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Jeff asked: As in "some people believe in evolution and others believe in creationism"?
katysails wrote: Yes, and that some believe that creationism does not exclude evolutionism. Sure, it would have been easy for God to have created the world so that evolution is a valid scientific principle... maybe that means 'creationism' is a trap for people whose faith is not strong enough... DSK |
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message ... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message As in "some people believe in evolution and others believe in creationism"? What do *you* believe, Jeff? I believe that if there is a god, he wouldn't want us to be stupid. A god that could create our world by tossing out a "big bang" would be very impressive. The god described in Genesis is a cute metaphor for children and very simple people. Not that I don't like Genesis - Its by far my favorite piece of literature - but to teach it as literal truth to anyone older than 6 years is abuse. You might be right. However, when people suggest that we have managed to evolve over a period of 600,000 years, then I just laugh. Regards Donal -- |
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Dave tries to explain his position:=20
How many legs does a pig have if you call its tail a leg? Doesn't matter what you call the tail, or the leg, as long as it isn't = crude or rude... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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200,000 years ago is the current guess. That's when a couple hundred women
walked out of sub-Saharan Africa to populate the world. when people suggest that we have managed to evolve over a period of 600,000 years, then I just laugh. Regards Donal -- |
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yeah. three.
That's when a couple hundred women walked out of sub-Saharan Africa to populate the world. There must have been a few smiling guys who went with them. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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No, this isn't satire. This is obnoxious language. Obviously, one
of your strong points. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:12:00 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: It sure doesn't. Quite offensive, and a stupid thing to say. Talk about not recognizing satire if it bit you in the ass.... Ah, but I forget. That's not one of your strong points. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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You are truly an idiot and a racist (apparently). You seem to think
that calling someone an African American vs. a ****** somehow obsolves you from the thought that went behind calling the person a ****** in the first place. No intelligent person would ever call someone a ******, unless you were living in the 1800s or earlier. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:33:00 -0500, "katysails" said: Doesn't matter what you call the tail, or the leg, as long as it isn't crude or rude... curmudgeonly discourse Du'n matter what I call it even if somebody does thinks it's crude or rude. It's still the same old tail. Having spent 50 years hearing that one must say Negro, not ******, one must say black, not Negro, one must say African-American, not black, one must say afro-American, not African-American, one may say ******, but only if he is African-American etc., etc. I can only laugh when I hear someone making much of such nonsense. The only thing "correcting" such words does is to label the person doing the tut-tutting as either a self-righteous fool, or someone with an irrepressible need to push his own agenda. An yes, I did deliberately commit the horrible offense of using "his" to mean "his or her," "his/her" or whatever flag-waving combination of words is current. /curmudgeonly discourse Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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You might qualify for the sword through the neck trick with this statement.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message . .. Jeff asked: As in "some people believe in evolution and others believe in creationism"? katysails wrote: Yes, and that some believe that creationism does not exclude evolutionism. Sure, it would have been easy for God to have created the world so that evolution is a valid scientific principle... maybe that means 'creationism' is a trap for people whose faith is not strong enough... DSK |
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Dave stated: someone
with an irrepressible need to push his own agenda. It isn't an irrepresible need to push my agenda at all...I'm an HTR = generalist and I work in a field where there is a lot of dicersity. = Using derogatory terms that exist because of hatred spurns on that = hatred. Why not just try t think of everyone as being a human being? = Why label someone with a negative slang expression? Why demean yourself = by demeaning others? --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Well, at least it's clear that you *are* a racist. Racist remarks are
not funny, with the possible exception of Lenny Bruce. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:51:35 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: You seem to think that calling someone an African American vs. a ****** somehow obsolves you from the thought that went behind calling the person a ****** in the first place. On the contrary. I find the whole charade of trotting out the buzzword du jour hilarious. Unfortunately Lincoln's humor is too seldom appreciated. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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On 16 Mar 2004 10:34:14 -0600, Dave wrote:
I think they call it "Wordwrap" On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 19:57:49 -0500, "katysails" said: And hasn't anyone come up with a cure for dicersity yet? Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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In article , katysails
wrote: Jeff asked: -- You're not serious, are you? He teaches what's in the textbooks, which mentions both...and yes, he teaches in public school. The books state that "some people believe..." And it is not child abuse. Some people believe that the world is flat, too. That makes them examples of what happens when you allow fixed ideas to override the world as it is. Might not be child abuse but stupidity is *always* a capital offense sooner or later. Peter Wiley |
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:11:28 +1100, Peter Wiley
wrote this crap: Some people believe that the world is flat, too. The world IS flat. I've been to the edge, and I can give you the GPS coordinates. I've been to the places where it says. "Here be monsters." Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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Which stupid race is that?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:11:33 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: Well, at least it's clear that you *are* a racist. Racist remarks are not funny, with the possible exception of Lenny Bruce. I will admit that I generally detest the stupid race (though I'll occasionally make exceptions). You may or may not take that as a personal insult, depending on your own inclinations. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Did you bring your tits?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:11:28 +1100, Peter Wiley wrote this crap: Some people believe that the world is flat, too. The world IS flat. I've been to the edge, and I can give you the GPS coordinates. I've been to the places where it says. "Here be monsters." Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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"Horvath" gets introspective ...
The world IS flat. I've been to the edge, and I can give you the GPS coordinates. I've been to the places where it says. "Here be monsters." |
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Scott Vernon wrote:
Can you find it with RDF? Yes, but if you do you'll run aground on a granite ledge! Cheers Marty |
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OH NO!!!!! Turn BACK!! TURN Back!!!!!!!!!
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: Can you find it with RDF? Yes, but if you do you'll run aground on a granite ledge! Cheers Marty |
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So, what you're saying is that there are some races that are more "stupid"
than others. In other words, there are some races that are inferior to others. Such as the black race being less sophisticated than say the asian race? Or, that the jews are smarter than christians? I just want to be sure I have it right what you're saying. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:14:09 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: Which stupid race is that? It's like Justice Douglas's definition of pornography--I know it when I see it. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Right. But that's not what he's talking about. He saying that
a particular "race" is less intelligent than another. Race has nothing to do with education, worldliness, or nutrition. It has to do with skin color and other genetic factors that make up one's physiology. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "OzOne" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:03:05 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" scribbled thusly: So, what you're saying is that there are some races that are more "stupid" than others. In other words, there are some races that are inferior to others. This one get tricky Jon. Some races have a far far higher percentage of uneducated, unworldly people than others. This in fact makes them inferior...look at your average American. Unfortunately some other races have the disadvantage of being under nourished as well. Something that has been shown to reduce mental capacity as well as physical. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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OZ surmised: Unfortunately some other races have the disadvantage of =
being under nourished as well. Something that has been shown to reduce mental capacity as well as physical. Which explains the American dilemma over the past 20 years..a nation = nourished on Mc Donald's is bound to go into a decline. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I would rather be dense than a racist. You win on that score.
You're the one who said a particular race was stupid. I asked which race, but you have yet to answer. No need. We all got the message. You can dance all you want, but that won't make you Fred Astaire. It's pretty obvious what you are, and there's definitely no need to explain that twice. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:52:34 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: Right. But that's not what he's talking about. He saying that a particular "race" is less intelligent than another. Race has nothing to do with education, worldliness, or nutrition. It has to do with skin color and other genetic factors that make up one's physiology. You truly are dense, aren't you Jonathan. I'm taking a group of people who share a single characteristic--stupidity--without regard to skin color or any other genetic factors, and labeling that group of people as the "stupid" race. Surely someone so enlightened as you believe yourself to be would argue that 1. any classification into races is arbitrary and 2. any one individual historically labeled as a member of a particular race is likely to have more characteristics in common with an arbitrarily selected member of a group historically labeled a member of another race than he is with an arbitrarily selected member of the group historically labeled as members of his own race. If you accept that argument, then identifying a group of people as belonging to the "stupid" race is as valid as any other classification. I don't expect you'll follow this, but most folks will, so please don't ask me to explain it to you further. I suspect a goodly number followed it the first time around. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Or, if people like you have their way, call them names and drag them
behind a pickup. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:39:45 -0500, "katysails" said: a nation nourished on Mc Donald's is bound to go into a decline. Ah, but we have the standard all-American remedy that rights all that's wrong with the world--sue 'em. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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American remedy that rights all that's
wrong with the world--sue 'em. Litigation...the lawyer's friend.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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It doesn't really matter, claiming that any race is stupid its racist.
Unless, of course, you're claiming that all races are equally stupid, except that you said "THE stupid race." Or, I suppose its not so bad to claim your own race is stupid - that makes you a "self-hater" or a comedian. "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:57:19 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: I would rather be dense than a racist. You win on that score. You're the one who said a particular race was stupid. Obviously, your preference was realized. I would, however, appreciate some identification of the message in which you think I said a particular race was stupid. Gonna pull a Wesley Clark and say it was Washington rumor, or can you back up that absurd fairy tale? Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Here you go:
Path: sn-us!sn-xit-05!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!cyclone.bc.net!new shu b.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsfeed3.easyne ws.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynew s!newscene!novia!novia!seq uencer.newscene.com!not-for-mail From: Dave Newsgroups: alt.sailing.asa Subject: So long, Folks! Date: 16 Mar 2004 17:16:09 -0600 Organization: Yes Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.640 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: sn-us alt.sailing.asa:293865 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 09:11:33 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: Well, at least it's clear that you *are* a racist. Racist remarks are not funny, with the possible exception of Lenny Bruce. I will admit that I generally detest the stupid race (though I'll occasionally make exceptions). You may or may not take that as a personal insult, depending on your own inclinations. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:57:19 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: I would rather be dense than a racist. You win on that score. You're the one who said a particular race was stupid. Obviously, your preference was realized. I would, however, appreciate some identification of the message in which you think I said a particular race was stupid. Gonna pull a Wesley Clark and say it was Washington rumor, or can you back up that absurd fairy tale? Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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So, now that I've posted your original message, please tell us which race
you consider to be the stupid race. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:57:19 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: I would rather be dense than a racist. You win on that score. You're the one who said a particular race was stupid. Obviously, your preference was realized. I would, however, appreciate some identification of the message in which you think I said a particular race was stupid. Gonna pull a Wesley Clark and say it was Washington rumor, or can you back up that absurd fairy tale? Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Frankly, since your "stupid race" comment was in defense of your rather
offensive racist language, I didn't bother to put too much effort into understanding it. I'm sure Horvath and a few of the other bottom feeders appreciate your thoughts. "Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:02:13 -0500, "Jeff Morris" said: It doesn't really matter, claiming that any race is stupid its racist. Unless, of course, you're claiming that all races are equally stupid, except that you said "THE stupid race." Or, I suppose its not so bad to claim your own race is stupid - that makes you a "self-hater" or a comedian. I didn't really expect Jonathan to follow what I said the first time, but I expected you would, Jeff, particularly after I explained it in terms Jonathan should have been able to understand. The exact quote was: "I will admit that I generally detest the stupid race (though I'll occasionally make exceptions)." The phrase "the stupid race" clearly was intended to denote that set of people who, regardless of skin color or other characteristics, share a single common trait--stupidity. Example: "We frequently put people in arbitrary categories based on some perceived similarities: the black race, the white race, the oriental race the stupid race, etc." Step back for a moment from your preconceptions, prejudices and predilections and see if that doesn't make sense in context. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Of course it was. Dave is just trying to backpeddle enough to
get off the hook from being a racist asshole. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... Frankly, since your "stupid race" comment was in defense of your rather offensive racist language, I didn't bother to put too much effort into understanding it. I'm sure Horvath and a few of the other bottom feeders appreciate your thoughts. "Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 12:02:13 -0500, "Jeff Morris" said: It doesn't really matter, claiming that any race is stupid its racist. Unless, of course, you're claiming that all races are equally stupid, except that you said "THE stupid race." Or, I suppose its not so bad to claim your own race is stupid - that makes you a "self-hater" or a comedian. I didn't really expect Jonathan to follow what I said the first time, but I expected you would, Jeff, particularly after I explained it in terms Jonathan should have been able to understand. The exact quote was: "I will admit that I generally detest the stupid race (though I'll occasionally make exceptions)." The phrase "the stupid race" clearly was intended to denote that set of people who, regardless of skin color or other characteristics, share a single common trait--stupidity. Example: "We frequently put people in arbitrary categories based on some perceived similarities: the black race, the white race, the oriental race the stupid race, etc." Step back for a moment from your preconceptions, prejudices and predilections and see if that doesn't make sense in context. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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So, backpeddle all you want, but the fact remains that you're the
racist. Nothing you have said so far would indicate differently. Does this go along with being a republican or is it just your predeliction? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:03:30 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz" said: So, now that I've posted your original message, please tell us which race you consider to be the stupid race. Strange. You seem to be one of the few who can't comprehend the answer even after a full explanation. That's a pretty good identifier of at least one member of the set. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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"OzOne" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:39:45 -0500, "katysails" scribbled thusly: OZ surmised: Unfortunately some other races have the disadvantage of being under nourished as well. Something that has been shown to reduce mental capacity as well as physical. Which explains the American dilemma over the past 20 years..a nation nourished on Mc Donald's is bound to go into a decline. I gather GWB lives on McD's.. WMcD's!!!! Regards Donal -- |
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Jon, why are you trying to make sense of a convoluted conversation =
staged by a lawyer? Lawyers don't major in law, they major in = semantics. The way he phrased the question, you'll never get him to = admit he said what you think he said. What he really said was nothing, = because you can't attribute the subject to anything specific. --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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OZ remarked: Ahhh thank God for my word wrap option :-)
I didn't realize you hung on my every word so..... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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OZ said: It's just that my scroll button was wearing out till I turned =
on the wrap. I guess I'll just enver know since when my own stuff comes back to = Outlook it looks fine.... --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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I thought he already said it. Besides, he's not the only one on the web with
a JD. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... Jon, why are you trying to make sense of a convoluted conversation staged by a lawyer? Lawyers don't major in law, they major in semantics. The way he phrased the question, you'll never get him to admit he said what you think he said. What he really said was nothing, because you can't attribute the subject to anything specific. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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We all do darlin...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katysails" wrote in message ... OZ remarked: Ahhh thank God for my word wrap option :-) I didn't realize you hung on my every word so..... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Also, Dave's an idiot.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 20:11:51 -0500, "katysails" said: Jon, why are you trying to make sense of a convoluted conversation staged by a lawyer? Dunno. Scotty didn't have any trouble following it. But I don't think he needed the explanation. Dave S/V Good Fortune CS27 |
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Jon fibbed:=20
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