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mike April 16th 04 02:11 AM

dripless packing glands
 
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike

Bobsprit April 16th 04 03:18 AM

dripless packing glands
 
My wife's glands, when packed, definitely drip.

RB


"mike" wrote in message
om...
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike




Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:24 AM

dripless packing glands
 
That's what I heard, something about sand or crud getting in between the
sealing area. I was considering one, but my packing is very easy to get to
and adjust.

Scotty


"mike" wrote in message
om...
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike



John Cairns April 16th 04 03:54 AM

dripless packing glands
 
"mike" wrote in message
om...
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike


I thought about getting one a while back, $$$$$$ plus the original packing
on my boat lasted 9 seasons until I had to change it. You should only have
to tighten the gland once a season, the "dripless" packing glands have
annual start up "burping" procedure also IIRC, if this is true it puts you
essentially in the same position you were before :)
John Cairns



Scott Vernon April 16th 04 04:02 AM

dripless packing glands
 
and shouldn't Barb be doing that stuff?

Scotty


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
"mike" wrote in message
om...
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike


I thought about getting one a while back, $$$$$$ plus the original packing
on my boat lasted 9 seasons until I had to change it. You should only have
to tighten the gland once a season, the "dripless" packing glands have
annual start up "burping" procedure also IIRC, if this is true it puts you
essentially in the same position you were before :)
John Cairns




Lady Sailor April 16th 04 06:13 PM

dripless packing glands
 
Noooooo! It'll muss up my manicure.

Lady B.



"Scott Vernon" wrote:
and shouldn't Barb be doing that stuff?

Scotty


katysails April 16th 04 11:05 PM

dripless packing glands
 
Barb screamed:
Noooooo! It'll muss up my manicure.

For shame.....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



DSK April 17th 04 08:04 PM

dripless packing glands
 
mike wrote:
So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?


I've never known a boat to sink, but I've never known one of these
things to remain dripless for more than a year or so. They also overheat
occasionally and are generally a PITA. Nowhere near worth the money IMHO

It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...


Cut a new hatch or something. Access to the packing gland is very basic.
Difficult access is very poor design. Ever wonder what else they messed
up on your boat?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


felton April 17th 04 08:38 PM

dripless packing glands
 
On 15 Apr 2004 18:11:20 -0700, (mike) wrote:

So I ordered a dripless packing unit from PYI inc. in Seattle, and
they shipped the wrong size (I ordered 1" shaft, 2" shaft tube, they
sent 1 1/8" x 1 3/4). Then somebody tells me that I really didn't
want dripless at all because when they fail, you sink.
Anybody know anything from rumour or personal experience about these
things?
It's a major hassle tightening the packing on my boat- very hard to
reach unless you're that comic book guy from the Fantastic Four with
the really long arms...
Mike


There seems to be a fair amount of hysteria about the risks of
"catastrophic failure" with these things. I have had three of them on
three different boats and I love them. I think it is helpful to see
what the builders of better boats are doing. I believe many/most are
building their boats with the dripless shaft seals.

I discussed this with one of the Worstells, who build Valiant as to
their approach to the dripless shaft seals, which they install on the
Valiants. He told me that he couldn't foresee any reason why the PYI
would be any more prone to failure that a traditional stuffing box.
He went on to say that over the years, he had seen more damage to
sailboats from water in the boat than any other single cause. Leaks,
stuffing boaxes, that sort of thing. In other words, keep your boat
dry. It makes sense to me.

I am not aware of builders of quality boats shying away from them out
of any safety concerns. That should tell you something.

mike April 17th 04 08:45 PM

dripless packing glands
 
"katysails" wrote in message ...
Barb screamed:
Noooooo! It'll muss up my manicure.

For shame.....


Don't believe her, Katy. She's just usually too tired after she's
finished scrubbing barnicles off the prop and changing the oil...


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