Tad;

The "Dutch" have done damn well, for years with Leeboards in their thin
waters but they don't berth them!

OT

Bart said: You need a catamarran or a Cat boat

I'm not much for catamarran's at all but we have talked about a
catboat...saw one we really liked at the boat show in February....also
thought maybe something like a Point St Jude, which would be great for
gunkholing around, too, but still sail nicely....but then, there is that cb
Elite sitting down there....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Catboat sailors are not good sailors in general. You'll see evidence of
this on their web sites where its stated they never reef or go out when
it's windy. http://www.beetlecat.com/reefing.htm

What's a Point St Jude? I couldn't find one in a google search.

katysails wrote in message
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Bart said: You need a catamarran or a Cat boat

I'm not much for catamarran's at all but we have talked about a
catboat...saw one we really liked at the boat show in February....also
thought maybe something like a Point St Jude, which would be great for
gunkholing around, too, but still sail nicely....but then, there is that
cb
Elite sitting down there....

--
katysails

Goodness me, Bart! the Beetle Cat is a 12' boat, even if it is 6'
wide! I think Katy is after a little bigger, somehow. While she
refuses even to consider a catboat with the good sailing manners
and magic accommodation of the cat yawl Lady Kate, nevertheless a
decent sized catboat, say 25', would work extremely well in the
waters she's describing, even if the centreboard divides the
cabin into two....

Flying Tadpole
Skipper extraordinaire at various times of cat schooners, cat
boats and cat yawls!

Bart Senior wrote:

Catboat sailors are not good sailors in general. You'll see evidence of
this on their web sites where its stated they never reef or go out when
it's windy. http://www.beetlecat.com/reefing.htm

Taddy said:
Goodness me, Bart!

What's with the Jaye moniker, Taddy?
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Bart Senior wrote:
Catboat sailors are not good sailors in general.

Hoo-wee... Bart that is really a wild statement. Would you include Laser
sailors in that sweeping generalization??


... You'll see evidence of
this on their web sites where its stated they never reef or go out when
it's windy. http://www.beetlecat.com/reefing.htm

Well, the Beetle Cat is basically a one-design racing dinghy. True, the
design is over 75 years old IIRC, and it is closely modelled on classic
catboats of an even earlier era, but it is a one-design racing dinghy.

Bigger catboats definitely reef their sails. With the very long boom, it
can be a challenge unless cleverly rigged. My family owned a 22' catboat
with a 455 SqFt mainsail... I can tell you from personal experience that
*some* catboat sailors reef when appropriate.


What's a Point St Jude? I couldn't find one in a google search.

I don't know of a web site talking about them, but it's a 15' hard chine
old fashioned daysailer. Pretty boats, usually with tanbark sails.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I'm quoting them right off their Beettle Cat Web site.

They feely admit their lack of skill.

I wouldn't include laser sailors. I'd rate them on the
other end of the scale.

Bart.

DSK wrote

Hoo-wee... Bart that is really a wild statement. Would you include Laser
sailors in that sweeping generalization??

... You'll see evidence of
this on their web sites where its stated they never reef or go out when
it's windy. http://www.beetlecat.com/reefing.htm

Bart asked: What's a Point St. Jude?

Sorry...my Catholicism getting in the way...anything Jude must be a saint?
http://www.pointjude.com/

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

There's a dealer for them near here. Looked at one while shopping for a
daysailor. Beatifull boat!

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
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Bart asked: What's a Point St. Jude?

Sorry...my Catholicism getting in the way...anything Jude must be a saint?
http://www.pointjude.com/

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:02:19 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

Bart said: You need a catamarran or a Cat boat

I'm not much for catamarran's at all but we have talked about a
catboat...saw one we really liked at the boat show in February....also
thought maybe something like a Point St Jude, which would be great for
gunkholing around, too, but still sail nicely....but then, there is that cb
Elite sitting down there....

Here you go. Just hit our local "for sale" newsgroup.

http://home.comcast.net/~miller.kirk/macgregor26.html