. I also have a Gori (Sp?) from Catalina 42. They're going on ebay
soon.

RB

On 03 May 2004 19:02:05 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

More like you dont want one that Bob stole. ;-o

Cheers
Marty

I have a Martec folding prop in new condition, which is a perfect fit for
Scotty's boat. I also have a Gori (Sp?) from Catalina 42. They're going on ebay
soon.

RB

What size?

I have a Martec folding prop in new condition, which is a perfect fit for
Scotty's boat. I also have a Gori (Sp?) from Catalina 42. They're going on
ebay
soon.

RB

What size?


I don't have the sizes yet. The smaller prop came off a Pearson 31.

RB

If you don't know the size, how can you say it's a perfect fit for my boat?

S

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I have a Martec folding prop in new condition, which is a perfect fit for
Scotty's boat. I also have a Gori (Sp?) from Catalina 42. They're going
on
ebay
soon.

RB

What size?


I don't have the sizes yet. The smaller prop will be taken off a Pearson
31 tonight.

RB