I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing maiming
robbing
me or mine. Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/
murderer/ gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade? In a country or state where you
KNOW no one
has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone
MAY have
such a weapon. If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose.
One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front
door?

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On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 08:01:21 -0500, Martin Baxter wrote:

JAXAshby wrote:
snip...
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners_...ts/visitin.asp
that's a start. that site doesn't mention protection from wildlife,
but the
canadian site does. I just didn't spend any time looking for it.

Reading comprehension problems again? I wrote "you", we have a strict
policy against
allowing sociopaths to enter the country, armed or not.

Cheers
Marty

I 'guess' i can see the logic of 'packing' in the US where many other
packer's are and where you are 100:1 more likley to be gunned down cf
Canada...But the argument wears mighty thin regarding packing in Canada
where you have to try hard to find a reason to do so ....drug smokin
hippies, shady cops, mean animals, commie *******s.. other
'un-enlightened' Americans...which one gives you such concern that you
would try to kill them?

The right to bear arms [and risk a sunburn] applies only to certain states
with those United States and has no pluck anywhere else in the world. Just
don't visit Canada if you feel the need to have a person killing m,achine
on your person. The cops are SO antigun here that a 911 call metioning
the word GUN will brign the wrath of god on the perps...whereas pulling a
pistol from a a shaky hand will get you beat to death.
IMHO
rick
rick

Try to think of it this way. If you were a ... gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade?

ah, maybe where the girls are who want a gaggle of guys at one time?

so, you wanna use a gun to stop the guys or stop the girls who want the guys?

"JR" wrote...
I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing
maiming
robbing
me or mine.

How? hitting them with your purse?

Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/
murderer/ gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade?

robber=bank or 7-11 store
rapist=local college girls dorm
murdere=where the person I want to murder is
gangbanger=local college girls dorm

In a country or state where you
KNOW no one
has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where everyone
MAY have
such a weapon.

More likely, the country that you are in.

If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose.
One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front
door?


whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a
desirable theft item.



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hope you know more about puters than you do guns.

SV

I am a former police officer of a small Pennsylvania town.
I have an extensive collection of firearms, mostly handguns
with a few hunting rifles and shotguns.
If you want to break into my home and steal my guns
you will have to either break open my gunsafe or
carry the 1200 lb monster out my basement door.
There are few robberies here as most home owners
in this area do own firearms. There are a few burglaries
however, usually with the perps looking for cash or
electronics. More often than not any firearms
are locked up or well hidden.
I'm not WANTING to KILL anyone. I am WANTING
to STOP anyone trying to rob or hurt me or my
family. The thought of the perp being killed
is secondary to STOPPING them.
I do not have any firearms on my boat, but
would seriously consider it if I were to sail off shore.
I hope you know more about sailing than you do about
firearms and their use/abuse. Otherwise you are one
of the most dangerous persons on the water.
To yourself and others.
Respectfully and Sincerely,
JR

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"JR" wrote...
I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing
maiming
robbing
me or mine.

How? hitting them with your purse?

Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/
murderer/ gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade?

robber=bank or 7-11 store
rapist=local college girls dorm
murdere=where the person I want to murder is
gangbanger=local college girls dorm

In a country or state where you
KNOW no one
has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where
everyone
MAY have
such a weapon.

More likely, the country that you are in.

If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose.
One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front
door?


whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a
desirable theft item.



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hope you know more about puters than you do guns.

SV

If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in
that
they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned
when you leave. Seems to me the whole point would be to have them
around. If you can't have that, what's the point.

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"JR" wrote in message
...
I am a former police officer of a small Pennsylvania town.
I have an extensive collection of firearms, mostly handguns
with a few hunting rifles and shotguns.
If you want to break into my home and steal my guns
you will have to either break open my gunsafe or
carry the 1200 lb monster out my basement door.
There are few robberies here as most home owners
in this area do own firearms. There are a few burglaries
however, usually with the perps looking for cash or
electronics. More often than not any firearms
are locked up or well hidden.
I'm not WANTING to KILL anyone. I am WANTING
to STOP anyone trying to rob or hurt me or my
family. The thought of the perp being killed
is secondary to STOPPING them.
I do not have any firearms on my boat, but
would seriously consider it if I were to sail off shore.
I hope you know more about sailing than you do about
firearms and their use/abuse. Otherwise you are one
of the most dangerous persons on the water.
To yourself and others.
Respectfully and Sincerely,
JR

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"JR" wrote...
I wouldn't try to KILL them. I would STOP them from hurting killing
maiming
robbing
me or mine.

How? hitting them with your purse?

Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/
murderer/ gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade?

robber=bank or 7-11 store
rapist=local college girls dorm
murdere=where the person I want to murder is
gangbanger=local college girls dorm

In a country or state where you
KNOW no one
has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or state where
everyone
MAY have
such a weapon.

More likely, the country that you are in.

If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose.
One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the
front
door?


whichever one there is nobody home at. And no alarm system. Guns are a
desirable theft item.



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hope you know more about puters than you do guns.

SV

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:32:24 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in
that
they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned
when you leave.

Do you think they search your boat when you enter a foreign country?




Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

Do you think they don't? Perhaps you're just inexperienced
in such matters. In many foreign ports, you will be boarded
by the local authorities. They'll ask for a declaration of what
you've got. If you claim you don't have a gun, they decide
to search and find one, you could end up in a local prison.
If you declare it, it will be confiscated and maybe returned
when you leave (or maybe not, depending on the foreign
port). In either case, you'll not have any use of it.

But, feel free to take one along. Far be it from me to prevent
you from going to jail again.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:32:24 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

If you intend to visit foreign ports, the firearms will be a liability in
that
they will likely be confiscated when you arrive and possibly returned
when you leave.

Do you think they search your boat when you enter a foreign country?




Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 23:08:43 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Do you think they don't? Perhaps you're just inexperienced
in such matters. In many foreign ports, you will be boarded
by the local authorities. They'll ask for a declaration of what
you've got. If you claim you don't have a gun, they decide
to search and find one, you could end up in a local prison.
If you declare it, it will be confiscated and maybe returned
when you leave (or maybe not, depending on the foreign
port). In either case, you'll not have any use of it.

But, feel free to take one along. Far be it from me to prevent
you from going to jail again.

You ever been to a foreign country? I dint think so.




Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways.

On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 07:53:29 GMT, JR wrote:
snip.... Try to think of it this way. If you were a robber/rapist/
murderer/ gangbanger,
where would you most like to ply your trade? In a country or state where
you KNOW no one has a deadly weapon for self defense, or a country or
state where everyone MAY have such a weapon.

then try to think of it this way: If you were a lazy opportunist would
you take the trouble to investigate the laws and demographics of gun
control in order to situate yourself in a country such as you describe?
Doubtful, since hand to mouth is the more likely means by which armed
thugs operate..or seem to.

that said...the premise need only be tested by looking at the results;
A/ where is it safer, statisticly, to live Canada or USA?
B/ Are people flocking to canada to set up robbing raping shops?

you have unfortuately fallen for the oldets form of social
cohesiveness...find a common enemy,,,,and if one can't be found, make one
up and demonize ...then, arm yourself and generate an air of histeria. You
have the gun now you need a reason:, rapists and robbers to protect you
loved ones from, wild animals sailing trips....it gets pretty thin on
logic after a short time...and remeber, i am not apposed to guns per se.

If you were going to rob a home which one would you choose.
One with a Handgun Control poster or one with an NRA poster on the front
door?

Both, they are likely bluffs and even if not the one without the dog in
the backyard is statisticly the one chosen, AND, if i don't have a gun my
young male ego tells me i could take one from gramps and use it on
him....and that is the sad statistical truth in too many
instances...people kiled by their own guns becaue they are more civilised
than the guy taking it from them! you have to be armed 24hrs a day then
what are you protecting? not much of a life huh?

rick
I just don't buy the logic or ill-logic of it that's all.

A/ where is it safer, statisticly, to live Canada or USA?

more Canadians die of freezing, more Americans die of skin cancer.