You're going to use the ladder after you run it up on the
beach???

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| He probably won't do that either, Wally. Most of what he spoke of
concerned
| taking the boat into shallow waters so his kids could swim and play.
The
Mac
| should work well in this regard.

No Bob it won't... the design is not suited to a stop & swim philosophy.
The
huge outboard and rocking motion will at anchor make it dangerous to use
the
ladder in all but the calmest condition.

CM

Not if it's beached on the shore.

Jim

You're almost as bad a liar as Bob****. Very rarely have I even seen
one IN the bay. Mostly, there they wallow or run under engine. I've
never seen one sailed properly (assuming that's even possible).

It would be just your level of stupidity to think that venturing out of
the Gate would be appropriate for a MacCrap.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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The Macs are designed for coastal cruising. They are sailed routinely
off the California coast, in SF Bay, out to Catalina Island, etc.

Jim

It's crystal clear. You have yet to prove this isn't so. We're
all waiting. Prove it or shut up.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Clear that Jim wanted the Mac all along?

Actually, although I have always liked the versatility of the Macs, my
personal choice would have been the Cal 34 that I mentioned earlier, and
I was ready to put a deposit on it. However, my wife was adamantly
opposed to the Cal because of the unfortunate appearance of its
interior. - My continued defense of the Macs on this ng derives from my
observation that the Macs haven't got fair treatment or accurate
characterizations on this ng. I'm trying to bring a little balance to
the discussion.

Jim



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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How about his expectation that he can motor away from incoming heavy
weather
at lots of knots when the boat has the usual complement of sails, spars,
people, and gear? He seems to think he can make 'book speed', when that
speed is quoted for an unloaded and stripped-down boat. I gather the
reality
is that he'll make little more than a decent sailboat (10kt or so?) and
that's keeping everyone below or in the cockpit.


Even loaded down and with some chop, he can still make a run for home
faster
than any sailboat of aprox. the same size. If he miscalculates, blows
his

tanks

and then gets caught unbalasted, he'll regret it.
Understand, Wally, I have no respect for the Mac line. BUT, I won't say
that

it

can't make SOME owners happy within it's narrow limits. To argue those
limits
becomes somewhat futile when you don't know the owner or his variables.
As I said, I wish Jim good luck with his boat.

RB

MacBoy,

So, you're admitting now that you're a liar. Thanks.

He doesn't have to try. You're doing it yourself.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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As understood, you were reading those notes for entertainment value. The
"100 miles offshore" in "70 knot winds" was obviously intended as
entertainment. I really didn't think it was necessary to explain that.

You probably ought to consider that note in context with a number of
other notes in which I emphasized that I wasn't going to go out in heavy
weather, but intended to be prepared for whatever came, and that I was
going to return to port early if weather conditions changed.

In other words, the 70-knot wind note was obviously a joke, and if you
weren't trying to put me down, you would have acknowledged that it was a
joke yourself. - But, of course, you are tryng to put me down, so you
won't.

Jim

No. Post it. Why should you have to wait? It's pretty simple
to shut me up. Go for it. You don't because you can't. QED.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You know what proof. You don't have it. You are no sailor. You're
also beyond stupid to listen to or communicate with boober.

I'm assuming that you want me to post a copy of my order form to "prove"
that I ordered the boat whan I said I did. Is that what you are talking
about, John? I'll show the order form to Joe,and he can report back to
the group. - Will that be OK?

Jim

MacBoy,

So, you're admitting now that you're a liar. Thanks.

No. he's admitting he has a sense of humor. Some people here clearlly don't.

RB

You're going to use the ladder after you run it up on the
beach???

Jonathan has clearly no knowledge of the 26.

RB

We're
all waiting.



"All" waiting. I think only Jonathan and a few other non-sailors are waiting.
The rest have lives and boats to sail.

RB

No. Post it. Why should you have to wait? It's pretty simple
to shut me up. Go for it. You don't because you can't. QED.

Jim, don't post any proof. I'd like to see some pics of the boat when you get
her and hear your sailing impressions. Others here will make a few snide
comments, but I'd bet that even they'd like to know how the new design
performs. Ganz is only a troll who will continue to be angry that you can
afford a new boat of any kind. Believe me, that's all there is to it.

RB

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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He seems to think he can make 'book speed', when that
speed is quoted for an unloaded and stripped-down boat.


What's the date and time of that particular post,
Wally? I can't seem to find it.



You've taken your lessons from RB well, Jim. You enjoy trading meaningless
insults but when it comes to the truth you suddenly get very quiet. You
blatantly lie about what others say, and then you claim not to remember your own
statements, even when they've been posted for you.

Here's your comments again:

"Am I going to be stranded off-shore in unexpected weather conditions? -
(Actually, since the boat can motor back at 18 mph, it has a better
chance of getting back to shore faster than a displacement boat."

"I'm getting a boat that's capable of motoring in 1.5 feet of water and
sailing offshore, motoring at 18 knots to a desired destination, "

"Regarding access to good sailing areas, the MacGregor can plane out
to the desired sailing are at around 15-18 knots"

"Like, planing the boat at around 12 knots under sail, or 18
knots under power."


You're just a cheap lying troll, aren't you Jim? I was willing to take you on
face value, but your complete dishonesty is beginning to make you look like a
salesman after all.