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The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
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The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance
under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're now including pelicans for the lifelines. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03... http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how
well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison between the 26M and a J-133 may be more apt than the earlier comparison with a Valiant. --AG "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're now including pelicans for the lifelines. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03... http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
I especially liked the floatation in the mast - it gives you a good feeling for
the stability of the boat. A lot of the "improvements" just showed the weaknesses of the old model. I did a quick check at the asking prices for older 26X's - it looks like a 5 year old boat could be had for about half of the original price. "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're now including pelicans for the lifelines. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03... http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"Alan Goofy" with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to type out the following: news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03... One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison between the 26M and a pig trough may be more apt than the earlier comparison with a porta-potti --AG Whilst trolling, you need to be a little more subtle |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
Big deal. It supposedly handles ok without a jib. That's not much
of a testimonial. In conditions where sailing without a jib is appropriate, would be totally inappropriate for an X or M. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03... One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison between the 26M and a J-133 may be more apt than the earlier comparison with a Valiant. --AG "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... What a bunch of unmitigated crap. It's all about appearance, performance under power (mostly), and they can't even list knots (they use mph), but I suppose with a 50hp engine, that's all you can expect. Wow, they're now including pelicans for the lifelines. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03... http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"Alan Gomes" wrote in message news:8g_bc.69279$gA5.839220@attbi_s03... http://www.macgregor26.com/comparison_26x_and_26m.htm ROFLLLL.....Good one! LP (hint, change your bait) |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"John Cairns" wrote in message ... "Alan Goofy" with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to type out the following: news:ME%bc.69822$gA5.843544@attbi_s03... One intriguing advantage of the "M" over the "X" that caught my eye is how well the "M" handles under main alone. In that respect the comparison between the 26M and a pig trough may be more apt than the earlier comparison with a porta-potti --AG Whilst trolling, you need to be a little more subtle Hehehee. What are friends for, anyway? LP (parse that sentence) |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
I liked the pitch where they said they increased the size of the mast (fore and
aft dimension) which allowed the elimination of the backstay which lowered weight aloft. Duh what about the larger mast section? Does it not weigh more than the old mast section? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... I liked the pitch where they said they increased the size of the mast (fore and aft dimension) which allowed the elimination of the backstay which lowered weight aloft. Duh what about the larger mast section? Does it not weigh more than the old mast section? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" Why do you post exacly like Bobsprit, BillBinary and others? LP (just curious) |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
Lady Pilot wrote: "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... I liked the pitch where they said they increased the size of the mast (fore and aft dimension) which allowed the elimination of the backstay which lowered weight aloft. Duh what about the larger mast section? Does it not weigh more than the old mast section? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" Why do you post exacly like Bobsprit, BillBinary and others? LP (just curious) It's a fucntion of AOLamers, I suspect. FTR, Loco is not BS or BB. Ask him about his winter sports. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! http://www.internetopera.netfirms.com |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
Why do you post exacly like Bobsprit, BillBinary and others?
Where in the hell do you get that at? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... A lot of the "improvements" just showed the weaknesses of the old model. I did a quick check at the asking prices for older 26X's - it looks like a 5 year old boat could be had for about half of the original price. Pretty obvious why they came out with a "new" model............. "In March of 2003, MacGregor introduced the all new MacGregor 26M, to replace the 26X that had been in production for 7 years. Approximately 5000 of the X had been produced before being replaced by the M. The new boat is substantially different from the old. The following is a summary of the changes" Difficult to sell new boats when you have a gazillion used ones on the market for up to 50% of the asking price of a new boat. Now Roger & Co. can claim that they have a "new" boat, that you can't compare to the "old" boat. Has to be really tough if you're one of the unfortunates selling a used one. Some poor sod is trying to sell his locally for $25,900. The ad below his lists the same model, same year, for $18,000!!!!!!!! "The most striking difference in speed was when both boats were sailing with main alone. In typical conditions, when the 26x was sailing with main and jib, it was going about 5.7 mph. When the jib was furled, the speed dropped by 2 mph. With the new boat, when the jib was furled, the speed dropped by only 1 mph, with little change in the balance of the boat." Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for a sailboat. John Cairns |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 03:27:40 -0400, "John Cairns"
wrote: "The most striking difference in speed was when both boats were sailing with main alone. In typical conditions, when the 26x was sailing with main and jib, it was going about 5.7 mph. When the jib was furled, the speed dropped by 2 mph. With the new boat, when the jib was furled, the speed dropped by only 1 mph, with little change in the balance of the boat." Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for a sailboat. The weird thing is, they claim better performance with the new hull shape, yet the topspeed of both seems the same, even when the new one has a taller rig. It also seems that the jib isn't very functional on the new one... Cheers! Remco |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
MacGregor makes no qualms about lubbery speak, in fact in their brochures
they proudly claim to speak in lubbery fashion so as not to confuse the beginner, which after all, is their main target. Scotty "John Cairns" wrote in message ... Can't recall the last time I've read something so lubberly in a pitch for a sailboat. John Cairns |
The Mac 26M: New and Improved!
"Flying Tadpole" wrote: Lady Pilot wrote: S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" Why do you post exacly like Bobsprit, BillBinary and others? LP (just curious) It's a fucntion of AOLamers, Friends don't let friends use AOL. It's just un-exceptable and I have converted many of followers. I suspect. FTR, Loco is not BS or BB. Ask him about his winter sports. I realize they are not the same, at least Loco isn't...I was referring to the posting style. No offense to any of them. LP (yes, it's offense here, not offence...heh) |
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