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JAXAshby March 14th 04 05:33 PM

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http://www.deos.tudelft.nl/altim/gulfstream/

DSK March 14th 04 09:25 PM

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OzOne wrote:
A pitiful jumble when compared to the great Oz currents which we have
at our disposal
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsF...eac_scemlg.gif
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsFolder/eac/
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsF...leuwin/44.html


I like the curley-Q one headed for NZ from the lower Bass Strait.

Thanks for the links, it is very interesting reading. One of the clues
to global warming is the changes in ocean currents but so far I haven't
seen anything conclusive on this. The reversing of the Capes Current and
Leeuwin Current might be one place to spot this.

DSK


JAXAshby March 15th 04 01:19 AM

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yeah, BUT *our* Gulf Steam has kept Europe warm enough to inhabit for going on
10,000 years now. :-)

A pitiful jumble when compared to the great Oz currents which we have
at our disposal
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsF...eac_scemlg.gif
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsFolder/eac/
http://www.marine.csiro.au/LeafletsF...leuwin/44.html


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.









Horvath March 15th 04 02:38 AM

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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:19:10 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


And ours alows us to grow babanas in the middle of winter ;-)


Babanas?




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

DSK March 15th 04 12:37 PM

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OzOne wrote:
And ours alows us to grow babanas in the middle of winter ;-)


Babanas?


I picture the "babana" as tropical fruit similar to a banana, except
that it grows upside down...

DSK


Matt Colie March 15th 04 10:43 PM

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Wow,

I guess it isn't a "stream".

People though Chic Larken (The Navigator)was a little off in 1966 when
he suggested that we go a little farther east than the rhum line because
he had gotten data from a survey ship that indicated there might be a
northern meander that we could ride south. We set up a thermocouple
down one of the cockpit scuppers and checked the water temperature
regularly. When the temperature jumped up, he (Mr. Larken) started
navigating like a man possesed. There was the Consolan station on
Nantuket and some other good RDF on the coast farther south that he kept
crossing until he was sure we were in a southbound flow. We won.

Loran was available but not legal for racing at that time so few boat
carried the weight.

That was TV Learson's new CAl 40 "Thunderbird"

Matt Colie




JAXAshby wrote:
http://www.deos.tudelft.nl/altim/gulfstream/



Martin Baxter March 16th 04 12:17 PM

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Matt Colie wrote:
Wow, There was the Consolan station on
Nantuket and some other good RDF on the coast farther south that he kept
crossing until he was sure we were in a southbound flow.


You used RDF? Damn lucky you didn't fetch up on a granite ledge
off the coast of Maine!

Cheers
Marty


Matt Colie March 16th 04 01:49 PM

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Not much risk there that day. A days sail south of Newport, the ledges
are a long ways away. Real navigators from the end of WWII until
recently (in my terms) knew how to work radio. That is if it worked at
all, because until the transistor were available in the early sixties,
the reliability was not an issue, it was non-exsistent for small boats.

Those were more patient days. Down east required even more. To do
things like hang off until you could actually see the harbor entrance.

I still love telling people about the fog they grow there such that you
can still see the truck just fine, but not the bow and you may even see
masts around you - but no boats.

A friend and fellow sailor almost as long as I were laughing ourselves
silly because I much younger person came along and said something about
this friend's Garmin 45 because it was not nearly accurate enough for
him to trust to make hie slip. This started us into an evening of
seastories about being exactly where you though you were or no where
near at all.

Life was different then. The ledges were there, but the people that
ventured among them didn't expect others to take care of them. These
were the people that taught me, they are gone.

Matt Colie - see prior sig


Martin Baxter wrote:

Matt Colie wrote:

Wow, There was the Consolan station on Nantuket and some other good
RDF on the coast farther south that he kept crossing until he was sure
we were in a southbound flow.



You used RDF? Damn lucky you didn't fetch up on a granite ledge
off the coast of Maine!

Cheers
Marty



JAXAshby March 16th 04 01:58 PM

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Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.

Not much risk there that day. A days sail south of Newport, the ledges
are a long ways away. Real navigators from the end of WWII until
recently (in my terms) knew how to work radio. That is if it worked at
all, because until the transistor were available in the early sixties,
the reliability was not an issue, it was non-exsistent for small boats.

Those were more patient days. Down east required even more. To do
things like hang off until you could actually see the harbor entrance.

I still love telling people about the fog they grow there such that you
can still see the truck just fine, but not the bow and you may even see
masts around you - but no boats.

A friend and fellow sailor almost as long as I were laughing ourselves
silly because I much younger person came along and said something about
this friend's Garmin 45 because it was not nearly accurate enough for
him to trust to make hie slip. This started us into an evening of
seastories about being exactly where you though you were or no where
near at all.

Life was different then. The ledges were there, but the people that
ventured among them didn't expect others to take care of them. These
were the people that taught me, they are gone.

Matt Colie - see prior sig


Martin Baxter wrote:

Matt Colie wrote:

Wow, There was the Consolan station on Nantuket and some other good
RDF on the coast farther south that he kept crossing until he was sure
we were in a southbound flow.



You used RDF? Damn lucky you didn't fetch up on a granite ledge
off the coast of Maine!

Cheers
Marty











John Cairns March 16th 04 05:23 PM

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"JAXAshby" backpedaling furiously wrote
...
Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.


Not what you posted a month or so ago.

"mattie, squathead, you too are just too frikken stew ped (two words) to
catch
the irony of the statement made to Racko-Nos Pam. The waves off Glen Cove
would be hard pressed to go much above 3-1/3 feet (fetch is too little),
even
though the winds were 42 sustained, gusting to 50+."

The other thing.

"mattie dum-dum squathead, racko-nos was claiming to have a longer dick than
anyone here"

Wasn't claiming to have a bigger dick than anyone here, but, since we're on
the subject, I probably do have a bigger dick than you, but that isn't
saying much, I'm sure everyone here has a bigger dick than you.

You should see a doctor about the memory loss, it could be a symptom of a
more serious condition, OTOH, it's probably just a symptom of your advanced
age.
John Cairns



JAXAshby March 16th 04 05:25 PM

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hey johnny, what can I say. Maybe sometimes Matt is a bit better human being
being than you are, and other times he is a lot better human being than you
are.

Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.




John Cairns March 16th 04 10:56 PM

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"JAXAshby" with
the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able
to type out the following:

...
hey johnny, what can I say. Maybe sometimes Matt is a bit better human

being
being than you are, and other times he is a lot better human being than

you
are.

Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.


Funny, without delving into Matt's character, because I consider him a
friend and know him personally, having raced with him at Bay Week and the
Trans-Erie, I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of
judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally. What
you "can say", though I doubt that you will since you lack courage or
decency, is that you are wrong. Nothing new there.
John Cairns



JAXAshby March 17th 04 01:16 AM

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bye-bye, johnny. don't let the door hit you on the ...

hey johnny, what can I say. Maybe sometimes Matt is a bit better human

being
being than you are, and other times he is a lot better human being than

you
are.

Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.


Funny, without delving into Matt's character, because I consider him a
friend and know him personally, having raced with him at Bay Week and the
Trans-Erie, I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of
judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally. What
you "can say", though I doubt that you will since you lack courage or
decency, is that you are wrong. Nothing new there.
John Cairns











JAXAshby March 17th 04 01:25 AM

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I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of
judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally.

John Cairns


johnny, you gave the answer yourself.

I am Mensa and you are not.

I pay attention to what is going on around and you do not.

I can see relationships between that data and you can not.

You are Forrest Gump and I am not.



Shen44 March 17th 04 02:10 AM

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I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of

judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally.

John Cairns


johnny, you gave the answer yourself.

I am Mensa and you are not.


If Jax is considered Mensa qualified, they must have lowered their requirement,
considerably.


I pay attention to what is going on around and you do not.


Now you need to learn to understand and make use of that information.


I can see relationships between that data and you can not.


see above


You are Forrest Gump and I am no


That's true. Ole Forrest Gump had more common sense and basic ability to use
the information his limited resources gave him, in the tip of his "pinky", than
you will ever be able to muster, no matter how hard you try.

Shen



John Cairns March 17th 04 02:25 AM

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"JAXAshby" his head reeling at the effort of a sharp
retort, scribbled furiously
...
bye-bye, johnny. don't let the door hit you on the ...

hey johnny, what can I say. Maybe sometimes Matt is a bit better human

being
being than you are, and other times he is a lot better human being than

you
are.

Matt, you sound like a sailor people are glad to know. Good on ya.


Funny, without delving into Matt's character, because I consider him a
friend and know him personally, having raced with him at Bay Week and the
Trans-Erie, I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of
judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally. What
you "can say", though I doubt that you will since you lack courage or
decency, is that you are wrong. Nothing new there.
John Cairns


C'mon, you have to put at least a little effort into it. Were you, or were
you not wrong?
Are you, are you not, a coward?
John Cairns



John Cairns March 17th 04 02:38 AM

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"JAXAshby" searching fruitlessly for a clever literary
reference, barfed out these words
...
I'm wondering how YOU, mensa-man, can make that kind of

judgement, not knowing him and NEVER having spoke to him personally.

John Cairns


johnny, you gave the answer yourself.

I am Mensa and you are not.

I pay attention to what is going on around and you do not.

I can see relationships between that data and you can not.

You are Forrest Gump and I am not.


Might be somewhat impressed if you could come up with an obscure literary
reference or even an obscure cinematic reference, but Forrest Gump!?! Hint!
Consider finding a source other than Bobsprit for movie reviews. I don't
know how to break the news to you, but Forrest Gump is a _fictional_
character. If you like, they based the movie on an absolute piece of
literary dreck, we'll take up a collection so that you can "read" the book
on tape. I'm getting the strong impression that you have difficulty
stringing together more than one sentence at a time, but keep at it, given
enough time you may come up with some coherent thoughts and share them with
us.
John Cairns



DSK March 17th 04 02:44 AM

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John Cairns wrote:

Might be somewhat impressed if you could come up with an obscure literary
reference or even an obscure cinematic reference, but Forrest Gump!?! Hint!
Consider finding a source other than Bobsprit for movie reviews.


There's a hint here, too, John.

DSK


John Cairns March 17th 04 03:22 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
John Cairns wrote:

Might be somewhat impressed if you could come up with an obscure

literary
reference or even an obscure cinematic reference, but Forrest Gump!?!

Hint!
Consider finding a source other than Bobsprit for movie reviews.


There's a hint here, too, John.

DSK


Yeah, I've considered that from time to time. Matching wits(somewhat of a
stretch, I admit) with Bob n Jax has always been fun, but it's a guilty
pleasure somewhat akin to watching "The Three Stooges".
John Cairns



katysails March 17th 04 03:45 AM

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John admitted:=20
but it's a guilty
pleasure somewhat akin to watching "The Three Stooges".

More like "Dumb and Dumber".
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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