"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious
reasons.

BB

You better explain why this is, I don't think "jim" understands the concept
of waves and where they might end up.

This is one of those lessons that has to be learned the hard way. It seems so
easy to understand that forward hatches must be kept shut, but it only really
sinks in after you see 6 inches of water on top of the bunk you have to sleep in
that night.

Last summer we had serious green water all the way to the dodger for the first
time. Fortunately I anticipated it - we were exiting the Cape Cod Canal on a 5
knot current against a 20 knot breeze - and was able to convince my wife that
*all* hatches must be sealed. We rode up and over the first two big square
waves (about 5-6 footers) but dove through the 8 footer before being squirted
out into Cape Cod Bay. My wife was in the cabin below and freaked when she saw
6 inches of water over her head!

I've wondered how a mac would handle this. With a good hand on the wheel, it
should be able to blast through; but get twisted a bit in the first wave ...

Jeff Morris wrote:

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious

reasons.

BB

You better explain why this is, I don't think "jim" understands the concept
of waves and where they might end up.


This is one of those lessons that has to be learned the hard way. It seems so
easy to understand that forward hatches must be kept shut, but it only really
sinks in after you see 6 inches of water on top of the bunk you have to sleep in
that night.

Last summer we had serious green water all the way to the dodger for the first
time. Fortunately I anticipated it - we were exiting the Cape Cod Canal on a 5
knot current against a 20 knot breeze - and was able to convince my wife that
*all* hatches must be sealed. We rode up and over the first two big square
waves (about 5-6 footers) but dove through the 8 footer before being squirted
out into Cape Cod Bay. My wife was in the cabin below and freaked when she saw
6 inches of water over her head!

I've wondered how a mac would handle this. With a good hand on the wheel, it
should be able to blast through; but get twisted a bit in the first wave ...



If you consider that the Mac is much lighter, with much smaller sails,
it's likely that it may ride over some waves that your boat may try to
"bore through." Not in great comfort, admittedly.

Jim

You are so stupid that it's beyond belief.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jeff Morris wrote:

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious

reasons.

BB

You better explain why this is, I don't think "jim" understands the
concept
of waves and where they might end up.


This is one of those lessons that has to be learned the hard way. It
seems so
easy to understand that forward hatches must be kept shut, but it only
really
sinks in after you see 6 inches of water on top of the bunk you have to
sleep in
that night.

Last summer we had serious green water all the way to the dodger for the
first
time. Fortunately I anticipated it - we were exiting the Cape Cod Canal
on a 5
knot current against a 20 knot breeze - and was able to convince my wife
that
*all* hatches must be sealed. We rode up and over the first two big
square
waves (about 5-6 footers) but dove through the 8 footer before being
squirted
out into Cape Cod Bay. My wife was in the cabin below and freaked when
she saw
6 inches of water over her head!

I've wondered how a mac would handle this. With a good hand on the
wheel, it
should be able to blast through; but get twisted a bit in the first wave
....



If you consider that the Mac is much lighter, with much smaller sails,
it's likely that it may ride over some waves that your boat may try to
"bore through." Not in great comfort, admittedly.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You are so stupid that it's beyond belief.

How can you possibly believe that, or post such a remark on this ng?
What, in particular, have I posted that would suggest that I'm stupid
beyond believe.

BE SPECIFIC FOR A CHANGE, ASSHOLE.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote ...


What, in particular, have I posted that would suggest that I'm stupid
beyond believe.

BE SPECIFIC FOR A CHANGE,

ASSHOLE.


You wrote you were buying a Mac26Mx, DUH!

nice sig. BTW.

SV

Jim Cate wrote:

In particular, I would suggest that I'm stupid beyond believe.

By going on and on about a piece of junk, which you bought and
now are trying to justify.

GIVE US A GOOD REASON MACBOY.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You are so stupid that it's beyond belief.

How can you possibly believe that, or post such a remark on this ng?
What, in particular, have I posted that would suggest that I'm stupid
beyond believe.

BE SPECIFIC FOR A CHANGE, ASSHOLE.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

If you consider that the Mac is much lighter, with much smaller sails,
it's likely that it may ride over some waves that your boat may try to
"bore through." Not in great comfort, admittedly.



You're missing the point, Jim. My boat is extremely light for its size -
lighter than the mac in some ways (50% more length, more than twice the beam,
but a weight of only 8800 lbs). Diving through waves is more a function of the
wave shape - in strong current against strong wind situations the wave length
gets compressed, the heights grow, and the wave face appears "vertical."
Inevitably, you surf down one and slam into the base of the next faster than you
can rise up over them. There is also risk to going over the top, since at best,
you will pound hard on the other side, but at worst, you can get twisted
sideways and roll over.

Jeff Morris wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

If you consider that the Mac is much lighter, with much smaller sails,
it's likely that it may ride over some waves that your boat may try to
"bore through." Not in great comfort, admittedly.




You're missing the point, Jim. My boat is extremely light for its size -
lighter than the mac in some ways (50% more length, more than twice the beam,
but a weight of only 8800 lbs). Diving through waves is more a function of the
wave shape - in strong current against strong wind situations the wave length
gets compressed, the heights grow, and the wave face appears "vertical."
Inevitably, you surf down one and slam into the base of the next faster than you
can rise up over them. There is also risk to going over the top, since at best,
you will pound hard on the other side, but at worst, you can get twisted
sideways and roll over.

OK. I didn't know what boat you had. Obviously, I'll want to respect
the limiations of the 26-foot boat.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote ...

Obviously, I'll want to respect
the limiations of the 26 M and never leave the dock.

Jim