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otnmbrd February 27th 04 11:26 PM

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff



BG Let the "Word Games" begin !!

otn


JAXAshby February 27th 04 11:36 PM

Lifelines
 
yeah, "heading". And our heading did not change when we got caught in the eddy
of the Gulf Stream. In fact, we would not have even noticed except that we
happened to be viewing gps's at that moment. Eerie.



My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in

the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of

the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the

wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from

190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the

sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,

until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We

were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT
























JAXAshby February 27th 04 11:37 PM

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our heading didn't change (as shown by the compass and the clouds in the sky),
just our course (as shown by the gps's).

The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the

direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in

the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of

the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*

to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the

sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,

until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We

were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT






























JAXAshby February 27th 04 11:40 PM

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St. Agustine, having passed Cape Hatteras.

Jax,

You were west of the Gulf stream following the 100 fathom mark and you
were about 100 miles Off Shore

Where were you heading for going that far off shore heading South?

Ole Thom










Donal February 28th 04 12:21 AM

Lifelines
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:55:20 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Hey Nutsy,

I've been known to crawl on the Fore Deck but I've found it to be much
better to slide on my ASS using my hands and HEELS.

Hands and knees kind of limits your visablity and balance

Any way you can keep yourself on board is the correct way.

Ole Thom


If you weren't a doddering, stumbling, drunk, you wouldn't have these
problems.


You appear to be the only poster here who doesn't know that OT doesn't
drink.

I wonder how it feels to be publicly humiliated. How does it feel to be the
only poster who is unaware that OT gave up alcohol some time ago?



Regards


Donal
--




Donal February 28th 04 12:26 AM

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the

direction
your bow is *headed*


WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--





Jonathan Ganz February 28th 04 12:48 AM

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The same kind as his brain... non-existent.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the

direction
your bow is *headed*


WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my

"bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--







JAXAshby February 28th 04 12:49 AM

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oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such. dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the

direction
your bow is *headed*


WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--













Thom Stewart February 28th 04 01:01 AM

Lifelines
 
Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom


Jeff Morris February 28th 04 01:09 AM

Lifelines
 
Hey Jaxie, maybe I should repost where you claimed that the variation was
meaningless because you never bothered to use it. Or the time you claimed "dip"
was a function of the compass, not of the Earth. How about when you insisted
that gyrocompasses are incapable of aligning automatically?

But my favorite is:
"a compass never has told you anything other than which way is North and so
never was worth much as a "navigation" tool."


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such. dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the

direction
your bow is *headed*


WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
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