"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| He probably won't do that either, Wally. Most of what he spoke of
concerned
| taking the boat into shallow waters so his kids could swim and play. The
Mac
| should work well in this regard.

No Bob it won't... the design is not suited to a stop & swim philosophy. The
huge outboard and rocking motion will at anchor make it dangerous to use the
ladder in all but the calmest condition.

CM

I take it you have never sailed any of the Mac series Bob.... or you
wouldn't make that statement.

Macs have certainly been hit by the occasional squall and live to tell the
tale. Let's not go crazy here. I admit that the 26 is cheap cheap cheap, but it
can handle what most weekend boaters will toss at it. The kind of person who
buys it lacks the know-how and balls to challenge it's design much. Of course
the "stupid factor" can come into play, but that works on good boats as well.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| Macs have certainly been hit by the occasional squall and live to tell the
| tale. Let's not go crazy here. I admit that the 26 is cheap cheap cheap,
but it
| can handle what most weekend boaters will toss at it.

This is the point of contention.... the vessel will not meet it's
advertised capabilities and the company bases it's selling point on the fact
that most buyers are "week-enders" and neophytes that view a 20 knot wind as
a squall.


The kind of person who
| buys it lacks the know-how and balls to challenge it's design much. Of
course
| the "stupid factor" can come into play, but that works on good boats as
well.

It's this very mantle of ignorance that is donned by anyone owning a Mac
that we are desperately trying to get Jim to doff. He claims experience on
other boats but displays a fundamental lack of comprehension as to vessel
quality and handling characteristics. This alone is cause for concern....
add to it a poorly designed and engineered mutant of power/sail..... it
amounts to a recipe for disaster.

To top off this exercise in ignorance is the fact he will place his
grandchildren in harm's way to prove his misconceptions. I believe he really
thinks that he is a match for Red Cloud. That my friend is dangerous in the
extreme.

To wish him well is akin to wishing a suicide jumper a nice trip down.....

CM

To wish him well is akin to wishing a suicide jumper a nice trip down.....


We've all attempted to explain the situation. He's gone ahead in any case,
assuming that the ads and copy must be "mostly" true.
There's nothing left now but to wish him well and be done with it. Last season
I met a 26X owner who "liked" his boat. Some people think Bush is a good
president. What can be done? I'm wearing my "Re-Defeat Bush" button and
enjoying the season.

RB

I concur..... on all counts Bob.

Nonetheless... I enjoyed Jim's posts. ;-)

CM



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| To wish him well is akin to wishing a suicide jumper a nice trip
down.....
|
|
| We've all attempted to explain the situation. He's gone ahead in any case,
| assuming that the ads and copy must be "mostly" true.
| There's nothing left now but to wish him well and be done with it. Last
season
| I met a 26X owner who "liked" his boat. Some people think Bush is a good
| president. What can be done? I'm wearing my "Re-Defeat Bush" button and
| enjoying the season.
|
| RB

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| He probably won't do that either, Wally. Most of what he spoke of
concerned
| taking the boat into shallow waters so his kids could swim and play. The
Mac
| should work well in this regard.

No Bob it won't... the design is not suited to a stop & swim philosophy. The
huge outboard and rocking motion will at anchor make it dangerous to use the
ladder in all but the calmest condition.

CM

Not if it's beached on the shore.

Jim

You're going to use the ladder after you run it up on the
beach???

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| He probably won't do that either, Wally. Most of what he spoke of
concerned
| taking the boat into shallow waters so his kids could swim and play.
The
Mac
| should work well in this regard.

No Bob it won't... the design is not suited to a stop & swim philosophy.
The
huge outboard and rocking motion will at anchor make it dangerous to use
the
ladder in all but the calmest condition.

CM

Not if it's beached on the shore.

Jim

You're going to use the ladder after you run it up on the
beach???

Jonathan has clearly no knowledge of the 26.

RB

And, you have no experience with the truth. You do have
lots of experience with lying an ripping people off. SO YOU
WIN.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You're going to use the ladder after you run it up on the
beach???

Jonathan has clearly no knowledge of the 26.

RB

And, you have no experience with the truth. You do have
lots of experience with lying an ripping people off.

Ripping people off? My ebail sales have 100% rating. I guess you didn't check
to see where that one negative was from...a seller who cheated me out of 180
bucks.
Enjoy your toy boat!


RB