Lifelines
 

The key word is "may."


That will be the word at your funeral, Jonathan.
"If the line had been maintained, he MAY have survived."
I'm not sure what you're attempting to preach here. Suggesting that lifelines
are not key gear is something Neal would say. Or maybe not.

RB

Lifelines
 

You are a putz, like the lately departed Neal pointed out constantly. I was
offshore last November, and you can prove you were offshore when? Just as I
thought. Typical AOLamer.Waves as high as the freeboard?
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" bleated balefully
...
That is where I learned it. Racko-Nos, are you suggesting that should you
happen someday to get offshore you might learn some other way to go
forward in
waves as high as the freeboard?

Lifelines
 

I have been up on the foredeck in 40+ knots of wind off Glen Cove, as well as
somewhere between Bermuda and Hatteras. I go up forward low and on my feet.

You've never been in "rough conditions."

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
So, when you go forward you crawl on your hands and knees?

In rough conditions I stay very low. One hand for me, one for the boat.

RB

Lifelines
 

Racko-Nos, you said "rough" conditions. On one occasion, waves as high as the
freeboard were reported by other crew on the boat I was on (heading offshore,
btw, after ducking into a port to let the Norther against the Gulf Stream pass)
as "six feet" and by another boat not 10 minutes behind us as "20 feet" (water
too shallow to support much above 6 foot waves)

You are a putz, like the lately departed Neal pointed out constantly. I was
offshore last November, and you can prove you were offshore when? Just as I
thought. Typical AOLamer.Waves as high as the freeboard?
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" bleated balefully
...
That is where I learned it. Racko-Nos, are you suggesting that should you
happen someday to get offshore you might learn some other way to go
forward in
waves as high as the freeboard?

Lifelines
 

You are a putz, like the lately departed Neal pointed out constantly. I was
offshore last November, and you can prove you were offshore when? Just as I
thought. Typical AOLamer.


John, instead of throwing rocks, why not just keep to the discussion at hand? I
have no idea if anyone here was offshore. Doesn't make a diff. I think the
lifeline issue as I've described it is obvious to anyone.
I don't see what AOL has to do with a discussion on safety.

RB

Lifelines
 

You need to read the posts more carefully. As high as the freeboard? I've
sailed in conditions like that on LAKE ERIE. Hint-how high is a typical
freeboard on a heeled sailboat of 30'-50' feet in LOA. So, the long and
short of it is, you agree that "lifelines" are an "important" safety feature
on sailboats. Another hint-when referring to wave height, waves are measured
from what two points?
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" keruffled
...
Racko-Nos, you said "rough" conditions. On one occasion, waves as high as
the
freeboard were reported by other crew on the boat I was on (heading
offshore,
btw, after ducking into a port to let the Norther against the Gulf Stream
pass)
as "six feet" and by another boat not 10 minutes behind us as "20 feet"
(water
too shallow to support much above 6 foot waves)

You are a putz, like the lately departed Neal pointed out constantly. I
was
offshore last November, and you can prove you were offshore when? Just as
I
thought. Typical AOLamer.Waves as high as the freeboard?
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" bleated balefully
...
That is where I learned it. Racko-Nos, are you suggesting that should
you
happen someday to get offshore you might learn some other way to go
forward in
waves as high as the freeboard?

Lifelines
 

Well, of course you're right, it has nothing to do with safety. So we'll
snip the AOLamer crack and the putz remark but we'll leave in the
bwahaahhahahahhahahah.I myself have a very good idea when more than one of
the regulars here was offshore. Bottom line, it is a serious mistake to rely
on lifelines to keep you on a sailboat, even in moderate conditions. If
lifelines were an important safety feature there wouldn't be such a thing as
jacklines.
John Cairns
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
John, instead of throwing rocks, why not just keep to the discussion at
hand? I
have no idea if anyone here was offshore. Doesn't make a diff. I think the
lifeline issue as I've described it is obvious to anyone.
I don't see what AOL has to do with a discussion on safety.

RB

Lifelines
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:36:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

That's stupid. The plastic protects the sails from chafe and the
hands from fishhooks. The downside is that rust can develop
beneath the plastic which shortens the life of the lines, but then
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grap of
last resort.

Rust? Mine are stainless steel, dumbass.





This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Lifelines
 

Racko-Nos, you are a little slow on the uptake. Unless, of course, you are
saying that *you* would walk forward on the deck of some boat you *might* be on
in the future with 4 foot waves around and *you* would NOT crouch down or hold
on to anything. Or, you are trying to say that *you* think anything less than
50 or 60 waves is of no concern to you. If so, you are a walking dead man just
looking for a boat to take you to your death.

You read way too many books and spend way too little time on sailboats,
Racko-Nos Pam. Way too many books.

btw Racko-Nos, I seldom wear a harness going forward (unless I need two hands
once I get forward and the waves are anything but mild) but I never fail to
have a solid handhold at all times.



You need to read the posts more carefully. As high as the freeboard? I've
sailed in conditions like that on LAKE ERIE. Hint-how high is a typical
freeboard on a heeled sailboat of 30'-50' feet in LOA. So, the long and
short of it is, you agree that "lifelines" are an "important" safety feature
on sailboats. Another hint-when referring to wave height, waves are measured
from what two points?
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" keruffled
...
Racko-Nos, you said "rough" conditions. On one occasion, waves as high as
the
freeboard were reported by other crew on the boat I was on (heading
offshore,
btw, after ducking into a port to let the Norther against the Gulf Stream
pass)
as "six feet" and by another boat not 10 minutes behind us as "20 feet"
(water
too shallow to support much above 6 foot waves)

You are a putz, like the lately departed Neal pointed out constantly. I
was
offshore last November, and you can prove you were offshore when? Just as
I
thought. Typical AOLamer.Waves as high as the freeboard?
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" bleated balefully
...
That is where I learned it. Racko-Nos, are you suggesting that should
you
happen someday to get offshore you might learn some other way to go
forward in
waves as high as the freeboard?

Lifelines
 

Racko-Nos, you missed the irony of the statement. I think _actual_ four-foot
waves would frighten you so much you could come back talking about seeing 20
foot waves.

As high as the freeboard?