Racing Question
 

"DSK" wrote in message
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The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

My skipper would SCREAM that you were slowing the boat down if you did
anything like that. Times change, I guess.
John Cairns

Racing Question
 

N1EE wrote:
What do some sailboat racers throw overboard
just before the leeward mark?

Superfluous crew. Speaking of which, our skipper said last night that a boat
must finish the race with the same number of crew that it started with,
which raised a couple of quesitons...

Does it have to be the same crew - can you, say, swap crew with another boat
in mid-race?

Can the surplus ones be tipped overboard after the race starts, and picked
up just before the end?


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Wally
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Racing Question
 

John Cairns wrote:

Interesting. Say you lose a crewmember overboard, and can't locate
them. Are you disqualified?

RRS 47.2 doesn't answer that, but does clarify my earlier post a little...

No person on board shall intentionally leave, except when ill or injured, or
to help a person or vessel in danger, or to swim. A person leaving the boat
by accident or to swim shall be back on board before the boat continues the
race.


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Wally
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www.wally.myby.co.uk/music

Racing Question
 

Wally wrote:
John Cairns wrote:

Interesting. Say you lose a crewmember overboard, and can't locate
them. Are you disqualified?

A
person leaving the boat by accident ... shall be back on board
before the boat continues the race.

I guess it imples disqualification, or that you'd be posted as a DNF.


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Wally
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www.wally.myby.co.uk/music

Racing Question
 

"Wally" wrote in message
...
N1EE wrote:
What do some sailboat racers throw overboard
just before the leeward mark?

Superfluous crew. Speaking of which, our skipper said last night that a
boat
must finish the race with the same number of crew that it started with,
which raised a couple of quesitons...

Does it have to be the same crew - can you, say, swap crew with another
boat
in mid-race?

Can the surplus ones be tipped overboard after the race starts, and picked
up just before the end?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk/music

Interesting. Say you lose a crewmember overboard, and can't locate them. Are
you disqualified?
John Cairns

Racing Question
 

1 point to you Doug.

The local Star sailors here still do it.
I've never done it myself, I usually start
with the bitter end and let it fall randomly,
and only had one easly to clear snag using
that method.

I might consider it in fresh water. I'd
prefer to keep my lines clean and dry.

Have you ever used that method?

Bart

DSK wrote

N1EE wrote:
What do some sailboat racers throw overboard
just before the leeward mark?

The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

Racing Question
 

Gawd,
We gave that up when we went to braided halyards.
I hadn't thought about it, but the chutes are so light and the boats so
fast these days - you might have to Pull it down with a tail fling.
It also made life interesting at the winches when that wet line
whiplashed accross the cockpit.
Matt Colie



DSK wrote:

N1EE wrote:

What do some sailboat racers throw overboard just before the leeward
mark?


The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

Racing Question
 

We used to call it an "asshole" when the spinnaker
halyard or some other line would get a round turned
jammed in a block or something. I can remember it
happening a few times during spinnaker takedowns
when I raced as Etchells crew in SF. It never
caused a series probelm there.

On an Express 37, a round trun ground into a cheek
block put us in serious trouble. Everyone else was
on the high side, the boat was flat on it's ear, and
I was the only man on the low side. I managed to
clear it, but was seriously thinking about cutting it.

Thinking back on it now, it is kind of funny when
a couple guys are yelling "ASSHOLE" "ASSHOLE" over
and over again. Anyone not in on the term would
be confused.

Does anyone else use that term in that manner?

Bart



Matt Colie wrote

Gawd,
We gave that up when we went to braided halyards.
I hadn't thought about it, but the chutes are so light and the boats so
fast these days - you might have to Pull it down with a tail fling.
It also made life interesting at the winches when that wet line
whiplashed accross the cockpit.
Matt Colie



DSK wrote:

N1EE wrote:

What do some sailboat racers throw overboard just before the leeward
mark?


The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

Racing Question
 

Bart,

I have know that label for both that little turn that
jams the line at a block and the little puckers(?) that
the yarns of a laid line form when it is coiled backward
and run free a couple of times (does this make any sense?).

More description: The three individual yarns of a laid line
can be made to each stick out of the lay and roll a half turn
each causing three little lumps sticking out of the lay
usually at the same location along the line, but each at
its own yarn location.

Matt

N1EE wrote:

We used to call it an "asshole" when the spinnaker
halyard or some other line would get a round turned
jammed in a block or something. I can remember it
happening a few times during spinnaker takedowns
when I raced as Etchells crew in SF. It never
caused a series probelm there.

On an Express 37, a round trun ground into a cheek
block put us in serious trouble. Everyone else was
on the high side, the boat was flat on it's ear, and
I was the only man on the low side. I managed to
clear it, but was seriously thinking about cutting it.

Thinking back on it now, it is kind of funny when
a couple guys are yelling "ASSHOLE" "ASSHOLE" over
and over again. Anyone not in on the term would
be confused.

Does anyone else use that term in that manner?

Bart



Matt Colie wrote


Gawd,
We gave that up when we went to braided halyards.
I hadn't thought about it, but the chutes are so light and the boats so
fast these days - you might have to Pull it down with a tail fling.
It also made life interesting at the winches when that wet line
whiplashed accross the cockpit.
Matt Colie



DSK wrote:


N1EE wrote:


What do some sailboat racers throw overboard just before the leeward
mark?


The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King

Racing Question
 

More than that it's illegal to intentionally throw objects overboard
(here anyway).

Cheers

DSK wrote:

N1EE wrote:

What do some sailboat racers throw overboard just before the leeward
mark?


The tail of the spinnaker halyard.

Bart, you may be showing your age (and mine) here. This was failry
common about 40 years ago, and I don't recall seeing anybody do it for
about 20. The idea was to shake the tangle out and control the speed of
the douse.

Fresh Breezes
Doug King