http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm

What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance
under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but
I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're
now including pelicans for the lifelines.

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"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
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http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm

One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how
well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison
between the 26M and a J-133 may be more apt than the earlier comparison with
a Valiant.

--AG


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance
under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but
I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're
now including pelicans for the lifelines.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
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http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm

"Alan Goofy" with the help of a thousand monkeys banging
on keyboards, was finally able
to type out the following:
news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03...
One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how
well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison
between the 26M and a pig trough may be more apt than the earlier
comparison with
a porta-potti
--AG

Whilst trolling, you need to be a little more subtle

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Alan Goofy" with the help of a thousand monkeys banging
on keyboards, was finally able
to type out the following:
news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03...
One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is
how
well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison
between the 26M and a pig trough may be more apt than the earlier
comparison with
a porta-potti
--AG

Whilst trolling, you need to be a little more subtle



Hehehee. What are friends for, anyway?

LP (parse that sentence)

Big deal. It supposedly handles ok without a jib. That's not much
of a testimonial. In conditions where sailing without a jib is appropriate,
would be totally inappropriate for an X or M.

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"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03...
One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how
well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison
between the 26M and a J-133 may be more apt than the earlier comparison
with
a Valiant.

--AG


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance
under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but
I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're
now including pelicans for the lifelines.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03...
http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm

I especially liked the floatation in the mast - it gives you a good feeling for
the stability of the boat.

A lot of the "improvements" just showed the weaknesses of the old model. I did
a quick check at the asking prices for older 26X's - it looks like a 5 year old
boat could be had for about half of the original price.




"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance
under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but
I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're
now including pelicans for the lifelines.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Alan Gomes" wrote in message
news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03...
http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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A lot of the "improvements" just showed the weaknesses of the old model.
I did
a quick check at the asking prices for older 26X's - it looks like a 5
year old
boat could be had for about half of the original price.


Pretty obvious why they came out with a "new" model.............

"In March of 2003, MacGregor introduced the all new MacGregor 26M, to
replace the 26X that had been in production for 7 years. Approximately 5000
of the X had been produced before being replaced by the M. The new boat is
substantially different from the old. The following is a summary of the
changes"

Difficult to sell new boats when you have a gazillion used ones on the
market for up to 50% of the asking price of a new boat. Now Roger & Co. can
claim that they have a "new" boat, that you can't compare to the "old" boat.
Has to be really tough if you're one of the unfortunates selling a used one.
Some poor sod is trying to sell his locally for $25,900. The ad below his
lists the same model, same year, for $18,000!!!!!!!!

"The most striking difference in speed was when both boats were sailing with
main alone. In typical conditions, when the 26x was sailing with main and
jib, it was going about 5.7 mph. When the jib was furled, the speed dropped
by 2 mph. With the new boat, when the jib was furled, the speed dropped by
only 1 mph, with little change in the balance of the boat."

Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for a
sailboat.

John Cairns

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 03:27:40 -0400, "John Cairns"
wrote:

"The most striking difference in speed was when both boats were sailing with
main alone. In typical conditions, when the 26x was sailing with main and
jib, it was going about 5.7 mph. When the jib was furled, the speed dropped
by 2 mph. With the new boat, when the jib was furled, the speed dropped by
only 1 mph, with little change in the balance of the boat."

Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for a
sailboat.

The weird thing is, they claim better performance with the new hull
shape, yet the topspeed of both seems the same, even when the
new one has a taller rig. It also seems that the jib isn't very
functional on the new one...


Cheers!


Remco

MacGregor makes no qualms about lubbery speak, in fact in their brochures
they proudly claim to speak in lubbery fashion so as not to confuse the
beginner, which after all, is their main target.

Scotty


"John Cairns" wrote in message
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Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for
a
sailboat.

John Cairns