"katysails" wrote in message

Actually, the Gaelic name is Padraic....

Are you sure that's Gaelic? I thought it was old Irish, and the Gaelic name
was unpronounceable.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Actually, the Gaelic name is Padraic....

Are you sure that's Gaelic? I thought it was old Irish, and the Gaelic
name was unpronounceable.

They speak Gaelic up here... lots of Gaelic in Cape Breton. Some great music
as well!

CM

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:16:03 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


People from Rome did not speak Latin. Latin was a formal language used to
write and to deliver speech.

They wrote and spoke Latin.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:25:07 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his father,
a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was Irish?


And Doofus is an Irish name.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:50:53 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:


You should read some history books of the British Isles. Only
Roman citizens could hold office in the British Isles when
the Roman Empire held sway.

But, we are getting off the subject which subject is St. Patrick
was Scottish, not Irish. He was born in Scotland.


He was Roman. You've already said so.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

that's what it pronounces out to....in actuality there's always a bunch of
unpronounceable consonants thrown in...the spelling of my given name and
its' pronunciation is beyond the human tongue, which lends credence to the
fact that fey creatures invented it...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Actually, the Gaelic name is Padraic....

Are you sure that's Gaelic? I thought it was old Irish, and the Gaelic
name was unpronounceable.

Max

No..they didn't...it was called vulgaris...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:16:03 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


People from Rome did not speak Latin. Latin was a formal language used to
write and to deliver speech.

They wrote and spoke Latin.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I doubt that many Jews made it that far, but despite their various
setbacks, Jews did achieve some status in Roman times. In 211
Caracalla become Emperor and made all free Jews citizens. In fact,
this citizenship was granted to all free inhabitants of the Empire, so
it would have included the Britons, and thus to St. Patrick's family.

Of course, things started to go downhill for the Jews 100 years later
with Constantine.

I thought you had a classical education, Neal. It would appear not.

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Sorry, Jeff, but Jews in the British Isles were considered persona non
grata
in Roman times. Do some reading, please.

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Being a Roman citizen didn't mean you hailed from Rome. Even the Jews
were considered Roman citizens, though not by Patrick's time.

Capt. Neal® wrote:


You should read some history books of the British Isles. Only
Roman citizens could hold office in the British Isles when
the Roman Empire held sway.

But, we are getting off the subject which subject is St. Patrick
was Scottish, not Irish. He was born in Scotland.

CN

There is one very good one
"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's
family was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle
class or higher. The fact that his father was a local official and
they had Latin names means little.

Capt. Neal® wrote:



Educate yourself. You know about as little about St. Patrick as
you know about boats which means you know nothing about either.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11554a.htm

CN

"Jeff" wrote in message
...

Do you think that Patrick, writing in Latin and describing his
father, a local functionary for Rome, might have use his father's
Roman name?

And isn't Patrick an Irish name? Does that prove St. Patrick was
Irish?


Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:53:42 -0500, Jeff
wrote this crap:


Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:26:01 -0800, (Thom
Stewart)
wrote this crap:



Horass,

St Pat was Irish; Arnold is governor of Calif and an American.
The
places of birth they had nothing to do with how they use
their lifes.
Their choice is, and St Pat choose to be Irish.





He was never Irish. He was Roman.




Nope, he wasn't Roman. Try again.






Nope. Roman. His parents were Conchessa and Calpurnius. Those are
very Roman names. Look it up.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jeff wrote:
Sorry Neal, there is no complelling evidence that St. Patrick's family
was actually from Rome, though they were certainly middle class or
higher. The fact that his father was a local official and they had
Latin names means little.


True... being a "local official" in the Roman administration of Britain
would mean that he was a military officer, which would mean that he was
an ass-kicker who acquired some education & management skills. Could
have been from anywhere, and adopted a Roman name.

Of course, it doesn't prove that St Patrick's family was *not* Roman,
either.

DSK

Actually, the Gaelic name is Padraic....

Are you sure that's Gaelic? I thought it was old Irish, and the Gaelic
name was unpronounceable.


It's just spelled really weird... should be a couple of "G"s and "H"s in
there.

katysails wrote:
that's what it pronounces out to....in actuality there's always a bunch of
unpronounceable consonants thrown in...the spelling of my given name and
its' pronunciation is beyond the human tongue, which lends credence to the
fact that fey creatures invented it...

Nah, you have to drink enough potato whiskey to numb your mouth first.

DSK