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This new guy said: one of the brokers I spoke=20
with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the=20
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years.


Number 1, stop listening to brokers. There are only a very few honest =
brokers out there...the rest are tantamount to used car salesmen ir =
Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen. Number 2, who cares how often the boat =
was taken out per year? The important thing is: as the boat well =
maintained and will it go through a sound survey? Number 3, stop =
looking at sailboats as investments. For the average sailor, they are a =
hobby...something nice and fun to do when you're not working or putting =
a new roof on your house. When you do get a boat, sail it as much as =
you personally can, and then when you move up or away or whatever, hope =
that the new owner finds as much enjoyment and pleasure in it as you =
did. =20

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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:02:33 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

This new guy said: one of the brokers I spoke
with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years.


Number 1, stop listening to brokers. There are only a very few honest brokers out there...the rest are tantamount to used car salesmen ir Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen. Number 2, who cares how often the boat was taken out per year? The important thing is: as the boat well maintained and will it go through a sound survey? Number 3, stop looking at sailboats as investments. For the average sailor, they are a hobby...something nice and fun to do when you're not working or putting a new roof on your house. When you do get a boat, sail it as much as you personally can, and then when you move up or away or whatever, hope that the new owner finds as much enjoyment and pleasure in it as you did.


Hey New Guy! Don't listen to some dumbass who can't set word-wrap.




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Yeah, instead listen to an idiot guy with tits.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:02:33 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

This new guy said: one of the brokers I spoke
with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years.


Number 1, stop listening to brokers. There are only a very few honest

brokers out there...the rest are tantamount to used car salesmen ir Kirby
vacuum cleaner salesmen. Number 2, who cares how often the boat was taken
out per year? The important thing is: as the boat well maintained and will
it go through a sound survey? Number 3, stop looking at sailboats as
investments. For the average sailor, they are a hobby...something nice and
fun to do when you're not working or putting a new roof on your house. When
you do get a boat, sail it as much as you personally can, and then when you
move up or away or whatever, hope that the new owner finds as much enjoyment
and pleasure in it as you did.

Hey New Guy! Don't listen to some dumbass who can't set word-wrap.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe



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The buzi wrote:Hey New Guy! Don't listen to some dumbass who can't set =
word-wrap.

Hey, buzi! Get a life! =20


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Jim Cate
 
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This old guy wrote:

katysails wrote:
This new guy said: one of the brokers I spoke

with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years.



Number 1, stop listening to brokers. There are only a very few honest brokers out there...the rest are tantamount to used car salesmen ir Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen. Number 2, who cares how often the boat was taken out per year? The important thing is: as the boat well maintained and will it go through a sound survey? Number 3, stop looking at sailboats as investments. For the average sailor, they are a hobby...something nice and fun to do when you're not working or putting a new roof on your hou

se. When you do get a boat, sail it as much as you personally can, and then when you move up or away or whatever, hope that the new owner finds as much enjoyment and pleasure in it as you did.


Hey old guy. - Do you know the meaning of the term: "for example"? My
observation that the boats in our area are seldom taken sailed was based
on discussions with various boat owners and from observations of the
small number of boats that are sailing in the bay here, even on weekends
and in good weather, compared with the thousands of boats sitting in
their slips. The reference to the discussion with this particular broker
was intended only as an example of what I was talking about.

The point is that if nearly all owners of such boats find that they
don't continue to sail their boats as often as they thought when they
bought them, and if, in fact, they are only able to get out very
infrequently, perhaps I should take this into consider as ONE FACTOR,
among OTHERS, when looking at boats.

Like, how often have you had your boat out in the last six months old
guy?

Jim



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That is my 2 cents.

Lonny


Good points, all. As we've move up in boat size, we've found it more reasonable
to make time for those extra overnight and weekend trips. Even with my wife
pregnant, we have some nice little trips planned. With a smaller, less
comfortable boat, it would be less of an option. With the 36 footer I expect
we'll be aboard much more than than the 3 days per week we average now. I do
tend to agree that REALLY big boats, over 40 feet and more, will get used less,
since more people are generally required to sail them.

RB

RB
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Hey old guy. - Do you know the meaning of the term: "for example"?

Jim, there's no reason to attach an adversarial element to every discussion. He
was just making some points....most quite valid.


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Hey dufus, the post was from Katy.


SV

"Bobsprit" wrote

He was just making some points....


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hey 'new guy', why would you call Katy an 'old guy'?

SV

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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This old guy wrote:

katysails wrote:
This new guy said: one of the brokers I spoke

with last week bragged that the owner of that boat had only taken the
boat out some 10-12 times in the past ten years.



Number 1, stop listening to brokers. There are only a very few honest

brokers out there...the rest are tantamount to used car salesmen ir Kirby
vacuum cleaner salesmen. Number 2, who cares how often the boat was taken
out per year? The important thing is: as the boat well maintained and will
it go through a sound survey? Number 3, stop looking at sailboats as
investments. For the average sailor, they are a hobby...something nice and
fun to do when you're not working or putting a new roof on your hou
se. When you do get a boat, sail it as much as you personally can, and

then when you move up or away or whatever, hope that the new owner finds as
much enjoyment and pleasure in it as you did.


Hey old guy. - Do you know the meaning of the term: "for example"? My
observation that the boats in our area are seldom taken sailed was based
on discussions with various boat owners and from observations of the
small number of boats that are sailing in the bay here, even on weekends
and in good weather, compared with the thousands of boats sitting in
their slips. The reference to the discussion with this particular broker
was intended only as an example of what I was talking about.

The point is that if nearly all owners of such boats find that they
don't continue to sail their boats as often as they thought when they
bought them, and if, in fact, they are only able to get out very
infrequently, perhaps I should take this into consider as ONE FACTOR,
among OTHERS, when looking at boats.

Like, how often have you had your boat out in the last six months old
guy?

Jim


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katysails
 
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Scotty asked: hey 'new guy', why would you call Katy an 'old guy'?

Scotty...it's pretty eveidnet that I am one of the old "guys"...I don't =
think he meant it as a gender specific term....


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