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otnmbrd February 23rd 04 07:19 PM

Navigation Question
 


DSK wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:

Did someone mention DECCA, and is it still in use?



Ah! Thanks for the memory jolt. I couldn't think of the name of it,
although I did come up with Omega from the murky depths. Omega has been
gone a while, I think the only Decca chain is still active in the North
Sea oil fields but is closing up shop in the near future.

DSK


I only used Omega a couple times in the distant past and don't remember
it as one of my favorites.
Loran A would fall into the "old" no longer used group. (just to mention
it).

otn


Jeff Morris February 23rd 04 07:28 PM

Navigation Question
 
Has anyone mentioned the various esoteric methods used by the Polynesians - such
as wave interference patterns, bird observations, deep ocean phosphorescence,
etc.?

And I wonder if anyone made use of compass dip for artic exploration?



"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...


DSK wrote:
otnmbrd wrote:

Did someone mention DECCA, and is it still in use?



Ah! Thanks for the memory jolt. I couldn't think of the name of it,
although I did come up with Omega from the murky depths. Omega has been
gone a while, I think the only Decca chain is still active in the North
Sea oil fields but is closing up shop in the near future.

DSK


I only used Omega a couple times in the distant past and don't remember
it as one of my favorites.
Loran A would fall into the "old" no longer used group. (just to mention
it).

otn




Thom Stewart February 23rd 04 07:50 PM

Navigation Question
 
Joe,

In the Northeast, some use "Dumbass Navigation" as practise by Jaxashby
but it really isn't any good. It's a Lie because all the markers are
LIES, nothing that matters is really true.

I guess you can't count that system because it's a LIE.

Ole Thom


katysails February 23rd 04 11:24 PM

Lifelines Part II
 
Jax, misunderstanding once again, quipped: Help, kates? Well, you can =
go on yet another diet.

You, Jax...help you. And I don't need to go on a diet.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails February 23rd 04 11:26 PM

Lifelines Part II
 
Jax said: Excelsior has had its own post office for something like 70 =
years.

So can I help the vagaries of the US Postal service? She lives on St. =
Alban's Bay, right around the corner from the place with the ferris =
wheel...Maybe the road there is the femarcation line? =20

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


JAXAshby February 23rd 04 11:40 PM

Navigation Question
 
dougies, until I posted you had never even heard of the term "Lunar Distances"
and now you are claiming to be an expert.

wanna show us just which "celestial navigation" course taught just where it is
that includes Lunar Distances as part of the corriculum?


JAXAshby wrote:

no, "celestial" as the term is used means to use an accurate timepiece.

Lunar
distances needs no timepiece at all, let alone an accurate one.


Sorry, Jax... wrong again. You should be proud of your perfect record.

"Celestial" navigation means to use "celestial" bodies. And the lunar
distance is a method of telling time, making the "celestial" bodies
themselves a timepiece. So you are doubly wrong. Your mom would be so proud!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King










JAXAshby February 23rd 04 11:43 PM

Navigation Question
 
guys, until yesterday you never even heard of Lunar Distances and today you are
all experts.

Yet, not one of you clowns can find a single course available in "celestial
navigation" that includes Lunar Distances. Not one.

JAXAshby wrote:
no, "celestial" as the term is used means to use an accurate timepiece.

Lunar
distances needs no timepiece at all, let alone an accurate one.


6. Lunar Distances


Sorry Mensa boy. Most would consider Lunar distances as celestial,
since the moon is a celistial body ya know. Same with a sun line, star
fix ect.

Joe


Sorry Jax, but "celestial" is "of the heavens; of the sky" by observing
the sun, moon, planets, stars. Lunar distances fall into this category,
and a timepiece is NOT the major sticking point.
Celestial navigation was around long before an accurate sea going
timepiece was invented.

otn










JAXAshby February 23rd 04 11:45 PM

Navigation Question
 
old fart, you slipped off the deep end.

Joe,

In the Northeast, some use "Dumbass Navigation" as practise by Jaxashby
but it really isn't any good. It's a Lie because all the markers are
LIES, nothing that matters is really true.

I guess you can't count that system because it's a LIE.

Ole Thom










felton February 24th 04 12:04 AM

Navigation Question
 
On 23 Feb 2004 23:40:39 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

dougies, until I posted you had never even heard of the term "Lunar Distances"
and now you are claiming to be an expert.

wanna show us just which "celestial navigation" course taught just where it is
that includes Lunar Distances as part of the corriculum?


"Practice with "lunars" is certainly an aerobatic flight in the world
of celestial navigation, but those who do it become the very best
celestial navigators, in part because very precise sights are requried
as well as careful analysis"

http://www.starpath.com/catalog/books/1875.htm

If you could navigate to the google page, you will find many of them:)


JAXAshby wrote:

no, "celestial" as the term is used means to use an accurate timepiece.

Lunar
distances needs no timepiece at all, let alone an accurate one.


Sorry, Jax... wrong again. You should be proud of your perfect record.

"Celestial" navigation means to use "celestial" bodies. And the lunar
distance is a method of telling time, making the "celestial" bodies
themselves a timepiece. So you are doubly wrong. Your mom would be so proud!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King










JAXAshby February 24th 04 12:14 AM

Lifelines Part II
 
here's a map for you kates, with Wayzata in the upper right corner and
Excelsior in the bottom and to the left. not sure why they would have a
Wayzata PO when Excelsior and Minnetonka and Deephaven and others are so much
closer, though Wayzata is a much snazzier address.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...0&addtohistory
=&address=&city=wayzata&state=mn&zipcode=&submit=G et+Map

Jax said: Excelsior has had its own post office for something like 70 =
years.

So can I help the vagaries of the US Postal service? She lives on St. =
Alban's Bay, right around the corner from the place with the ferris =
wheel...Maybe the road there is the femarcation line? =20

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein











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