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which was the predecessor to the older water ballast 26, has left many a
more expensive & prestigious yacht in it's wake.

Meaning what exactly? A Mac 25 will outrun a Dana 24 as well.
I guess you'd call the Mac a "better" boat.

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which was the predecessor to the older water ballast 26, has left many a
more expensive & prestigious yacht in it's wake.


Bobsprit wrote:
Meaning what exactly? A Mac 25 will outrun a Dana 24 as well.
I guess you'd call the Mac a "better" boat.


For some purposes, it is definitely a better boat. For others, it may not
be. You got a problem with that?

Is the Mac25 a better boat than a C&C 32 that never sails and has a host of
long term structural problems?

Maybe you should argue about it with Marc and BittyBill. Jax could referee
it.

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Is the Mac25 a better boat than a C&C 32 that never sails and has a host of
long term structural problems?


Yes it would be. But I know of no C&C 32s or any C&Cs in my area with problems
you list.
Can't you manage to stay on topic without belittling yourself with tired
trolls? I don't like the Mac26 or any Macs for that matter. I have been aboard
the old macs and found them horribly cheap. The new X and M are simply awful.
It's my opinion, based on watching them sail and being aboard several. If they
sailed well (we all agree they DON'T) it would be another matter.
This is a sailing group, Doug. You directed a large portion of your time to a
powerboat, which in part explains your easy acceptance of a 26M. But I like
sailboats that sail well, that look nice, and that haven't been built to the
lowest price point available. I won't defend a Mac anymore than I'd defend a
boat with bad decks. I'll leave that to you and Scotty. It's sooooo easy to go
the "they're okay for some people" route. Show a little backbone and let's have
YOUR opinion. I seem to recall that you claimed you'd NEVER buy the Hunter 19
again after you discovered the weaknesses and quality. But they're "okay for
some people?" Or are they just crappy boats?

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Bobsprit wrote:

.... I seem to recall that you claimed you'd NEVER buy the Hunter 19
again after you discovered the weaknesses and quality.


I never said that. Go ahead and google up what I actually did say, it should
provide some entertainment (which is what you're really after). Your memory is as
bad as everything else about you.

Bobsprit wrote:

.... But I like
sailboats that sail well, that look nice, and that haven't been built to the
lowest price point available.


Yeah right. That's why 1- you never go sailing
2- you are proud of th many ugly excresences, such as the stern ladder, mounted on
the boat you claim to own
3- you are often bragging about how little you paid for the boat you claim to own.

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Yeah right. That's why 1- you never go sailing

A simple troll. Bye, bye, Doug.
You've really fallen far.

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Your memory is as
bad as everything else about you.

With this type of childish discourse, there's little value in attempting to
engage you in a real discussion.
You DID say you wouldn't have done it again AFTER you found build problems.

Bye, bye, Doug.

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You DID say you wouldn't have done it again AFTER you found build problems.


No, Bubbles, I never said any such thing.

Here is a reprise of what I *did* say: that Hunter has poor QA, and that I'd
advise other boat shoppers to look very hard in certain areas before buying
one.

If shopping for a trailerable cruiser within a certain weight range, I would
definitely buy a Hunter 19 again. It is a brilliant design, nothing else comes
remotely close. In nine years of cruising with a club of trailersailers, we
never saw any boat that was as quick & easy to rig, launch, & retrieve; never
saw anything remotely as comfortable, very few with anything approaching it's
sailing performance, and none with it's practical features like the transom
gate. Our boat was usually where the group gathered and usually the one
everybody else followed.

Of course, since you don't actually cruise, you have no apprecation for
practical values.

When are you going to answer Scotty's question about what trailerable boats of
comparable size & price to the old Mac26 sail better & have more room?

Fresh Breezes (to them wot can use 'em)- Doug King

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When are you going to answer Scotty's question about what trailerable boats of
comparable size & price to the old Mac26 sail better & have more room?

Didn't you catch John's post? There IS another boat that does all the Mac26X
and M and it's a better boat to boot.

RB
 
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